Oh No ! Not phoney euro amps again !
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Oh No ! Not phoney euro amps again !
No I think he got confused about the anonymous buyer and not knowing what would be purchased and tested. As far as I know you and mythotec were the only ones involved with the testing. I remember seeing someone from I think Evo saying they would test but I never followed up on itHe is referring to a different test/member. Supposedly one that ordered anonymously and was going to test the amps.
@Custom I don't remember seeing that happen. Did I miss it?
I do think GrAnbolic does have some legit gear but it is mixed in with some fake (not bunk) gear. I don't think he was or is educated in the field of aas not that I know everything but you need to know what you are selling. I only answered emails that he would forward to me when he didn't have the answer to the question being asked. I truly believe if he knew about the products he was selling he would be a good source to go to. I firmly believe that he believes that the Norma amps are real and that may be the problem here. I have never seen any bloodwork done by anyone. If you are going to do bloods on this gear you should run it 6 weeks not 3 that you claimed you want to do.Custom, I appreciate that info. It all makes much more sense now because I knew you were once working for granabolic (I actually thought you were the main guy answering my emails at one point). It says a lot about you that you have come clean with some of this stuff.
Sounds like granabolic will sell legit gear, but also has no problem selling stuff he KNOWS is bunk too, unfortunately. Or at the very least, doesn't bother to check too hard to see if it's counterfeit. I also feel a lot of sources probably do this.
Not sure what you're saying about Colt44 and GrAnabolic not knowing who it was sending Norma amps to and that somehow having some impact on if he got legit amps or not? What exactly do you mean there, not sure I'm getting you? He would have got real stuff had granabolic known it was a well known board member?
*** Is there any chance at all I myself (or anyone) received real, legitimate Norma amps from GrAnabolic around that time? ***
Interesting that you believe the same source is behind TexxGears and GRanabolic. This explains TexxGears having these same exact amps and lot numbers too I suppose.
I do think GrAnbolic does have some legit gear but it is mixed in with some fake (not bunk) gear. I don't think he was or is educated in the field of aas not that I know everything but you need to know what you are selling. I only answered emails that he would forward to me when he didn't have the answer to the question being asked. I truly believe if he knew about the products he was selling he would be a good source to go to. I firmly believe that he believes that the Norma amps are real and that may be the problem here. I have never seen any bloodwork done by anyone. If you are going to do bloods on this gear you should run it 6 weeks not 3 that you claimed you want to do.
*** Is there any chance at all I myself (or anyone) received real, legitimate Norma amps from GrAnabolic around that time? ***
I think it's absolutely possible. I probably have some good ones. No way of knowing really though.
For the record, the amps I received and tested did not come in the original boxes. I believe I received those after the LM and MS results were being argued.
Do you think the later ones in boxes and with holograms were real? The photos you posted of amps, which were those, because those "look" legit like mine.
This is the conclusion that I've come to. I think there are good fakes and bad fakes out there and the reasoning is this, The only people coming on saying they are legit are people who visited Greece or live there and "say" they can walk into any pharmacy and buy them. So my question is why only Greece? Why is there no website? If they are that good why not sold in pharmacies around other parts of the world?The amps and packaging (UV stickers and all, as Colt44 pointed out on his order) are elaborate and well done. Fake normas are usually easy to spot as my pics in first post indicate, but these were not. However, I have no reason to doubt Colt44 and the two MS tests done on this lot # from GrAnabolic. Other people around the forums seem to agree they are not real as well. Custom, your info further reinforces that. You know he was at least selling some counterfeit normas. I was just pointing out that if you go by look only, it's hard to say they're fake. I will probably just trash these as I'm pretty satisfied and convinced now after hearing more. Appreciate your guys info.
Custom: Don't you agree I most likely got bunk stuff like Colt44? I reviewed my old pm outbox on ProM. It was you I spoke with about the order! Lol.
If the ones shipped later in the boxes aren't legit, he needs to find another line of work.
The pics in that thread are from the original order.
Colt did you ever test any that came with the boxes, I can't remember.If the ones shipped later in the boxes aren't legit, he needs to find another line of work.
The pics in that thread are from the original order.
Colt did you ever test any that came with the boxes, I can't remember.
Didn't you say one test came back with traces of tren in it?
I don't know much about powdering companies nor do I know much about what compounds are sold in pharmacies so this more of a question than statement: Do pharmacies carry Tren? If not why would it be in the powdering company that I would think only supplies legit companies.According to the other thread, the second MS (Dr Jim) revealed 4% test with traces of Tren E (probably cross contamination at the powder compounding company). Unless I'm recalling it wrong.
Colt did you ever test any that came with the boxes, I can't remember.
Didn't you say one test came back with traces of tren in it?
I don't know much about powdering companies nor do I know much about what compounds are sold in pharmacies so this more of a question than statement: Do pharmacies carry Tren? If not why would it be in the powdering company that I would think only supplies legit companies.
I'm more curious about the amps Colt44 got in packaging with holograms and stuff because I got those same ones. Running basically GSO for 6 weeks to get bloods and see if these are legit isn't that appealing. I assume they are the same as the others, but damn they are spot in replicas.
Wow. There just fucking dudes up.
4% test? Thats horrible.