Stanford Pharma aka SP = Meso Member Xkawn

[Brawny]

Doubtful but Raper would've been able to make it a rough ride vetting the reopen.

We all know that would never have worked. In the short time Sym was here, he still has a small pocket of followers that think he’s going to come back and make everything right.

Stanford is being backed by veterans, who were supposed to uphold a certain culture within MESO. You think that anyone would listen? While a source with an OPSEC risk slowly took more orders, added customer information to his private list?

He brought all this information public while Stanford wasn’t actively sourcing. If he’s as good a source as some of the veterans believe, then they shouldn’t have any concerns about him still having customer information, right?

 

[Sp2.0]

We all know that would never have worked. In the short time Sym was here, he still has a small pocket of followers that think he’s going to come back and make everything right.

Stanford is being backed by veterans, who were supposed to uphold a certain culture within MESO. You think that anyone would listen? While a source with an OPSEC risk slowly took more orders, added customer information to his private list?

He brought all this information public while Stanford wasn’t actively sourcing. If he’s as good a source as some of the veterans believe, then they shouldn’t have any concerns about him still having customer information, right?

I disagree. Most of the vets that escorted him in aren't around anymore and a couple were proven shady to put it nicely. If the vetting started even though I'm not the sharpest tack in the droor I would've helped and without speaking for them I believe mighty mouse and bbg and the others would've got involved. Whether the vets believe he's the second coming or not doesn't mean they deserve to be put in harms way.

 

[BigShadow]

No issues brother I just threw that out there figuring youd like the read if you ever felt inclined to go back and read just how shady shit can get behind the scenes.

Dude shit has been shady around here for years lol. Does anyone remember Manwhore? [emoji1787] saw someone posted about bio but does anyone remember MLG? Fuck I feel old

 

[Rapier]

In regards to me being a source past present or future or for those who question if I wanted to "gain"-

Why didn't I just email SP/Xkawn (SPawn?)
And offer to sell him my silence? I could have made a buck and then posted this against my word, effectively lining my greedy pocket and burning him at the same time.

Maybe fuck sources and brew your own shit? They're all a bunch of underhanded lowlife fucks. Why trust even one?

In the end, who cares WHY I posted it? It is confirmed 100% true by Mands and pics for proof. You would rather not know you were lied to, misled, and had a "wkm" posing as a brewer when in reality he was a source. Ok then. My bad.

 

[mands]

Not sure if you haven't caught up on stan's thread but he did indeed say he is gearing up to come back in the next couple weeks.

I haven't been in his thread to check anything out. I haven't visited his thread even after all of this started.

So what you are saying he ought to have had it stickied by deepthroating Scally too?

Now I'm getting really confused which side you at over here

Of course you are getting confused. Your relocation and memory for situations are off as usual. @Millard Baker made that thread about you lying about testing and giving me false numbers on the GH I sent you for testing numb-nuts. Not @Michael Scally MD.

If you are calling people out, you should have the balls to tag them.

Here is your condensed easy to read list of harm reduction points you and your saviors welcomed in and continued to let happen:

This is who/what your "VETS" that knew Xkawn was SP allowed into meso. All pics are posted to confirm every single one of these. After he was let in, this continued until xkawn's last post not too long ago.

Vetting by the vets. Behind the scenes, lead to:


1. No public vetting on his entrance
No equipment pics or processes made public.
2. Had less than a year experience with large batches. Only sealed vials/ syringe filters, had no idea how to sterilize glass or stoppers.
3. Rode in on a wave of shills you will recognize as all friends of xkawn including Wedo, Torro, Ryno, Bickel, Penche
4. Weed/guns - gets pulled over with either and a search warrant of his home/phone reveals what?
5. Personal info revealed as member = customers ar risk
6. Uses PPL for raws/semi-finished oil
PPL = security risk
7. Sources limited to 1 thread rule. broken
8. Posting in other source threads using his member handle
9. Shills for panda and shits on Dyna
10. Cannot remember when he first started brewing (2001,2002,2006,2007 shown)
11. Has "medical" issues causing frequent bouts of delays and that is tolerated, why?
12. Posts in his own/other source threads with his member handle. Once a source no longer a member right?
13. Posts about using unpreferred math for orals (does not use mighty mouse math) he just subtracts active from filler, mixes and caps.
14. Uses dry heat to sterilize glass. (No autoclave)
15. Had shills lab maxing and talking him up even before his debut
16. Is ok with using non sterile filters as a source.
17. Does not know basic math, spelling, grammar
18. Encourages posting of bloods from private sources before debuting as a private source.
19. Posts for "vets" to point others toward a source
20. Posts in a complaint thread along side shills addressing the complaint...on his gear he sold as a source
21. Posts about not being able to cap at or below 1mg (decades long professional?)
22. Posts about getting weed from other forum members.
23. Posts as a member to get other members to recommend equipment/procedures
24. Does not know what DHB is Oct 2017
25. Asks members how to turn btc into cash Nov 2017

I thought you were done with all your handles and leaving?

Yes, Stanford has stated in his most recent thread that he will be returning in a few weeks. He’s already been sending samples to Jano, with plans to add members to the new “private” list.

So yes, all of this information was brought to light prior to him receiving new customer information in the upcoming weeks.

Even if it was brought to attention there was a better way IMO.

In regards to me being a source past present or future or for those who question if I wanted to "gain"-

Why didn't I just email SP/Xkawn (SPawn?)
And offer to sell him my silence? I could have made a buck and then posted this against my word, effectively lining my greedy pocket and burning him at the same time.

Maybe fuck sources and brew your own shit? They're all a bunch of underhanded lowlife fucks. Why trust even one?

In the end, who cares WHY I posted it? It is confirmed 100% true by Mands and pics for proof. You would rather not know you were lied to, misled, and had a "wkm" posing as a brewer when in reality he was a source. Ok then. My bad.

Who said to email Stan and asked him? You are being ridiculous at this point.

You posted it under an alternate handle which makes you a pussy and your posting it for your own personal hurt.

Why not post in his thread and ask why he wasn't vetted, had multiple threads or all the other list of items you thought you knew? Why not bring to everyone's attention you were researching and had founds some issues?

Instead you came out posted all this because you were so concerned about the members safety?

Give me a break. It's like arguing with a Liberal why it's not a good idea to de-fund police. smh.

mands

 

[bigpoppachump2]

In regards to me being a source past present or future or for those who question if I wanted to "gain"-

Why didn't I just email SP/Xkawn (SPawn?)
And offer to sell him my silence? I could have made a buck and then posted this against my word, effectively lining my greedy pocket and burning him at the same time.

Maybe fuck sources and brew your own shit? They're all a bunch of underhanded lowlife fucks. Why trust even one?

In the end, who cares WHY I posted it? It is confirmed 100% true by Mands and pics for proof. You would rather not know you were lied to, misled, and had a "wkm" posing as a brewer when in reality he was a source. Ok then. My bad.

Still dont get it? Cause hes got mine and hundreds of other rpeoples info on his hard drives!! Yeah I would have liked to know but the way you did it is fucked and you know it so quit playing naive asshole.

 

[Rapier]

I haven't been in his thread to check anything out. I haven't visited his thread even after all of this started.

Of course you are getting confused. Your relocation and memory for situations are off as usual. @Millard Baker made that thread about you lying about testing and giving me false numbers on the GH I sent you for testing numb-nuts. Not @Michael Scally MD.

If you are calling people out, you should have the balls to tag them.


I thought you were done with all your handles and leaving?
Even if it was brought to attention there was a better way IMO.

You posted it under an alternate handle which makes you a pussy and your posting it for your own personal hurt.

Why not post in his thread and ask why he wasn't vetted, had multiple threads or all the other list of items you thought you knew? Why not bring to everyone's attention you were researching and had founds some issues?

Instead you came out posted all this because you were so concerned about the members safety?

Give me a break. It's like arguing with a Liberal why it's not a good idea to de-fund police. smh.

mands

Since we are down to throwing out personal attacks:

You fucking near illiterate mouth breather:
It's "you're posting" not "your posting".

Earlier you said "ends and outs". It's "ins and outs".

Hopefully you're at least pretty, because like SP, basic knowledge is something you sure as fuck don't have.

We already covered my reason for the alt handle. OPSEC. MB himself suggests and encourages making alt handles to blast sources. Even if that source was part of your buddy network. Untwist *your* man panties, Mands.

Oh. One more thing.

In case all those hard words had you skip to the bottom:

TL;DR

*you're stupid*
*OPSEC*

 

[muscletrain]

Still dont get it? Cause hes got mine and hundreds of other rpeoples info on his hard drives!! Yeah I would have liked to know but the way you did it is fucked and you know it so quit playing naive asshole.

Tell your dumb fuck source to not store all his customers info on his hard drive then? Or don't order from someone who has shitty opsec. Hard drive should be atleast Full-Disk Encrypted so it can't even boot without a password if there's a fucking roladex of customer info.

Obviously this shines a light on Stanford and it may have been malicious but the bigger issue isn't the "rat" or guy who posted it all, it's the fact that your source has so many holes in his operation/bread crumbs laying around that he would sink like the titanic at any sort of cursory glance anyways from LE.

 

[Rapier]

Still dont get it? Cause hes got mine and hundreds of other rpeoples info on his hard drives!! Yeah I would have liked to know but the way you did it is fucked and you know it so quit playing naive asshole.

Find a source that doesn't keep records of transactions then, genius. Cry me another river. Plus side? Maybe now he will delete your shit since he sees you care?

 

[mands]

Since we are down to throwing out personal attacks:

You fucking near illiterate mouth breather:
It's "you're posting" not "your posting".

Earlier you said "ends and outs". It's "ins and outs".

Hopefully you're at least pretty, because like SP, basic knowledge is something you sure as fuck don't have.

We already covered my reason for the alt handle. OPSEC. MB himself suggests and encourages making alt handles to blast sources. Even if that source was part of your buddy network. Untwist *your* man panties, Mands.

Oh. One more thing.

In case all those hard words had you skip to the bottom:

TL;DR

*you're stupid*
*OPSEC*

I apologize for typing quickly on my phone and not really paying attention to my grammar. I will try and slow it down so you don't get upset.

Well thanks for the post and letting me know who you are. I still believe you went about this all wrong. I will be honest. I don't ever remembering reading the OPSEC stating that alternate handles should be used to blast sources.

Can you point me in the right direction?

mands

 

[Sp2.0]

Tell your dumb fuck source to not store all his customers info on his hard drive then? Or don't order from someone who has shitty opsec. Hard drive should be atleast Full-Disk Encrypted so it can't even boot without a password if there's a fucking roladex of customer info.

Obviously this shines a light on Stanford and it may have been malicious but the bigger issue isn't the "rat" or guy who posted it all, it's the fact that your source has so many holes in his operation/bread crumbs laying around that he would sink like the titanic at any sort of cursory glance anyways from LE.

Solid points but I actually laughed out loud picturing the roladex. I'm old enough to remember when they were common.

Sorry to side track but I found it funny.

 

[bigpoppachump2]

Tell your dumb fuck source to not store all his customers info on his hard drive then? Or don't order from someone who has shitty opsec. Hard drive should be atleast Full-Disk Encrypted so it can't even boot without a password if there's a fucking roladex of customer info.

Obviously this shines a light on Stanford and it may have been malicious but the bigger issue isn't the "rat" or guy who posted it all, it's the fact that your source has so many holes in his operation/bread crumbs laying around that he would sink like the titanic at any sort of cursory glance anyways from LE.

Find a source that doesn't keep records of transactions then, genius. Cry me another river. Plus side? Maybe now he will delete your shit since he sees you care?

Must not have been as easy as yall keep saying it was the guys been sourcing for well over 4 years and not one issue with LE that I'm aware of but again thanks for making it easy and putting people like me at risk.

You can both kindly go first fuck each other now

 

[bigpoppachump2]

And I never said I dont think the info shared wasnt pertinent but I dont understand why you think it was ok to put it on blast so publicly knowing he has a lot of people's freedoms at stake with what info he may still have.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

And I never said I dont think the info shared wasnt pertinent but I dont understand why you think it was ok to put it on blast so publicly knowing he has a lot of people's freedoms at stake with what info he may still have.

All the sources that have gone away/been busted and I don’t ever recall a customer being apprehended after the source...

If I’m mistaken, please let me know.

Understand your concern...but if he gets caught by LE it really doesn’t matter whether it’s by someone “exposing” a handle here or by his own fuck-up...if you’re a customer and you’re not where the “investigation” starts then...

 

[MindlessWork]

Solid points but I actually laughed out loud picturing the roladex. I'm old enough to remember when they were common.

Sorry to side track but I found it funny.

The old rolodexes were pretty damn useful back in the day just like the rotary phones

And I'm just as old if not older!

 

[WeMadeItToAndromeda]

I apologize for typing quickly on my phone and not really paying attention to my grammar. I will try and slow it down so you don't get upset.

Well thanks for the post and letting me know who you are. I still believe you went about this all wrong. I will be honest. I don't ever remembering reading the OPSEC stating that alternate handles should be used to blast sources.

Can you point me in the right direction?

mands

I don't have a horse in this race, just been following along but I remembered where I read Millard encouraging alt handles for members calling out sources so I figured I'd post it for you. It was in the TGI thread when shit hit the fan and he left Meso.

Titanium Gear Industries (domestic source)

 

[mands]

I don't have a horse in this race, just been following along but I remembered where I read Millard encouraging alt handles for members calling out sources so I figured I'd post it for you. It was in the TGI thread when shit hit the fan and he left Meso.

Titanium Gear Industries (domestic source)

Thanks I've never read that or if I did I don't remember. I appreciate the find.

@Rapier I am man enough to apologize when I was wrong about the multiple handle thing and calling you a pussy for creating one to oust a source.

I do still believe IMO it should of been handled differently but I take back the pussy statement. Not that it really matters to you at this point

mands

 

[bigpoppachump2]

Thanks I've never read that or if I did I don't remember. I appreciate the find.

@Rapier I am man enough to apologize when I was wrong about the multiple handle thing and calling you a pussy for creating one to oust a source.

I do still believe IMO it should of been handled differently but I take back the pussy statement. Not that it really matters to you at this point

mands

I'm done with it. Whatever will happen will not be altered by how much I call rapier a bitch and all that. I still feel that way and I'm not taking anything back but it does me no good now to keep attacking him.

I've been contemplating riding off into the sunset and asking Millard to delete my profile and it might just be time to do that. It has more to do with my personal life shifting towards different priorities than it had to do with this incident but maybe it's just time to do it.

 

[lifter6973]

Well this thread just got boring. Looks like everyone will hug it out in the end. Fuck, I just made a huge batch of popcorn too.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Imagine that. Civil discussions and apologies for those that weren’t. Who wants a pee pee touch?