Stanford Pharma aka SP = Meso Member Xkawn

Source has been open for year(s), right?

...I guess I don’t see it the same way. All that would’ve accomplished in my eyes is more orders being placed with a possible OPSEC issue at hand. As @BigBaldBeardGuy said, ticking timebomb and as dumb as this thread seems, feel we’re placing superficial blame.

The fact that he's been open for years is what made the outing more risky to his customers. We just don't agree on it and that's cool. Like I said it's kind of a fucked situation overall.
 
I guess I’m hung up on watching MLI (admittedly no fucks given in hiding who he was) get YEETed in days for essentially the same thing but here were contemplating the safety of members in a source identity being covered for a substantial amount of time when it was known and available to the public if anyone dug.

I’m not new but certainly not “seasoned” here. Maybe I’m just missing subtle shit that draws the line you’re talking about.

Mli dropped the ball by not cover his handle on test results and at the time he had no meso customers so no members could be hurt. He did the right thing by pulling the plug.

Sp not the same because he's established the info puts members at risk. Just my take on it
 
Mli dropped the ball by not cover his handle on test results and at the time he had no meso customers so no members could be hurt. He did the right thing by pulling the plug.

Sp not the same because he's established the info puts members at risk. Just my take on it
If Rapier didn’t do this would anyone in the know have shut down the SP reopen?

schrodingers cat? Lol.
 
Doubtful but Raper would've been able to make it a rough ride vetting the reopen.

So hypothetically reveal piece by piece as part of “vetting”?

And the nuthuggers that anxiously already lined up to be on the new private list (a bunch are probably still standing in line over there) wouldn’t shrug off the posts? So Rapier would have ended up revealing everything that he did in this thread anyway. - just being realistic.
 
So hypothetically reveal piece by piece as part of “vetting”?

And the nuthuggers that anxiously already lined up to be on the new private list (a bunch are probably still standing in line over there) wouldn’t shrug off the posts? So Rapier would have ended up revealing everything that he did in this thread anyway. - just being realistic.

How funny would be if this brewer turned out to be a "well-known" member?!?! Just thinking a loud :)

He's good at what he does. He knew all along. Not sure why he waited so long to drop the bomb though.

So... Are we gonna burn down Stans threads or what? i gotta go to work soon, but i'll bring my torch with me just in case.
 
At the end of the day, he did choose to disclose this information at a time when Stanford isn’t accepting orders.
So, if Stan is closed how is the OP's post helping out with harm reduction at this time and why would it even be brought up? Is Stan coming back?

This thread was started for personal reasons not harm reduction.

mands
 
I remember inquiring about a price list from a well-known lab on here and I ended up getting a monthly e-mail sent from them... which is strange since they should have lost my e-mail when they "deleted" it.

I suspect that deleting e-mails isn't as commonplace as people would like to think.

Never thought of this, they never state they are removing customer data after each order afaik but I know for a fact two of the biggest CAD labs are sending out monthly lists.
 
So, if Stan is closed how is the OP's post helping out with harm reduction at this time and why would it even be brought up? Is Stan coming back?

This thread was started for personal reasons not harm reduction.

mands

Not sure if you haven't caught up on stan's thread but he did indeed say he is gearing up to come back in the next couple weeks.
 
He's good at what he does. He knew all along. Not sure why he waited so long to drop the bomb though.

So... Are we gonna burn down Stans threads or what? i gotta go to work soon, but i'll bring my torch with me just in case.
It was pretty well known back then. At least with people I spoke too...most of which are long gone. But the confidence people had in his brewing skills is what prompted most to order...including me.
 
So hypothetically reveal piece by piece as part of “vetting”?

And the nuthuggers that anxiously already lined up to be on the new private list (a bunch are probably still standing in line over there) wouldn’t shrug off the posts? So Rapier would have ended up revealing everything that he did in this thread anyway. - just being realistic.

Like I said earlier if it's a choice of releasing anything that puts members at risk it's better not to. If he could dispute things in vetting with what he knew piece by piece or whatever safely thats what shouldve been done.

To the huggers waiting in line it wouldn't matter, I have no doubt sym would be welcomed back by some huggers with the right amount of crocodile tears.

We just look at what's best for member safety differently on this one.
 
So, if Stan is closed how is the OP's post helping out with harm reduction at this time and why would it even be brought up? Is Stan coming back?

This thread was started for personal reasons not harm reduction.

mands


Here is your condensed easy to read list of harm reduction points you and your saviors welcomed in and continued to let happen:

This is who/what your "VETS" that knew Xkawn was SP allowed into meso. All pics are posted to confirm every single one of these. After he was let in, this continued until xkawn's last post not too long ago.

Vetting by the vets. Behind the scenes, lead to:


1. No public vetting on his entrance
No equipment pics or processes made public.
2. Had less than a year experience with large batches. Only sealed vials/ syringe filters, had no idea how to sterilize glass or stoppers.
3. Rode in on a wave of shills you will recognize as all friends of xkawn including Wedo, Torro, Ryno, Bickel, Penche
4. Weed/guns - gets pulled over with either and a search warrant of his home/phone reveals what?
5. Personal info revealed as member = customers ar risk
6. Uses PPL for raws/semi-finished oil
PPL = security risk
7. Sources limited to 1 thread rule. broken
8. Posting in other source threads using his member handle
9. Shills for panda and shits on Dyna
10. Cannot remember when he first started brewing (2001,2002,2006,2007 shown)
11. Has "medical" issues causing frequent bouts of delays and that is tolerated, why?
12. Posts in his own/other source threads with his member handle. Once a source no longer a member right?
13. Posts about using unpreferred math for orals (does not use mighty mouse math) he just subtracts active from filler, mixes and caps.
14. Uses dry heat to sterilize glass. (No autoclave)
15. Had shills lab maxing and talking him up even before his debut
16. Is ok with using non sterile filters as a source.
17. Does not know basic math, spelling, grammar
18. Encourages posting of bloods from private sources before debuting as a private source.
19. Posts for "vets" to point others toward a source
20. Posts in a complaint thread along side shills addressing the complaint...on his gear he sold as a source
21. Posts about not being able to cap at or below 1mg (decades long professional?)
22. Posts about getting weed from other forum members.
23. Posts as a member to get other members to recommend equipment/procedures
24. Does not know what DHB is Oct 2017
25. Asks members how to turn btc into cash Nov 2017
 
So, if Stan is closed how is the OP's post helping out with harm reduction at this time and why would it even be brought up? Is Stan coming back?

This thread was started for personal reasons not harm reduction.

mands

Yes, Stanford has stated in his most recent thread that he will be returning in a few weeks. He’s already been sending samples to Jano, with plans to add members to the new “private” list.

So yes, all of this information was brought to light prior to him receiving new customer information in the upcoming weeks.
 
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