Stanford Pharma aka SP = Meso Member Xkawn

[Villain]

That’s why I just order gear from my local pastor. I know he doesn’t smoke the devils lettuce while making gear and isn’t a sinner. Don’t trust any of them terrible people who smoke the odd joint or drink every few months.

Really in all honesty, why the fuck does it matter if the guy smokes weed lol.

You completely missed the point that the dude has yet again lied.

 

[Scotian]

You completely missed the point that the dude has yet again lied.

I know I was just fucking around, I agree if there is a lot of post from the source contradicting himself it’s not a good look. I could see a lot of you US fellas looking for a new source after all of this mess.

 

[Savagesteve]

I’m not one to stir things up at all but I received a PM awhile back from a member who was one of stans guys. Most know him as the member who reappears for free gear and then disappears for awhile then ends up in a new source thread sending off samples and what not and even did it for sym.

Only bring this up because Weed was brought up in the thread. This member reached out to me. I didn’t ask or question anything. He told me he would trade weed for gear with the sources mentioned in the thread. Again I never cared or brought it up. Didn’t really matter to me one bit, but he pmed me out of nowhere and told me he would trade weed for gear.

I could careless if someone smokes weed and what they do but found it odd this person told me he trades when I never even asked about it or brought it up in any thread.

Funny that you mention this, I got the same offer although it was to purchase the bud outright...and it wasn’t SP

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Wacky tabaccy strikes again...

Man has a shitshow on his hands and makes one single post..

 

[bigpoppachump2]

Yep. Absolutely NO double standard. It’s NOTHING like MLI who got pushed out a few weeks ago because everyone knew his previous member handle and that was delicate for OPSEC. And now everyone knows Stan’s previous member handle and that makes it delicate for OPSEC to the point that people were pretty pissed at @Rapier yesterday wanting to kick his teeth in.

Wait, now it’s exactly like that...

Except Stan has the approval of the MESO Cabal so it’s different. Trust them.

Hey now! I posted the fact that Stan had looked out for me and helped me out with a few issues. He didnt have to and any other resource probably would have not even returned the email lol. I' was stating that at the end of the day I trusted Stan would come through and he always did and made up for any issues that arise greatly.

With all that out of the way I will not be ordering from him again. I hope if he does open back up that he fixes his delivery issues and I hope everyone who buys remain safe as well as Stan.

The decision to bo longer buy from him anymore has as much to do with a change in direction of where I'm going in life than it does with Stan. If I wasnt making these personal changes and was still considering buying from him I would sit down and go through all the evidence posted and sit on it and decide if the OPSEC issues are big enough issues to avoid him in the future. I'll admit it, I'd at least give him the time and respect to do my own research on the situation before I wrote him off, years of successful transactions and helping out in situations that he didn't have to at least deserve that much.

But overall I'm just done buying ugl gear all together. When my current supplies run out on going Dr prescribed trt moving forward for health and safety reasons.

 

[Stanfordpharma1]

You’re kidding right? I recall numerous posts from you talking about getting high, seemingly on a regular basis.

Go ahead and bring one of those posts up. I doubt you can because it's not true. I've tried, as an adult, marijuana a few times. My doc even recommended it for pain. I don't like it very much. Even in one of my older posts i mention i hadn't used it since i was a kid which is a very long time ago. My old post says I'd like to try and get back into it and i wanted something that would help with pain and anti inflammation properties. I was even asking for recommendations because i had no idea what i was doing. So i tried it and i hated it. Not lying about anything. Withheld my older handle for security reasons. That was it.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Hey now! I posted the fact that Stan had looked out for me and helped me out with a few issues. He didnt have to and any other resource probably would have not even returned the email lol. I' was stating that at the end of the day I trusted Stan would come through and he always did and made up for any issues that arise greatly.

With all that out of the way I will not be ordering from him again. I hope if he does open back up that he fixes his delivery issues and I hope everyone who buys remain safe as well as Stan.

The decision to only buy from him anymore has as much to do with a change in direction of where I'm going in life than it does with Stan. If I wasnt making these personal changes and was still considering buying from him I would sit down and go through all the evidence posted and sit on it and decide if the OPSEC issues are big enough issues to avoid him in the future. I'll admit it, I'd at least give him the time and respect to do my own research on the situation before I wrote him off, years of successful transactions and helping out in situations that he didn't have to at least deserve that much.

But overall I'm just done buying ugl gear all together. When my current supplies run out on going Dr prescribed trt moving forward for health and safety reasons.

Again, we’re far less concerned with Stan himself than how this happened and what the result is. If Stan does what he’s supposed to, and if you decide to ride off into the sunset, i wouldn’t be worried man.

Withheld my older handle for security reasons. That was it.

if it was withheld for security reasons but people knew, it was only withheld from certain people (everyone except for a few important people), as I understand.

If it was security after all, does being outed put your operation at risk? Answer the questions that matter here. Nobody really gives a shit if you smoke or own firearms (unless, you know, xkawn means excon, and you own them illegally...)

 

[size26s]

Funny that you mention this, I got the same offer although it was to purchase the bud outright...and it wasn’t SP

was it from who I mentioned without mentioning names. I always thought he was a joke begging for free gear. Like I said if you go to Syms thread this person sent out samples for sym and was always in stans thread. Then I mentioned you sure do pop up in a little of threads. I said this in the sym thread awhile back and that’s when I received the pm from this person saying he trades weed to Stan for gear. I never trusted the guy and didn’t reply so he may have been making it all up.

 

[bigpoppachump2]

Well fuck, business as usual on MESO. We spend all day yesterday talking about OPSEC and how @Rapier potentially harmed every member that may have ordered.

And....... Fuck it. Stan will be open in a couple weeks.

Yay. Order with confidence.

Again, we’re far less concerned with Stan himself than how this happened and what the result is.


if it was withheld for security reasons but people knew, it was only withheld from certain people, as I understand.

If it was security after all, does being outed put your operation at risk? Answer the questions that matter here. Nobody really gives a shit if you smoke or own firearms (unless, you know, xkawn means excon, and you own them illegally...)

I quoted the wrong post when i replied. This was the post I meant to reply too. I just wanted to clear it up that I'm not one of the meso veterans who are ok with all of this and think it's no big deal. Now that it has all been put out in public I'd be a fool to just blindly order and take anyone's word for it that stan is good to go and not a risk to my freedom

 

[Stanfordpharma1]

was it from who I mentioned without mentioning names. I always thought he was a joke begging for free gear. Like I said if you go to Syms thread this person sent out samples for sym and was always in stans thread. Then I mentioned you sure do pop up in a little of threads. I said this in the sym thread awhile back and that’s when I received the pm from this person saying he trades weed to Stan for gear. I never trusted the guy and didn’t reply so he may have been making it all up.

I can only assume who your talking about. I made it public that i helped this person get back on his feet so there wouldn't be anything scrupulous seeming to go on. This person kept posting good things about SP and i told him to stop numerous times. I finaly stopped all communication with that person as well as another person that lost his way and started burning people in my name. I can't control what other people do, but when i help someone i can assure you my heart is in the right place.

 

[size26s]

I can only assume who your talking about. I made it public that i helped this person get back on his feet so there wouldn't be anything scrupulous seeming to go on. This person kept posting good things about SP and i told him to stop numerous times. I finaly stopped all communication with that person as well as another person that lost his way and started burning people in my name. I can't control what other people do, but when i help someone i can assure you my heart is in the right place.

I understand. I only brought it up now because this thread popped up. I never posted this. I got this pm over a year ago and just thought this is odd, again I never thought this person was credible, just someone who likes free steroids and drugs. We all know who it is. He hasn’t posted in awhile but I’m sure he will be back. I never thought anything of it until this thread came up. It’s why I didn’t reply to this person because I know he’s shady as most of us do on here

 

[Mac11wildcat]

Again, we’re far less concerned with Stan himself than how this happened and what the result is. If Stan does what he’s supposed to, and if you decide to ride off into the sunset, i wouldn’t be worried man.


if it was withheld for security reasons but people knew, it was only withheld from certain people (everyone except for a few important people), as I understand.

If it was security after all, does being outed put your operation at risk? Answer the questions that matter here. Nobody really gives a shit if you smoke or own firearms (unless, you know, xkawn means excon, and you own them illegally...)

I can only assume who your talking about. I made it public that i helped this person get back on his feet so there wouldn't be anything scrupulous seeming to go on. This person kept posting good things about SP and i told him to stop numerous times. I finaly stopped all communication with that person as well as another person that lost his way and started burning people in my name. I can't control what other people do, but when i help someone i can assure you my heart is in the right place.

 

[Stanfordpharma1]

Again, we’re far less concerned with Stan himself than how this happened and what the result is. If Stan does what he’s supposed to, and if you decide to ride off into the sunset, i wouldn’t be worried man.


if it was withheld for security reasons but people knew, it was only withheld from certain people (everyone except for a few important people), as I understand.

If it was security after all, does being outed put your operation at risk? Answer the questions that matter here. Nobody really gives a shit if you smoke or own firearms (unless, you know, xkawn means excon, and you own them illegally...)

It wasn't withheld because i didn't want members knowing who i was. I probably would have been accepted quite well if i had let people know. Also, there was some trivial personal stuff mentioned as xkawn. Still, even as xkawn security was a factor as I'm sure it was/is with all of us. I just thoughr it best that i keep them seperate anyways. Wasn't trying to hide it. Thats why i confided in a handful of the guys that have been here for a long time. I thought i was doing what was best. Not trying to be sneaky. If It wasn't the right thing then i apologize. It wasn't meant to be to hide from members.

 

[Villain]

Go ahead and bring one of those posts up. I doubt you can because it's not true. I've tried, as an adult, marijuana a few times. My doc even recommended it for pain. I don't like it very much. Even in one of my older posts i mention i hadn't used it since i was a kid which is a very long time ago. My old post says I'd like to try and get back into it and i wanted something that would help with pain and anti inflammation properties. I was even asking for recommendations because i had no idea what i was doing. So i tried it and i hated it. Not lying about anything. Withheld my older handle for security reasons. That was it.

All good man, I just recall vaguely some posts related to lighting up and seemed frequent.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

It wasn't withheld because i didn't want members knowing who i was. I probably would have been accepted quite well if i had let people know. Also, there was some trivial personal stuff mentioned as xkawn. Still, even as xkawn security was a factor as I'm sure it was/is with all of us. I just thoughr it best that i keep them seperate anyways. Wasn't trying to hide it. Thats why i confided in a handful of the guys that have been here for a long time. I thought i was doing what was best. Not trying to be sneaky. If It wasn't the right thing then i apologize. It wasn't meant to be to hide from members.

Answer the god damn question man.

DOES BEING KNOWN AS XKAWN POSE A SECURITY THREAT FOR YOU OR YOUR CUSTOMERS

 

[Stanfordpharma1]

I understand. I only brought it up now because this thread popped up. I never posted this. I got this pm over a year ago and just thought this is odd, again I never thought this person was credible, just someone who likes free steroids and drugs. We all know who it is. He hasn’t posted in awhile but I’m sure he will be back. I never thought anything of it until this thread came up. It’s why I didn’t reply to this person because I know he’s shady as most of us do on here

He has showed up via email. I don't even answer them anymore. My goal wasn't to support anyones habit. I thought this person was trying to get right and get back on his feet. Doesn't appear to be the case, though. Jeez, i certainly hope we're talking about the same person, lol.

 

[Stanfordpharma1]

Answer the god damn question man.

DOES BEING KNOWN AS XKAWN POSE A SECURITY THREAT FOR YOU OR YOUR CUSTOMERS

I just did answer it. My answer was, even as xkawn i was guarded. A few trivial personal things were mentioned like i have a tattoo or i have a family. Nothing that would let you know who i am.

 

[Mac11wildcat]

I just did answer it. My answer was, even as xkawn i was guarded. A few trivial personal things were mentioned like i have a tattoo or i have a family. Nothing that would let you know who i am.

So your answer is “no.”

 

[Stanfordpharma1]

So your answer is “no.”

I thought it would be better to answer in a more specific way than just one word, but the answer is no.

 

[muscletrain]

Damn man only took you how long to come in and admit that you are in fact xkawn. I feel sorry for the US boys but move the fuck on I'm buying a bulk pack of red flags and starting to throw them down.