Underworld
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How many years' worth of peptides can you safely store, and where? Thanks.
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STOCK UP: Don't say you weren't warned! (US)
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Underworld
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How many years do you think it will keep its potency?
I have brewed test cyp from 2008-2012 and it kept its potency based on my blood work. Not confirmed by a Jano test but pretty reliable indicator that it didn’t degrade.
So, it will last for more than a decade if stored properly.
For peptides, no idea since I use zero peptides or gh.
Deterrence. If law enforcement concentrate on just the big crimes people would rampantly do all the smaller ones knowing its a free meal. There's no question that it can be a deterrent for the people who are on the verge of ordering something knowing they can have trouble such as house search, legal fees etc. The question is how many people (%) and does it worth it.
Average moron for sure needs nothing but steroids and all the new peptides and whatnot for good prices so they can combine a bunch of shit.
Thats what you see, almost everyone here thinks you are gonna get a seizure letter and then a reshipment. No big deal.
I think it would be a nice strategy right now for LE to make an example(s) especially if they want to send the message 'be careful what you order, we monitor it". In the stores it has psychology behind it when they put signs ' any stealing result in charges'.
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Peptides are such a blanket term, you have a spectrum from extremely fragile ones to very robust ones .Which compound?
Blagtheripper
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Never separate a man and his sterons…
what?
Blagtheripper
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Just a joke in an attempt to lighten this whole thing
ThinkTrenbolone
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I'll KILL for mah roidsss
ThinkTrenbolone
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You can store them indefinitely it you use a can of arrgon gas * wine preserve. And masson jars. Moisture absorbers and a deep freezer
okay, eng is not my native, thought you had problem with what I said.
AlexDavis43
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Argon for lyophilized peptides. Remove the vacuum, replace with argon gas?
Nitrogen gas is used to displace oxygen for storing oils; not sure if this is better than vacuum, but it's what is done in laboratory settings.
Never heard of argon for peptides or if this is better than vacuum. Refs? or examples of peptides this is routinely done with
ThinkTrenbolone
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its used to extend shelf life of dried goods wine and even things you need to preserve they use this in the congress to preserve the books or declaration of independence, it displaces oxygen and is heavier than nitrogen. and extremely inherit. its going to work for peptides or steroid raws.
Ghoul
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While every peptide has specific properties there are really just a few simple principles to follow for slowing degradation in storage as much as possible.
1. Always protect from light.
2. Keep in coldest part of the refridgerator or
3. Freeze in an ultra-low (-80c) lab cryo freezer.
-Many peptides will only lose 1% or less of potency in a year at common refrigerator temps.
-Phase change, to or from a frozen state causes damage much faster than aging and must be kept at a minimum. The freezing temperature is not the same as pure water, but an unknown, significantly lower temp. -80c is considered the universally ideal storage temp for peptides.
-You're better off storing in the refrigerator than any household freezer.
Lab freezers like this will work, or a used one for as little as $500 will probably be even higher quality:
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These are available on alibaba for around $999, but I've seen used -80c cryo freezers for $500-800 on ebay.
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Ghoul
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Not really.
Every peptide contains water.
When that water freezes it puts mechanical stress on the protein chain, damaging it.
That water will have a different freezing temp based on the composition of the peptide.
So which peptide? Which freezer? Will that be like your freezer at home, or the peptide you're freezing?
Gonadorelin loses essentially no potency after years at hot temps, 98f+. What's to be gained by putting that through even one thermal stress cycle? Nothing but damage.
Bivalrudin, a highly unstable peptide, only preserves an additional 1% over 3 years by freezing vs refridgeration. Is that even worth the effort? And consider this was conducted by USP, the US pharma standards setting organization, using precision lab equipment, not under the frozen french fries with a lid being opened letting in warm air several times a week.
Not really.
Every peptide contains water.
When that water freezes it puts mechanical stress on the protein chain, damaging it.
That water will have a different freezing temp based on the composition of the peptide.
So which peptide? Which freezer? Will that be like your freezer at home, or the peptide you're freezing?
Gonadorelin loses essentially no potency after years at hot temps, 98f+. What's to be gained by putting that through even one thermal stress cycle? Nothing but damage.
Bivalrudin, a highly unstable peptide, only preserves an additional 1% over 3 years by freezing vs refridgeration. Is that even worth the effort? And consider this was conducted by USP, the US pharma standards setting organization, using precision lab equipment, not under the frozen french fries with a lid being opened letting in warm air several times a week.
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ThinkTrenbolone
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Any studies on dried hormones?
Zebedee
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The US government: eg in the run up to 2012 London Olympics.
You do have a point though - LE in most countries aren’t mindless robots that blindly enforce every single law regardless just because it’s the law.
My main point though was I disagree with the often held belief that when the US government says “jump”, the rest of the West asks “how high?”. Perfect recent examples would be European countries refusing to follow the US & recognise Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, or their attempts to keep the Iran nuclear deal alive after Trump pulled the US out of it - both key signature policies of Trump’s administration & very important to him politically.
Zebedee
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This is just talking about moving cargo to a central location for inspection, ie bringing cargo to officers for inspection rather than officers wasting time travelling to the cargo. Nothing really innovative or radical & just a run-of-the-mill time & motion improvement.
@Ghoul - you’ve not posted any evidence if this new super-dooper parcel-scanning technology either existing in the first place, let alone being implemented by US customs so far in this thread & I’m not sure whether you have in the QSC thread? Either way, can you post some links here?
Then maybe we can get Jano to offer some technical input on it here, where it won’t get quickly buried as his input on Raman scanning has in the QSC thread.
Hypersonic
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This is the Request for Proposal (RFP) package for the JFK Centralized Examination Station. Haven't had time to read or ChatGPT it, but this is what CBP was asking for.
egruberman
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It says nothing about the specifications of the equipment, only that it will be supplied by the vendor. This equipment itself is referred to as "NII" or Non-intrusive inspection equipment.
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