Stanford Pharma aka SP = Meso Member Xkawn

I'm done with it. Whatever will happen will not be altered by how much I call rapier a bitch and all that. I still feel that way and I'm not taking anything back but it does me no good now to keep attacking him.

I've been contemplating riding off into the sunset and asking Millard to delete my profile and it might just be time to do that. It has more to do with my personal life shifting towards different priorities than it had to do with this incident but maybe it's just time to do it.
I understand you concerns but I don't have those concerns as he doesn't have any personal information of mine.

I do empathize with you and others if this goes South. As I've stated before I came into this because of personal information that was being shared.

Stick around man. Just take some time off and clear your head. I've had to do it at times but always come back. MESO is home and it's a good board. It's not perfect but haven't found one better in the end.

For the record, I believe once you have a profile on MESO you always have a profile. I could be wrong but I don't think he will delete it.

mands
 
I understand you concerns but I don't have those concerns as he doesn't have any personal information of mine.

I do empathize with you and others if this goes South. As I've stated before I came into this because of personal information that was being shared.

Stick around man. Just take some time off and clear your head. I've had to do it at times but always come back. MESO is home and it's a good board. It's not perfect but haven't found one better in the end.

For the record, I believe once you have a profile on MESO you always have a profile. I could be wrong but I don't think he will delete it.

mands
This is true. I think he will only delete it if it is a security risk to your identity and or freedom
 
Well this thread just got boring. Looks like everyone will hug it out in the end. Fuck, I just made a huge batch of popcorn too.
Trust me when I say this that hugging it out is the last thing I wanna do but there really isn't anything left to be said from my end of the deal. It doesnt sit well with me that all that shit is now in the wind waiting to get picked up but there isn't a damn thing I can do to reverse it now.
 
Trust me when I say this that hugging it out is the last thing I wanna do but there really isn't anything left to be said from my end of the deal. It doesnt sit well with me that all that shit is now in the wind waiting to get picked up but there isn't a damn thing I can do to reverse it now.

If it makes you feel any better I'm sure 90% of the shit labs floating around do absolutely nothing for data privacy, it's rare that you run into someone who actually has jack shit for your info after the order is complete because he follows proper procedures.
 
This is true. I think he will only delete it if it is a security risk to your identity and or freedom

Unless there is something you’re not telling us, I really doubt LE could care less about you as a purchaser. Unless you’re a bigger fish than we all realize :confused:

Unless you stick out among the thousands of people who have ordered from him over the years, unless he’s NEVER deleted his emails, and unless you’re more involved than you’re saying, then I doubt you have anything to worry over.

A source could go down at any time. And I’ve never heard of an instance where they went down the ladder afterward. Sad to say, but they usually follow the money and that’s probably because of taxes
 
Unless there is something you’re not telling us, I really doubt LE could care less about you as a purchaser. Unless you’re a bigger fish than we all realize :confused:

Unless you stick out among the thousands of people who have ordered from him over the years, unless he’s NEVER deleted his emails, and unless you’re more involved than you’re saying, then I doubt you have anything to worry over.

A source could go down at any time. And I’ve never heard of an instance where they went down the ladder afterward. Sad to say, but they usually follow the money and that’s probably because of taxes
I totally agree with your last statement. Sources getting too big and making too much money without paying taxes draws attention. It is the second biggest reason for getting popped IMO. First is getting involved with rec drugs.
 
Unless there is something you’re not telling us, I really doubt LE could care less about you as a purchaser. Unless you’re a bigger fish than we all realize :confused:

Unless you stick out among the thousands of people who have ordered from him over the years, unless he’s NEVER deleted his emails, and unless you’re more involved than you’re saying, then I doubt you have anything to worry over.

A source could go down at any time. And I’ve never heard of an instance where they went down the ladder afterward. Sad to say, but they usually follow the money and that’s probably because of taxes
Trust me, I'm far from a big fish. But I live in a area where even the littlest fishy will make big noise in the local paper. Just someone who enjoyed the lifestyle and all the ins and outs involved with it.
 
Here is your condensed easy to read list of harm reduction points you and your saviors welcomed in and continued to let happen:

This is who/what your "VETS" that knew Xkawn was SP allowed into meso. All pics are posted to confirm every single one of these. After he was let in, this continued until xkawn's last post not too long ago.

Vetting by the vets. Behind the scenes, lead to:


1. No public vetting on his entrance
No equipment pics or processes made public.
2. Had less than a year experience with large batches. Only sealed vials/ syringe filters, had no idea how to sterilize glass or stoppers.
3. Rode in on a wave of shills you will recognize as all friends of xkawn including Wedo, Torro, Ryno, Bickel, Penche
4. Weed/guns - gets pulled over with either and a search warrant of his home/phone reveals what?
5. Personal info revealed as member = customers ar risk
6. Uses PPL for raws/semi-finished oil
PPL = security risk
7. Sources limited to 1 thread rule. broken
8. Posting in other source threads using his member handle
9. Shills for panda and shits on Dyna
10. Cannot remember when he first started brewing (2001,2002,2006,2007 shown)
11. Has "medical" issues causing frequent bouts of delays and that is tolerated, why?
12. Posts in his own/other source threads with his member handle. Once a source no longer a member right?
13. Posts about using unpreferred math for orals (does not use mighty mouse math) he just subtracts active from filler, mixes and caps.
14. Uses dry heat to sterilize glass. (No autoclave)
15. Had shills lab maxing and talking him up even before his debut
16. Is ok with using non sterile filters as a source.
17. Does not know basic math, spelling, grammar
18. Encourages posting of bloods from private sources before debuting as a private source.
19. Posts for "vets" to point others toward a source
20. Posts in a complaint thread along side shills addressing the complaint...on his gear he sold as a source
21. Posts about not being able to cap at or below 1mg (decades long professional?)
22. Posts about getting weed from other forum members.
23. Posts as a member to get other members to recommend equipment/procedures
24. Does not know what DHB is Oct 2017
25. Asks members how to turn btc into cash Nov 2017
@mands would you mind confirming if all these points are true? Other than alternate handle is the rest true? You said some stuff wasn’t true if I remember right? Just curious if you didn’t mind letting us know, if not I understand just asking.
 
LE don’t give two shit about steriods, most are on them.
Exactly, that’s y u never hear of anyone ever getting busted...but actually I do tend to agree with u on the personal user, but sources go down all the time, so I’d say there is some interest there.. yes a lot of times it’s something else that gets them caught and LE falls into the bust.. but that’s not case every time.
 
Ok, let me clear up just a few things.

First and foremost, i would never, ever retaliate on anyone for any reason. Especially snitch on somebody. I've been burned for thousands of dollars from just one customer, let alone all total. I erased their personal info and moved on. Chalked it up as breakage. I'm a very level headed and even tempered guy.

As far as drinking and guns and the such. I technically don't own any firearms nor are there any at my house or anywhere near where i do my business. As for drinking, i probably get drunk once every 3 or 4 months. Far from a gun toting alcoholic out causing a ruckus. I don't use illicit drugs and i don't smoke marijuana. Tried marijuana a little while back and hated it.

As for the things in the original post where op said, basically "these are the things we know about xkawn/stanford" some of them aren't even true.

As for opsec, all you've dug up was some pretty basic stuff. Stuff most rattle off in casual conversation. And like i said, some of it not even true.

Not sure what i did to piss original poster off. I've done my best to make sure everyone I've dealt with was more than happy. I've even did my best to take care of customers who, for whatever reason, weren't treated right and said they didn't want it and were never coming back and slammed me on the board. Didn't expect anything and never held a grudge.

Now on the ordering semi finished product and the question of do i synthesize my own product. This happened once. I placed an order and some of the stuff came in semi finished. I didn't ask for that and on my very next purchase i made it clear i wanted raw powder, not semi finished. Maybe @purplepandalabs can come in here and verify this.

I posted in panda's thread as xkawn because i had a delay issue and i didn't feel like it would be best if i use SP handle as to not promote another source. I hade a complaint, i did mention my experiences in the context of a conversation and i also tried to help a few people out. Keep in mind, I've been on this board for a very long time and have been doing my best to help people out. Man, the number of people I've helped brewing just behind the scenes. I would like to think this doesn't sound like a scammer or a schemer. I think some forget sources, including myself, are human. We're painted as drug dealers who don't give a shit about their customers. Couldn't be further from the truth. I've also helped some on this board that had fallen on hard times. Most of the time anonymously.

My numerous threads. One was just for a sale, one was as a private source and then once when i opened to the public. Wish i could have just changed the title of the thread. I contemplated doing another when i went private again, but i decided not to because of the shipping delays and complaints i thought it would be wrong to do so. Those complaints deserve to be in the thread.

Me posting as xkawn while sourcing as SP. As far as i know i haven't violated any board rules. I did my best to be as honorable as possible and not let the two corrupt eachother, but there were times i felt i needed to use xkawn. Here is one example. I needed some raws fast because my pack was taking forever to get. I was running low on a product so i ordered from a domestic raw source. I didn't want to be connected to that source as SP so i ordered from a xkawn email. I had an issue with my pack. It was shorted and it looked like it was intentional. That domestic source appeared to be burning people (including me) and other customers were confiding in me and i posted in sources thread as xkawn. Thats just one example.

Members info. No way to really prove this, but i don't keep it. I now pay someone to do my emails and he is told to erase the chain when transaction is completely done. I've had members say "do you remember this or do you remember that). Answers always no because info is not kept. Not one time has anyone mentioned why am i keeping their emails so there's no proof of it.

Long post and I'm not sure what else to say. I'm sure there's something i forgot and i apologize in advance. A few things in my defense, if i may. I've never had a bad test, never had a contamination, never a accusation that i burned anyone, etc. I've replaced or refunded pretty much anyone that has complained about anything including pip. Who does that?


I'm asking, honestly asking, anyone here have a complaint about a transaction that it wasn't evident that i tried my best to make you happy? I'm not perfect, but i try to make sure everyone is happy. My biggest let down was when i took on way too many orders and things got out of control. I took care of everybody in the end and did my best to make them happy. And I'm trying to rectify the problem by going private.

So, if anyone that has ordered from me has had a complaint, please step forward. I hold no grudge. All the years I've been brewing and sourcing and the years that I've been here sourcing i think i would have been run off if i had done bad at my job. I will be opening back up when I'm ready and i guess if you feel like I'm a security risk or bad at what i do or even a bad guy then blow up my thread. Not much i can do about it and i don't think it will be a reflection of the job I've done as SP.

So, I'm sorry for what i did to OP. Wish he would have contacted me. I could have rectified it. I'm not gonna accuse him of being another source or anything. I'll just assume i didn't live up to the standard i expected of myself. Thanks for hearing me out and I'm not gonna speak much more on it. I learned my lesson when tgi and that other source came in making things up about me and i tried to defend myself. It just doesn't look good.

Once again, no ill will to OP.

Thank you.
 
Wow @StanfordPharma props to you man serious. On ASF the source would be talking about fucking your mom, you getting raped by your dad and calling you a piece of shit. Stanford stays cool and says no Ill will rapier even after this.
 
Ok, let me clear up just a few things.

First and foremost, i would never, ever retaliate on anyone for any reason. Especially snitch on somebody. I've been burned for thousands of dollars from just one customer, let alone all total. I erased their personal info and moved on. Chalked it up as breakage. I'm a very level headed and even tempered guy.

As far as drinking and guns and the such. I technically don't own any firearms nor are there any at my house or anywhere near where i do my business. As for drinking, i probably get drunk once every 3 or 4 months. Far from a gun toting alcoholic out causing a ruckus. I don't use illicit drugs and i don't smoke marijuana. Tried marijuana a little while back and hated it.

As for the things in the original post where op said, basically "these are the things we know about xkawn/stanford" some of them aren't even true.

As for opsec, all you've dug up was some pretty basic stuff. Stuff most rattle off in casual conversation. And like i said, some of it not even true.

Not sure what i did to piss original poster off. I've done my best to make sure everyone I've dealt with was more than happy. I've even did my best to take care of customers who, for whatever reason, weren't treated right and said they didn't want it and were never coming back and slammed me on the board. Didn't expect anything and never held a grudge.

Now on the ordering semi finished product and the question of do i synthesize my own product. This happened once. I placed an order and some of the stuff came in semi finished. I didn't ask for that and on my very next purchase i made it clear i wanted raw powder, not semi finished. Maybe @purplepandalabs can come in here and verify this.

I posted in panda's thread as xkawn because i had a delay issue and i didn't feel like it would be best if i use SP handle as to not promote another source. I hade a complaint, i did mention my experiences in the context of a conversation and i also tried to help a few people out. Keep in mind, I've been on this board for a very long time and have been doing my best to help people out. Man, the number of people I've helped brewing just behind the scenes. I would like to think this doesn't sound like a scammer or a schemer. I think some forget sources, including myself, are human. We're painted as drug dealers who don't give a shit about their customers. Couldn't be further from the truth. I've also helped some on this board that had fallen on hard times. Most of the time anonymously.

My numerous threads. One was just for a sale, one was as a private source and then once when i opened to the public. Wish i could have just changed the title of the thread. I contemplated doing another when i went private again, but i decided not to because of the shipping delays and complaints i thought it would be wrong to do so. Those complaints deserve to be in the thread.

Me posting as xkawn while sourcing as SP. As far as i know i haven't violated any board rules. I did my best to be as honorable as possible and not let the two corrupt eachother, but there were times i felt i needed to use xkawn. Here is one example. I needed some raws fast because my pack was taking forever to get. I was running low on a product so i ordered from a domestic raw source. I didn't want to be connected to that source as SP so i ordered from a xkawn email. I had an issue with my pack. It was shorted and it looked like it was intentional. That domestic source appeared to be burning people (including me) and other customers were confiding in me and i posted in sources thread as xkawn. Thats just one example.

Members info. No way to really prove this, but i don't keep it. I now pay someone to do my emails and he is told to erase the chain when transaction is completely done. I've had members say "do you remember this or do you remember that). Answers always no because info is not kept. Not one time has anyone mentioned why am i keeping their emails so there's no proof of it.

Long post and I'm not sure what else to say. I'm sure there's something i forgot and i apologize in advance. A few things in my defense, if i may. I've never had a bad test, never had a contamination, never a accusation that i burned anyone, etc. I've replaced or refunded pretty much anyone that has complained about anything including pip. Who does that?


I'm asking, honestly asking, anyone here have a complaint about a transaction that it wasn't evident that i tried my best to make you happy? I'm not perfect, but i try to make sure everyone is happy. My biggest let down was when i took on way too many orders and things got out of control. I took care of everybody in the end and did my best to make them happy. And I'm trying to rectify the problem by going private.

So, if anyone that has ordered from me has had a complaint, please step forward. I hold no grudge. All the years I've been brewing and sourcing and the years that I've been here sourcing i think i would have been run off if i had done bad at my job. I will be opening back up when I'm ready and i guess if you feel like I'm a security risk or bad at what i do or even a bad guy then blow up my thread. Not much i can do about it and i don't think it will be a reflection of the job I've done as SP.

So, I'm sorry for what i did to OP. Wish he would have contacted me. I could have rectified it. I'm not gonna accuse him of being another source or anything. I'll just assume i didn't live up to the standard i expected of myself. Thanks for hearing me out and I'm not gonna speak much more on it. I learned my lesson when tgi and that other source came in making things up about me and i tried to defend myself. It just doesn't look good.

Once again, no ill will to OP.

Thank you.
As I've mentioned in another thread on here you've went completely above and beyond for me several times in the past and have even shipped before funds were sent in an emergency.

Other than being late you've never done me wrong in anyway. And everytime I've ever ordered I always ordered knowing your shipping times were longer than others but I trusted you and your gear. The last time i ordered I did get Andy cause I was worried that something may have happened to you and was worried about you being compromised not knowing you were back in the hospital again and for that I apologize.
 
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