temptation and striving for more.... but health should be the main goal in life

[Tyler81]

I am bumping down my dose to 100 every two weeks. 200 aromatizes to mostly E2 and i want to see if a lower dose will be good for me. If the half life of Test E is let's say 5 days, in 5 days 50mg left in my system 10days 25mgs left. And then i would do another inject on the 12th day (or so....)

The main thing is, i want to minimize aromatization by giving my body a manageable dose. I also function much better are low normal or mid normal levels. Considering i functioned ok at slightly low T levels for YEARS (probably at least three years) it makes logical sense that my body doesnt need very high levels to feel decent. I need low normal or mid normal .... 400-500 is perfect for me.

 

[foreveryoung]

I am oh so surprised you weren't getting 20+ boners a day on 300mg T week. I think you really need to get dialed in with T and E2. The reason I've not started TRT yet is because I can't afford bloods. Without bloods it's just guesswork.

Fuck knows how long it's going to take me to find a job because without one, there is no bloods and without bloods you can't correct any hormonal issues.

I think the whole "test and boners" thing is way overstated, it might work out the first time you ever take test or cycle, or maybe even the second, when you are young, but after that it doesn't matter how much testosterone you take it's just not going to happen like it was when you were 18, I'm sure I could dial in everything with even 600mg of test and there wouldn't be "boners all day", things work ok when there is a girl there stimulating and some viagra to make sure, but it's not going to be like being in highschool ever again in my experience

 

[foreveryoung]

just looked in the mirror and the letrozole makes my body look amazing, much more noticeable effect than the arimidex

 

[foreveryoung]

this letrozole is unbelievable so far, wish I had known before

 

[foreveryoung]

I should update to what my current protocol is for anyone that is interested, the AI part is still being adjusted but so far I am really impressed by the letrozole so might experiment with the dosage of that a little, instead of arimidex

every 6 days 250mg enanthate or cypionate, 75 mg masteron
occasional proviron (lately once a week or so a small dose)
letrozole (did 1.25 mg the other day, not sure exactly how I will dose this, maybe twice a week, not sure on dose yet either, still adjusting/experimenting)
eating very clean healthy diet
working out around 4 times per week

 

[Tyler81]

every 6 days 250mg enanthate or cypionate, 75 mg masteron
occasional proviron (lately once a week or so a small dose)
letrozole (did 1.25 mg the other day, not sure exactly how I will dose this, maybe twice a week, not sure on dose yet either, still adjusting/experimenting)
eating very clean healthy diet
working out around 4 times per week

Quite a high dose of testosterone but i guess that's why the letrozole isnt tanking E2.

Anyway seems ok. Im not gonna judge your protocol anymore as long as it works for you

 

[foreveryoung]

Quite a high dose of testosterone but i guess that's why the letrozole isnt tanking E2.

Anyway seems ok. Im not gonna judge your protocol anymore as long as it works for you

I think I did notice a little better recovery time when I was on around 350mg of test vs the 250, I kind of miss that a bit

 

[foreveryoung]

libido weak this evening, will see what tomorrow brings

 

[foreveryoung]

libido weak this evening, will see what tomorrow brings

funny, 20 minutes after I posted this, I looked at some pics of some hot asian girls and an erection spontaneously came and persisted for a while.... then an hour later I took a proviron and went to bed

this morning have strong morning wood as I type this

libido can drive a person crazy trying to figure out sometimes

 

[bax]

FOryoung, maybe not so great to analyze your libido on a min to min basis as you kinda seem to do. this alone creates stress and makes it seem different than it probably is. Normal healthy people not on TRT can go a day or week w no drive really its perfectly normal. Reading through this thread it seems this protocol is working great for you and your libido is definitely up there. Just think overanalyzing it can cause you to overthink it instead of just letting it happen, just my 2 cents.

 

[foreveryoung]

FOryoung, maybe not so great to analyze your libido on a min to min basis as you kinda seem to do. this alone creates stress and makes it seem different than it probably is. Normal healthy people not on TRT can go a day or week w no drive really its perfectly normal. Reading through this thread it seems this protocol is working great for you and your libido is definitely up there. Just think overanalyzing it can cause you to overthink it instead of just letting it happen, just my 2 cents.

you are right, I guess I won't ever be truly confident unless I get back to the teenage libido I had where all it took to get erect 1000 times a day was a small gust of wind

 

[bax]

Haha don't we all wish we could go back there its def a worthwhile goal I guess but you seem to be functioning at least as good as a guy in his mid 20s which is pretty damn good I'd say.

 

[foreveryoung]

Haha don't we all wish we could go back there its def a worthwhile goal I guess but you seem to be functioning at least as good as a guy in his mid 20s which is pretty damn good I'd say.

function, yes, but "horniness", not even close

 

[foreveryoung]

just had a great workout, strong, feel fantastic

 

[LW64]

you are right, I guess I won't ever be truly confident unless I get back to the teenage libido I had where all it took to get erect 1000 times a day was a small gust of wind

Just had to think about sex and that's all it took.

OTOH, sometimes it seems what you're after is something that takes place even earlier than that. Like when you're sitting in 7th grade English class and you dont want to stand up to read that section of Shakespeare because The Avenger is at full attention...and you were not even thinking about sex at all.

 

[foreveryoung]

Just had to think about sex and that's all it took.

OTOH, sometimes it seems what you're after is something that takes place even earlier than that. Like when you're sitting in 7th grade English class and you dont want to stand up to read that section of Shakespeare because The Avenger is at full attention...and you were not even thinking about sex at all.

yes, that is a good definition of extreme libido, where your libido "demands" attention

 

[foreveryoung]

tyler got me thinking about the herbals again, and I think that a solidly tuned TRT protocol makes for a fantastic base for the herbals to work with and take it to another level

so last night I took 1mg arimidex and a dose of a good herbal libido mix....

this morning my morning wood is very extreme and persisting even as I type this, and libido is stirring higher than in awhile, definitely a synergistic effect, very good

 

[foreveryoung]

still coasting along, haven't taken proviron in awhile

current protocol:
250mg enanthate every 6 or 7 days with 50mg of masteron
arimidex 1/2mg every 2 days or so

function when I use it is quite good, morning wood pretty strong and consistent and this is when I feel the libido "stirring", daytime spontaneous erections none, libido works when I am directly stimulated and concentrating on it, but otherwise no spontaneous libido urgency, workout recovery is good, feel strong and confident, mood pretty good with occasional irritability when someone wrongs me, but pretty good with the mood

 

[foreveryoung]

I noticed I forgot to take my arimidex for a few days, but didn't really notice any estrogen effects.... so I wonder how long it stays in the system and the fact I've been on it for awhile maybe I can get away with less frequent usage, maybe just once a week on injection day?

will see how this goes this week, just injected today and took 1/2mg arimidex

 

[hosama73]

that’s good to observe , because i am in the same case , for the Arimidex i took for 3 weeks then stopped , I’ve noticed some breast pain so i took 1/2 pill every 2 days , and want to know when to stop it