Sheiko strikes again

[Perrin Aybara]

When i got off tren last time i initially took a hit to my strength for a week or two and then i started progressing again just on a cruise dose. Wasn't long before i surpassed where i was on the tren. I believe @theprodgicalson said he has a similar temporary strength loss when coming off tren.

Run some mast or proviron with it next time.

 

[ickyrica]

When i got off tren last time i initially took a hit to my strength for a week or two and then i started progressing again just on a cruise dose. Wasn't long before i surpassed where i was on the tren. I believe @theprodgicalson said he has a similar temporary strength loss when coming off tren.

Run some mast or proviron with it next time.

Your statement just saved me from falling apart here lol. I'm dedicated and will keep hitting it hard, will scale back to not hit failure.

I was amazingly unprepared for tren. I will nail it next time. I have mast Prop in surplus, will get proviron soon so I don't have to think about it later. I need more ancillary stuff anyway...

 

[Docd187123]

Competition bench
135*10
135*10
225*5
275*5
295 5*5 failed on 4th set, last rep.

Box squat
135*5
225*3
315*3
365*3 rpe8

Fatigue drop
315 4*3

Floor press
135*10
225*7

Rep drop
225*5
225*3 failed on 4th rep


I'm freaked out a bit. I have a noticeable drop in power since kicking the tren, almost to where I'm a little behind the point I was before I started the tren. Like I've lost a step.

I upped the Deca to 500mg a week when I quit tren, hoping that helps...

I'm also feeling like I'm hitting a wall quicker in the gym. I don't know if that's the bully yoga plan killing me or something else.

All in all I feel great though. No real pain or aches to worry about. My knees are good, hips are tight but good, back is great, arms are feeling good. Recovery is on point I think. Just a dip in power

I'm literally thinking about getting back on...

Like Perrin said, you shouldn't miss reps in training, especially when using RPE. If you do, you're underestimating your RPE. It could be bc of the tren or it could just be a bad day or two. The beauty of RPE is that it allows you to make adjustments to the intensity and volume for the day so you don't miss reps while still getting in an appropriate stressor to elicit adaptation and you're not boxed in with certain a weights and reps like other programs.

To loosen up your hips some, try hanging from a 200lb resistance hand choked off on a pull up bar or power rack. Put the band right around your hips and invert upside down.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I'm also feeling like I'm hitting a wall quicker in the gym. I don't know if that's the bully yoga plan killing me or something else.

Also, technically it's not Bully Yoga killing you because you're not running it correctly if you're failing reps and reaching RPEs too quickly. That's a surefire way to hit a wall and regress on any program.

I'm guilty of it myself at times. I freak about getting weaker and then push harder, which ends up setting me back further by missing out on volume and too many grindy reps. Don't fall into the trap.

 

[theprodgicalson]

as @Perrin Aybara said. i do notice a dip in strength after coming off. that mostly could be because the last two times i used tren i was peaking for a meet. and there will be a small drop off from that also. learn from our expeince, do not fail reps in training. erase your mind about failing reps and pay attention to what your body is telling you that day, during that lift. fuck the weight. some days you will feel off. dont over exert on those days.

and to further compound on what @Docd187123 is suggesting, and POB will suggest too...
i give you a video from the man, the myth, the messiah....Super D!


do this damn near every session. when i forget to do it, i notice a difference for sure. only takes me about 5 minutes, but helps out a shit ton

 

[ickyrica]

Guys, I can't thank you enough. I do have a lot of old bad habits that need to break, and they will.

 

[MindlessWork]

Guys, I can't thank you enough. I do have a lot of old bad habits that need to break, and they will.

Old bad habits die hard lol

 

[Perrin Aybara]

You're gonna be all good.

 

[theprodgicalson]

Guys, I can't thank you enough. I do have a lot of old bad habits that need to break, and they will.

as perrin said, youre going to be fine dude. stressing out over it is the worst thing you could do.

as i believe i mentioned earlier, better to be a touch under RPE than over in my experience. especially early on in the training cycle

 

[Perrin Aybara]

as perrin said, youre going to be fine dude. stressing out over it is the worst thing you could do.

as i believe i mentioned earlier, better to be a touch under RPE than over in my experience. especially early on in the training cycle

Definitely better being a touch under as hard as that is to do sometimes.

 

[theprodgicalson]

Definitely better being a touch under as hard as that is to do sometimes.

very hard to do at times. but the way i think about it is playing long ball. all of the good volume leading into a peak will make my peak that much more substatial. its partially why i choose to go with % based for right now. with life being as busy as it is at the moment, i just want to go in a lift and know what im lifting.

 

[23inch]

Old bad habits die hard lol

I see what you did there.... Ctpump.

 

[ickyrica]

I see what you did there.... Ctpump.

Please leave my thread.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

very hard to do at times. but the way i think about it is playing long ball. all of the good volume leading into a peak will make my peak that much more substatial. its partially why i choose to go with % based for right now. with life being as busy as it is at the moment, i just want to go in a lift and know what im lifting.

I do miss that about Sheiko and 5/3/1. Going in and just running the numbers. Left to my own devices with RPE I'll often push too hard in the name of constant progress.

 

[Docd187123]

I see what you did there.... Ctpump.

Whatever beef you have with him, indulge in it elsewhere. Don't bring negativity into another man's log.

 

[ickyrica]

Whatever beef you have with him, indulge in it elsewhere. Don't bring negativity into another man's log.

Exactly, place and time folks

 

[23inch]

Whatever beef you have with him, indulge in it elsewhere. Don't bring negativity into another man's log.

You see, that's the easy part. While the moron's everywhere, any thread can be turned against him.

 

[ickyrica]

You see, that's the easy part. While the moron's everywhere, any thread can be turned against him.

You do know he has his own thread and other threads are available for the back and forth bull shit, right?

 

[Docd187123]

You see, that's the easy part. While the moron's everywhere, any thread can be turned against him.

Amazing! So you can "easily" leave the bullshit out of this thread from now on.

 

[Gobuckeyes0122]

When i got off tren last time i initially took a hit to my strength for a week or two and then i started progressing again just on a cruise dose. Wasn't long before i surpassed where i was on the tren. I believe @theprodgicalson said he has a similar temporary strength loss when coming off tren.

Run some mast or proviron with it next time.

My tren run ends in 3 1/2 weeks. I'm actually looking forward to cruising for awhile but I am nervous that my strength will take a hit. It's good to see that you can bounce back quick from it.