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I highly recommend just stocking up on as much test cyp as possible and storing in the deep freezer. I made 9 vials yesterday and the rest of 100 grams is in deep freezer I'm good for 2 years now. Then when I need another 2 I'll brew another 9 or 10. Basically how I see it. 1kg will last a very very long time for one person. Drop on it domestic or international. Leave the ugl scene till things clear up
No need to freeze it in my opinion, just keep it in a dry cool place.
 
How many years do you think it will keep its potency?
I have brewed test cyp from 2008-2012 and it kept its potency based on my blood work. Not confirmed by a Jano test but pretty reliable indicator that it didn’t degrade.

So, it will last for more than a decade if stored properly.

For peptides, no idea since I use zero peptides or gh.
 
Why the fuck would they wanna even chase anabolics when fuckin fent and shit is out there, steroids legitimately hurt nobody aside from the user and that can be mitigated with proper protocol
Deterrence. If law enforcement concentrate on just the big crimes people would rampantly do all the smaller ones knowing its a free meal. There's no question that it can be a deterrent for the people who are on the verge of ordering something knowing they can have trouble such as house search, legal fees etc. The question is how many people (%) and does it worth it.

Average moron for sure needs nothing but steroids and all the new peptides and whatnot for good prices so they can combine a bunch of shit.


Thats what you see, almost everyone here thinks you are gonna get a seizure letter and then a reshipment. No big deal.
I think it would be a nice strategy right now for LE to make an example(s) especially if they want to send the message 'be careful what you order, we monitor it". In the stores it has psychology behind it when they put signs ' any stealing result in charges'.
 
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Deterrence. If law enforcement concentrate on just the big crimes people would rampantly do all the smaller ones knowing its a free meal. There's no question that it can be a deterrent for the people who are on the verge of ordering something knowing they can have trouble such as house search, legal fees etc. The question is how many people (%) and does it worth it.

Average moron for sure needs nothing but steroids and all the new peptides and whatnot for good prices so they can combine a bunch of shit.


Thats what you see, almost everyone here thinks you are gonna get a seizure letter and then a reshipment. No big deal.
I think it would be a nice strategy right now for LE to make an example(s) especially if they want to send the message 'be careful what you order, we monitor it". In the stores it has psychology behind it when they put signs ' any stealing result in charges'.
Never separate a man and his sterons…
 
You can store them indefinitely it you use a can of arrgon gas * wine preserve. And masson jars. Moisture absorbers and a deep freezer

Argon for lyophilized peptides. Remove the vacuum, replace with argon gas?

Nitrogen gas is used to displace oxygen for storing oils; not sure if this is better than vacuum, but it's what is done in laboratory settings.

Never heard of argon for peptides or if this is better than vacuum. Refs? or examples of peptides this is routinely done with
 
Argon for lyophilized peptides. Remove the vacuum, replace with argon gas?

Nitrogen gas is used to displace oxygen for storing oils; not sure if this is better than vacuum, but it's what is done in laboratory settings.

Never heard of argon for peptides or if this is better than vacuum. Refs? or examples of peptides this is routinely done with
its used to extend shelf life of dried goods wine and even things you need to preserve they use this in the congress to preserve the books or declaration of independence, it displaces oxygen and is heavier than nitrogen. and extremely inherit. its going to work for peptides or steroid raws.
 
Argon for lyophilized peptides. Remove the vacuum, replace with argon gas?

Nitrogen gas is used to displace oxygen for storing oils; not sure if this is better than vacuum, but it's what is done in laboratory settings.

Never heard of argon for peptides or if this is better than vacuum. Refs? or examples of peptides this is routinely done with

While every peptide has specific properties there are really just a few simple principles to follow for slowing degradation in storage as much as possible.

1. Always protect from light.

2. Keep in coldest part of the refridgerator or

3. Freeze in an ultra-low (-80c) lab cryo freezer.

-Many peptides will only lose 1% or less of potency in a year at common refrigerator temps.

-Phase change, to or from a frozen state causes damage much faster than aging and must be kept at a minimum. The freezing temperature is not the same as pure water, but an unknown, significantly lower temp. -80c is considered the universally ideal storage temp for peptides.

-You're better off storing in the refrigerator than any household freezer.

Lab freezers like this will work, or a used one for as little as $500 will probably be even higher quality:


These are available on alibaba for around $999, but I've seen used -80c cryo freezers for $500-800 on ebay.
 
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Hope that Pizzasomething guy who is testing frozen/defrosted peptides with Jano, to check for possible degradation, will be back to let us know the results.
It would, hopefully, settle the fridge-homefreezer debate.

Not really.

Every peptide contains water.

When that water freezes it puts mechanical stress on the protein chain, damaging it.

That water will have a different freezing temp based on the composition of the peptide.

So which peptide? Which freezer? Will that be like your freezer at home, or the peptide you're freezing?

Gonadorelin loses essentially no potency after years at hot temps, 98f+. What's to be gained by putting that through even one thermal stress cycle? Nothing but damage.

Bivalrudin, a highly unstable peptide, only preserves an additional 1% over 3 years by freezing vs refridgeration. Is that even worth the effort? And consider this was conducted by USP, the US pharma standards setting organization, using precision lab equipment, not under the frozen french fries with a lid being opened letting in warm air several times a week.

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Not really.

Every peptide contains water.

When that water freezes it puts mechanical stress on the protein chain, damaging it.

That water will have a different freezing temp based on the composition of the peptide.

So which peptide? Which freezer? Will that be like your freezer at home, or the peptide you're freezing?

Gonadorelin loses essentially no potency after years at hot temps, 98f+. What's to be gained by putting that through even one thermal stress cycle? Nothing but damage.

Bivalrudin, a highly unstable peptide, only preserves an additional 1% over 3 years by freezing vs refridgeration. Is that even worth the effort? And consider this was conducted by USP, the US pharma standards setting organization, using precision lab equipment, not under the frozen french fries with a lid being opened letting in warm air several times a week.

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Any studies on dried hormones?
 
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