Stanford Pharma aka SP = Meso Member Xkawn

[Mac11wildcat]

Ok, let me clear up just a few things.

First and foremost, i would never, ever retaliate on anyone for any reason. Especially snitch on somebody. I've been burned for thousands of dollars from just one customer, let alone all total. I erased their personal info and moved on. Chalked it up as breakage. I'm a very level headed and even tempered guy.

As far as drinking and guns and the such. I technically don't own any firearms nor are there any at my house or anywhere near where i do my business. As for drinking, i probably get drunk once every 3 or 4 months. Far from a gun toting alcoholic out causing a ruckus. I don't use illicit drugs and i don't smoke marijuana. Tried marijuana a little while back and hated it.

As for the things in the original post where op said, basically "these are the things we know about xkawn/stanford" some of them aren't even true.

As for opsec, all you've dug up was some pretty basic stuff. Stuff most rattle off in casual conversation. And like i said, some of it not even true.

Not sure what i did to piss original poster off. I've done my best to make sure everyone I've dealt with was more than happy. I've even did my best to take care of customers who, for whatever reason, weren't treated right and said they didn't want it and were never coming back and slammed me on the board. Didn't expect anything and never held a grudge.

Now on the ordering semi finished product and the question of do i synthesize my own product. This happened once. I placed an order and some of the stuff came in semi finished. I didn't ask for that and on my very next purchase i made it clear i wanted raw powder, not semi finished. Maybe @purplepandalabs can come in here and verify this.

I posted in panda's thread as xkawn because i had a delay issue and i didn't feel like it would be best if i use SP handle as to not promote another source. I hade a complaint, i did mention my experiences in the context of a conversation and i also tried to help a few people out. Keep in mind, I've been on this board for a very long time and have been doing my best to help people out. Man, the number of people I've helped brewing just behind the scenes. I would like to think this doesn't sound like a scammer or a schemer. I think some forget sources, including myself, are human. We're painted as drug dealers who don't give a shit about their customers. Couldn't be further from the truth. I've also helped some on this board that had fallen on hard times. Most of the time anonymously.

My numerous threads. One was just for a sale, one was as a private source and then once when i opened to the public. Wish i could have just changed the title of the thread. I contemplated doing another when i went private again, but i decided not to because of the shipping delays and complaints i thought it would be wrong to do so. Those complaints deserve to be in the thread.

Me posting as xkawn while sourcing as SP. As far as i know i haven't violated any board rules. I did my best to be as honorable as possible and not let the two corrupt eachother, but there were times i felt i needed to use xkawn. Here is one example. I needed some raws fast because my pack was taking forever to get. I was running low on a product so i ordered from a domestic raw source. I didn't want to be connected to that source as SP so i ordered from a xkawn email. I had an issue with my pack. It was shorted and it looked like it was intentional. That domestic source appeared to be burning people (including me) and other customers were confiding in me and i posted in sources thread as xkawn. Thats just one example.

Members info. No way to really prove this, but i don't keep it. I now pay someone to do my emails and he is told to erase the chain when transaction is completely done. I've had members say "do you remember this or do you remember that). Answers always no because info is not kept. Not one time has anyone mentioned why am i keeping their emails so there's no proof of it.

Long post and I'm not sure what else to say. I'm sure there's something i forgot and i apologize in advance. A few things in my defense, if i may. I've never had a bad test, never had a contamination, never a accusation that i burned anyone, etc. I've replaced or refunded pretty much anyone that has complained about anything including pip. Who does that?


I'm asking, honestly asking, anyone here have a complaint about a transaction that it wasn't evident that i tried my best to make you happy? I'm not perfect, but i try to make sure everyone is happy. My biggest let down was when i took on way too many orders and things got out of control. I took care of everybody in the end and did my best to make them happy. And I'm trying to rectify the problem by going private.

So, if anyone that has ordered from me has had a complaint, please step forward. I hold no grudge. All the years I've been brewing and sourcing and the years that I've been here sourcing i think i would have been run off if i had done bad at my job. I will be opening back up when I'm ready and i guess if you feel like I'm a security risk or bad at what i do or even a bad guy then blow up my thread. Not much i can do about it and i don't think it will be a reflection of the job I've done as SP.

So, I'm sorry for what i did to OP. Wish he would have contacted me. I could have rectified it. I'm not gonna accuse him of being another source or anything. I'll just assume i didn't live up to the standard i expected of myself. Thanks for hearing me out and I'm not gonna speak much more on it. I learned my lesson when tgi and that other source came in making things up about me and i tried to defend myself. It just doesn't look good.

Once again, no ill will to OP.

Thank you.

Guess your decision, and that of your customers, is with whether the info presented in the OP puts your operation at risk. Unlike most here I was more bothered by the original keeping of this info than by your tenure as a source or this thread.

 

[Savagesteve]

Ok, let me clear up just a few things.

First and foremost, i would never, ever retaliate on anyone for any reason. Especially snitch on somebody. I've been burned for thousands of dollars from just one customer, let alone all total. I erased their personal info and moved on. Chalked it up as breakage. I'm a very level headed and even tempered guy.

As far as drinking and guns and the such. I technically don't own any firearms nor are there any at my house or anywhere near where i do my business. As for drinking, i probably get drunk once every 3 or 4 months. Far from a gun toting alcoholic out causing a ruckus. I don't use illicit drugs and i don't smoke marijuana. Tried marijuana a little while back and hated it.

As for the things in the original post where op said, basically "these are the things we know about xkawn/stanford" some of them aren't even true.

As for opsec, all you've dug up was some pretty basic stuff. Stuff most rattle off in casual conversation. And like i said, some of it not even true.

Not sure what i did to piss original poster off. I've done my best to make sure everyone I've dealt with was more than happy. I've even did my best to take care of customers who, for whatever reason, weren't treated right and said they didn't want it and were never coming back and slammed me on the board. Didn't expect anything and never held a grudge.

Now on the ordering semi finished product and the question of do i synthesize my own product. This happened once. I placed an order and some of the stuff came in semi finished. I didn't ask for that and on my very next purchase i made it clear i wanted raw powder, not semi finished. Maybe @purplepandalabs can come in here and verify this.

I posted in panda's thread as xkawn because i had a delay issue and i didn't feel like it would be best if i use SP handle as to not promote another source. I hade a complaint, i did mention my experiences in the context of a conversation and i also tried to help a few people out. Keep in mind, I've been on this board for a very long time and have been doing my best to help people out. Man, the number of people I've helped brewing just behind the scenes. I would like to think this doesn't sound like a scammer or a schemer. I think some forget sources, including myself, are human. We're painted as drug dealers who don't give a shit about their customers. Couldn't be further from the truth. I've also helped some on this board that had fallen on hard times. Most of the time anonymously.

My numerous threads. One was just for a sale, one was as a private source and then once when i opened to the public. Wish i could have just changed the title of the thread. I contemplated doing another when i went private again, but i decided not to because of the shipping delays and complaints i thought it would be wrong to do so. Those complaints deserve to be in the thread.

Me posting as xkawn while sourcing as SP. As far as i know i haven't violated any board rules. I did my best to be as honorable as possible and not let the two corrupt eachother, but there were times i felt i needed to use xkawn. Here is one example. I needed some raws fast because my pack was taking forever to get. I was running low on a product so i ordered from a domestic raw source. I didn't want to be connected to that source as SP so i ordered from a xkawn email. I had an issue with my pack. It was shorted and it looked like it was intentional. That domestic source appeared to be burning people (including me) and other customers were confiding in me and i posted in sources thread as xkawn. Thats just one example.

Members info. No way to really prove this, but i don't keep it. I now pay someone to do my emails and he is told to erase the chain when transaction is completely done. I've had members say "do you remember this or do you remember that). Answers always no because info is not kept. Not one time has anyone mentioned why am i keeping their emails so there's no proof of it.

Long post and I'm not sure what else to say. I'm sure there's something i forgot and i apologize in advance. A few things in my defense, if i may. I've never had a bad test, never had a contamination, never a accusation that i burned anyone, etc. I've replaced or refunded pretty much anyone that has complained about anything including pip. Who does that?


I'm asking, honestly asking, anyone here have a complaint about a transaction that it wasn't evident that i tried my best to make you happy? I'm not perfect, but i try to make sure everyone is happy. My biggest let down was when i took on way too many orders and things got out of control. I took care of everybody in the end and did my best to make them happy. And I'm trying to rectify the problem by going private.

So, if anyone that has ordered from me has had a complaint, please step forward. I hold no grudge. All the years I've been brewing and sourcing and the years that I've been here sourcing i think i would have been run off if i had done bad at my job. I will be opening back up when I'm ready and i guess if you feel like I'm a security risk or bad at what i do or even a bad guy then blow up my thread. Not much i can do about it and i don't think it will be a reflection of the job I've done as SP.

So, I'm sorry for what i did to OP. Wish he would have contacted me. I could have rectified it. I'm not gonna accuse him of being another source or anything. I'll just assume i didn't live up to the standard i expected of myself. Thanks for hearing me out and I'm not gonna speak much more on it. I learned my lesson when tgi and that other source came in making things up about me and i tried to defend myself. It just doesn't look good.

Once again, no ill will to OP.

Thank you.

I’ll stand by what is said by taking care of customers as well. I had some test e that gave me and a couple of buddies some brutal pip and not only did he send test e replacements from a different batch, he sent sust just in case there was another issue.

 

[Brawny]

I agree with the above.

Personally I’ve never ordered from Stan, but I’ve never heard of anyone having any issues other than some late packages.

With that being said, the behind the scenes vetting is shady. That’s what I have a problem with the most. It defeats the purpose of a community board where the members hold the sources accountable.

I will say Stanford has handled this with dignity and respect.

 

[GrowingSeason36]

Guess your reading skills suck then?

Could b true

 

[HIGHRISK]

What if just what if...

@XKawN is @Rapier calling out @StanfordPharma who is actually @MisterSuperGod ?

 

[Oldschool]

What if just what if...

@XKawN is @Rapier calling out @StanfordPharma who is actually @MisterSuperGod ?

Here come the dick pics.

 

[HIGHRISK]

Here come the dick pics.

Shhhh

you’ve got mail

 

[Zebedee]

@StanfordPharma

Ok, but one issue you haven't addressed in your post is the lack of vetting.

Obviously as you've been here years we don't need stock pics, "about me" waffle etc, but it's about time we saw pics of your set-up & heard you describe your processes etc.

Everyone else is expected to go through this, so it's only fair you face the same.

Oh & personally I couldn't give a shit whether "vets" were given this info privately years ago - everyone else deserves to see & hear it too.

No if's or but's here. Nothing personal (I'm in the UK, not the US), but it's put-up or fuck-off time now & the clock's ticking mate.

 

[muscletrain]

@StanfordPharma

Ok, but one issue you haven't addressed in your post is the lack of vetting.

Obviously as you've been here years we don't need stock pics, "about me" waffle etc, but it's about time we saw pics of your set-up & heard you describe your processes etc.

Everyone else is expected to go through this, so it's only fair you face the same.

Oh & personally I couldn't give a shit whether "vets" were given this info privately years ago - everyone else deserves to see & hear it too.

No if's or but's here. Nothing personal (I'm in the UK, not the US), but it's put-up or fuck-off time now & the clock's ticking mate.

Wait so Stanford just bypassed the whole setup photos, product pics, and most important titty pics when he showed up? How the fuck did that happen...was he given an ocular pat down and a "g2g" by the vets?

 

[Brawny]

@StanfordPharma

Ok, but one issue you haven't addressed in your post is the lack of vetting.

Obviously as you've been here years we don't need stock pics, "about me" waffle etc, but it's about time we saw pics of your set-up & heard you describe your processes etc.

Everyone else is expected to go through this, so it's only fair you face the same.

Oh & personally I couldn't give a shit whether "vets" were given this info privately years ago - everyone else deserves to see & hear it too.

No if's or but's here. Nothing personal (I'm in the UK, not the US), but it's put-up or fuck-off time now & the clock's ticking mate.

Seems like an appropriate time to copy this post and move it into his source thread

 

[Mighty-mouse]

What if just what if...

@XKawN is @Rapier calling out @StanfordPharma who is actually @MisterSuperGod ?

Now this requires the tequila

 

[Akuj]

Aside from all this drama, I would definitely love to see active sources be checked up on every 6 months to a year, a lot can change within that time frame.

I'm sure @Silentlemon1011 can vouch on how fast a lab can go from prestine to a total shit show from his career experience.

 

[Grab Bag]

But, the rules do apply here and they did in this case as well. Just because those that came after weren't privy to the discussions about vetting Stan doesn't mean it didn't happen.

People are making assumptions without knowing the actual facts.

And shame on MESO members for ordering from him if they didn't think he was vetted properly

mands

As someone who came after the fact, and has never ordered from Stan, I would like to know what you’re alluding to here...

I take it you are saying he was vetted behind closed doors?

I would be interested in a history lesson here, if you’re up for it.

 

[Grab Bag]

Agreed. Is Rapier a former customer of Stans? If he is I understand his making this alt acct to bring forth his issues. If he has stated this then I missed it.
If he isn't a customer, formerly or presently, then is everyone ok with his posting behind an alt acct?
If he isn't a customer now or previously, what is he afraid of? I've gone after sources with a customer base 10 times the size of Stans using my original handle. Is he afraid of the backlash from members?
Rapier posted a thread started by a member about myself a few years back. The member attempted to "Out me". If we were all sitting in a large auditorium having Town Hall type meeting that member would likely have not made it to his car safely.
The member was labeled a snitch and subsequently left meso only to return with a different handle. I believe he has since returned to posting under his original handle as things have a way of blowing over.
Its a good read...especially because its about me. At the time I was on the run from the feds with an outstanding warrant for a Supervised Release Violation.
The US Marshal who had me on his caseload used Meso to try and pinpoint my whereabouts. It wasn't like there was a manhunt for me because I escaped from prison. The Marshals have a Fugitive Recovery Task Force who start at one end of the Valley and work their way back to LA where the Marshall who handled me was based. They do this at least once a month. They visit addressed and people I was associated with. My grown children received monthly visits from them telling them its best to try and get me to turn myself in and blah blah.
They pulled a girl who is a life long friend of my wifes over in an unregistered truck her uncle owned. She had her mentally retarded son with her. She was taking him to school. There was a time when I had stayed at her home. The Marshals were given this info. They pulled her over and they told her if she told them where we were(wife and I run together..codefendants) they would let her drive off in the unregistered vehicle. If she didn't the truck was going to be towed. She was left on the side of the road with her retarded son.
That was an expensive week. I worked things out with her uncle and paid the amount he was out.
Not everyone is as solid. I know who ratted us out. A local who we considered a "Friend" had a state case and turned informant. We were renting a house back in Aug 2018. He was friendly with the owner of the house. He was with the owner when he came to do a repair.
The next morning the street was closed off and the house surrounded. Palm Springs is a small town when it comes to locals. The guy had heard we were on the run and house hopping. Everything is for rent. We had gotten adept at staying off the radar. Doing what I was doing at the time makes it easy to do so.
The guy called his handler and told him he knew the whereabouts of 2 federal fugitives. The Marshals were at the local PD a few hours later to be briefed on things by the snitch. He gave them a layout of the house. Told which bedroom we slept in. Where I sat with my laptop, etc.
I know this because the guy who owned the home made a claim on his homeowners insurance to repair damages he said were made by LE when the entered the home. We always have cameras pointed in several directions(they knew this also) and we came out after making a few calls to have my son come and secure our belongings. He was outside before we were taken away.
Anyway, the home owners insurance company wanted proof that LE had caused the damage etc so he obtained a police report of the incident. In the report it spoke to how the local PD lent a supportive role to the Marshals. It talked about and named our "Friend" turned snitch and how he alerted local PD to our whereabouts and how he met with US Marshals to aid them with intel.
So, LE does in fact use sites like meso, FB and other sites where criminals are known to hang. The Marshal told me that morning he tried to locate me through my posts and the post of others.
Its grown up stuff going on here fellas.
I served a 10 month violation behind the wall for that class C violation. There isn't a penalty for running and not showing up for the court date to violate me, per say. I may have been given the low or medium end of the guidelines if I had turned myself in voluntarily and not the 10 months I got.(guidelines called for 4 to 10 months) The key is not to pick up new charges while running which people often do. I did not. That violation killed my paper and brought to a close my case from 2008. It was a long ride.

Man, you have had a wild life. Always enjoy your posts.

 

[Villain]

I don't use illicit drugs and i don't smoke marijuana. Tried marijuana a little while back and hated it.

You’re kidding right? I recall numerous posts from you talking about getting high, seemingly on a regular basis.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Well fuck, business as usual on MESO. We spend all day yesterday talking about OPSEC and how @Rapier potentially harmed every member that may have ordered.

And....... Fuck it. Stan will be open in a couple weeks.

Yay. Order with confidence.

 

[Villain]

Well fuck, business as usual on MESO. We spend all day yesterday talking about OPSEC and how @Rapier potentially harmed every member that may have ordered.

And....... Fuck it. Stan will be open in a couple weeks.

Yay. Order with confidence.

Well yeah, because he came in here and gave a speech and made everything right. And besides, what other choices do we have?

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

Well yeah, because he came in here and gave a speech and made everything right. And besides, what other choices do we have?

Yep. Absolutely NO double standard. It’s NOTHING like MLI who got pushed out a few weeks ago because everyone knew his previous member handle and that was delicate for OPSEC. And now everyone knows Stan’s previous member handle and that makes it delicate for OPSEC to the point that people were pretty pissed at @Rapier yesterday wanting to kick his teeth in.

Wait, now it’s exactly like that...

Except Stan has the approval of the MESO Cabal so it’s different. Trust them.

 

[Scotian]

You’re kidding right? I recall numerous posts from you talking about getting high, seemingly on a regular basis.

That’s why I just order gear from my local pastor. I know he doesn’t smoke the devils lettuce while making gear and isn’t a sinner. Don’t trust any of them terrible people who smoke the odd joint or drink every few months.

Really in all honesty, why the fuck does it matter if the guy smokes weed lol.

 

[size26s]

I’m not one to stir things up at all but I received a PM awhile back from a member who was one of stans guys. Most know him as the member who reappears for free gear and then disappears for awhile then ends up in a new source thread sending off samples and what not and even did it for sym.

Only bring this up because Weed was brought up in the thread. This member reached out to me. I didn’t ask or question anything. He told me he would trade weed for gear with the sources mentioned in the thread. Again I never cared or brought it up. Didn’t really matter to me one bit, but he pmed me out of nowhere and told me he would trade weed for gear.

I could careless if someone smokes weed and what they do but found it odd this person told me he trades when I never even asked about it or brought it up in any thread.