STOCK UP: Don't say you weren't warned! (US)

[Ghoul]

It's not hard to hide raws in usual goods. Chances to open and rip the teddy bear apart are small. It will not change anything. They will see a radio or a toy and look on declaration and see that is a radio or a toy that is pay the tax for and let it pass. They don't look for steroids either way. Or find a gay lube oil and on declaration is a lube do you think it will send that for testing? Be serious.
Millions of parcels enter us each day chances to open the container with raws are low,chances to destroy a toy to look inside are even lower.
Do you know how Panda send his raws with normal post that requires a invoice to show to them? It will be the same

I don't think you understand. If some toy company gets caught with contraband in their goods, no shipping company will ever transport their goods to the US again. They'll be blacklisted by the shippers. They'll lose access to the US market.

Maybe that's worth the risk for hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of fentanyl in a few kilo bricks, but what company will risk their existence to smuggle a $500/kg steroid raws?

The reason heroin or cocaine costs far more than steroids is because of the relative risk and difficulty of smuggling it in. If I have a "foolproof" method of smuggling why waste it on low value steroids?

Again, the point is you're not getting a $50 kit of oils shipped this way any more, not that "steroids will be unavailable". That's never been the argument.

Why do you think there are countries that suppliers here will not ship to? It's not an impossible task to make things hard enough it's not worth the effort at the low prices enjoyed today.

 

[primojuju]

Have you seen what it's like trying to get packs from India? One day it was fine, 95%+ success rate, then bam, 4 months ago success rate dropped to under 25% and suddenly everyone's getting love letters. The "two week crackdown then it'll return to normal" turned into a month, then 2, then packs that got through started being recalled AFTER passing customs. The only successful vendors left had to relocate shipping to another country, and that won't last long now that the secret's out. Shipping from India is done.

Again, this is not about it being impossible to buy gear, but returning to market conditions that existed before this huge loophole opened that created a market where $4/vial of Test promos are common. That is, much higher prices and far less variety.

 

[pipo]

I don't think you understand. If some toy company gets caught with contraband in their goods, no shipping company will ever transport their goods to the US again. They'll be blacklisted by the shippers. They'll lose access to the US market.

Maybe that's worth the risk for hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of fentanyl in a few kilo bricks, but what company will risk their existence to smuggle a $500/kg steroid raws?

The reason heroin or cocaine costs far more than steroids is because of the relative risk and difficulty of smuggling it in. If I have a "foolproof" method of smuggling why waste it on low value steroids?

Again, the point is you're not getting a $50 kit of oils shipped this way any more, not that "steroids will be unavailable". That's never been the argument.

Why do you think there are countries that suppliers here will not ship to? It's not an impossible task to make things hard enough it's not worth the effort at the low prices enjoyed today.

Even it's let's say how you say but it would not be. It will be as easy as it's today or how it was 1 year ago.
If it's 3X the price that is today it's still cheap. Look how much everything has increase in price but raws stayed at the same price,hgh got cheaper. Food for example it's double here don't know about US but a bottle of test is like it was 3 years ago.

For example if you take a bottle of test and half a bottle of tren a week and it's 5X the price today it will be around 300$/month. I put this example to see that even if you are a pro it would be still affordable.
Not something to worry about for some recreational users who have a job

 

[Grey Spartan]

Have you seen what it's like trying to get packs from India? One day it was fine, 95%+ success rate, then bam, 4 months ago success rate dropped to under 25% and suddenly everyone's getting love letters. The "two week crackdown then it'll return to normal" turned into a month, then 2, then packs that got through started being recalled AFTER passing customs. The only successful vendors left had to relocate shipping to another country, and that won't last long now that the secret's out. Shipping from India is done.

Again, this is not about it being impossible to buy gear, but returning to market conditions that existed before this huge loophole opened that created a market where $4/vial of Test promos are common. That is, much higher prices and far less variety.

I am not talking about shipping packs from India. I am talking about smuggling. If the point of origin is not the country which is on the "List" things go smoother and are not taxed as much. Example, Cuban cigars. If someone from Cuba sends a pack from Cuba it is looked at more closely than a pack sent from the Bahamas.

I agree with you on all the loopholes closing, but it is not because of some virtue signaling feds trying to crack down on fentanyl. Its about money. Same reason the IRS want's to scrutinize $600 transferred between Venmo.

The Fed crime busters in action

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbDamA9qHlg

 

[bjjgear]

I will keep good stock. However at the same time I am not going to panic buy or be constantly worried about some massive crackdown as that will do no good and just stress you out. If it happens, I will then deal with it.

The guys in this thread still have pallets of toilet paper and bottled water from Februrary 2020.

 

[Ghoul]

I am not talking about shipping packs from India. I am talking about smuggling. If the point of origin is not the country which is on the "List" things go smoother and are not taxed as much. Example, Cuban cigars. If someone from Cuba sends a pack from Cuba it is looked at more closely than a pack sent from the Bahamas.

I agree with you on all the loopholes closing, but it is not because of some virtue signaling feds trying to crack down on fentanyl. Its about money. Same reason the IRS want's to scrutinize $600 transferred between Venmo.

The Fed crime busters in action

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbDamA9qHlg

100% money is the primary driver. Ensuring a shirt is being charged the correct tariff because it has 4 buttons instead of 3 and happening to come across fentanyl, or a machine gun "Glock switch", or steroids, is just a bonus for them.

One of the clever ones elements of the bills waiting to be passed is a new $2 "security fee" per package, which will pay for the massive expansion. of customs to enforce all this stuff, and 100% of the tariffs collected go straight to the treasury.

As it is, I can order things that cost less than $2 from Temu, and have them delivered to my door from China with free shipping.

 

[bigMoJo]

@Ghoul
TLDR I havn't gone through all the recent posts.

When do you estimate these laws will go into effect?