THE new "Generic" HGH Assay PAGE! AAA testing

[rpbb]

Yea and tell me now what you want to "compare" and how such comparisons would effect the accuracy of an assay even big Pharma recognizes as the GOLD STANDARD for GH quantification. Maybe the defect your searching for can be found in the worksheet, chromatographs, raw data or computer analysis?

Or how about I post the emails between myself and the employee assigned to conduct ALL of these assays, who has a MASTERs in Bio-CHEM. Oh heck yea why not also include the Emails bt myself and the labs PHD chairman who also serves as a consultant for two Pharma companies. You have NO IDEA, but Im done being caught between GH consumers and GH resellers.

YOU WANT TESTING DO IT YOURSELF, GOOD LUCK!

you guys want to stir up stuff, go to the other thread. personally, I think the stuff tested out better than I thought it would. and you're not going to convince us otherwise because you guys want to keep yammering.

Now for the last time, go to the other thread, and blather on all you want

 

[muscle96ss]

Yea and tell me now what you want to "compare" and how such comparisons would effect the accuracy of an assay even big Pharma recognizes as the GOLD STANDARD for GH quantification. Maybe the defect your searching for can be found in the worksheet, chromatographs, raw data or computer analysis?

Or how about I post the emails between myself and the employee assigned to conduct ALL of these assays, who has a MASTERs in Bio-CHEM. Oh heck yea why not also include the Emails bt myself and the labs PHD chairman who also serves as a consultant for two Pharma companies. You have NO IDEA, but Im done being caught between GH consumers and GH resellers.

YOU WANT TESTING DO IT YOURSELF, GOOD LUCK!

I would like to see some proof that AAA is the gold standard for GH quantification from pharma companies. I inquired about this earlier but did not get a response. If you look at USP standards for quality control for GH, there is no mention of AAA that I can find. There are a bunch of tests required, but AAA is not on the list. If I am wrong, please direct me to this information.

 

[rpbb]

I would like to see some proof that AAA is the gold standard for GH quantification from pharma companies. I inquired about this earlier but did not get a response. If you look at USP standards for quality control for GH, there is no mention of AAA that I can find. There are a bunch of tests required, but AAA is not on the list. If I am wrong, please direct me to this information.

Just stop it, if you don't like the results, talk about it in the other thread. I don't want this thread turning into another shitstorm

 

[muscle96ss]

Just stop it, if you don't like the results, talk about it in the other thread. I don't want this thread turning into another shitstorm

Talk to your buddy Jim, he is the one that is antagonizing everybody with his usual erroneous statements and bullshit attitude. I don't think anybody minds waiting for the pharma samples. But if people are going to start drawing conclusions and acting holier than thou before there is any evidence of accuracy, then you can't complain when people fire back.

 

[CdnGuy]

Talk to your buddy Jim, he is the one that is antagonizing everybody with his usual erroneous statements and bullshit attitude. I don't think anybody minds waiting for the pharma samples. But if people are going to start drawing conclusions and acting holier than thou before there is any evidence of accuracy, then you can't complain when people fire back.

Antagonizing really man!!! You're one of those dip shits that camped out on their last GH thread! So who's the antagonist again?

 

[muscle96ss]

Antagonizing really man!!! You're one of those dip shits that camped out on their last GH thread! So who's the antagonist again?

Your right, Jim has said nothing antagonistic; fucking moron!!

 

[CdnGuy]

Your right, Jim has said nothing antagonistic; fucking moron!!

Go Cry elsewhere like PM now fuck off...

 

[Platinum Direct]

Im here just waiting on a pharm sample to compare and

 

[G.I. Bro]

Yea and tell me now what you want to "compare" and how such comparisons would effect the accuracy of an assay even big Pharma recognizes as the GOLD STANDARD for GH quantification. Maybe the defect your searching for can be found in the worksheet, chromatographs, raw data or computer analysis?

Or how about I post the emails between myself and the employee assigned to conduct ALL of these assays, who has a MASTERs in Bio-CHEM. Oh heck yea why not also include the Emails bt myself and the labs PHD chairman who also serves as a consultant for two Pharma companies. You have NO IDEA, but Im done being caught between GH consumers and GH resellers.

YOU WANT TESTING DO IT YOURSELF, GOOD LUCK!

Don't be like that Jim. You get so butt hurt. We're all appreciative of the tests. People have some fair questions I think. We all have the same interests. Keep it up, don't throw in the towel on all this yet. One of the best projects I've seen for gh. It's just kind of odd everything seems to be 25% under, consistently, across the board.

 

[Dr JIM]

Have you bothered to make a similar comparisons to the results cited on the Anabolic Labs threads, utterly ridiculous.

ANYONE can make note of
such similarities or differences from a statical perspective but so what else is new.

As Millard has opined; the results are what they are take them or leave them, I could care less.

You and others want assays great do them yourself bc this has become an absolute waste of my time, enjoy

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

In addition the factory that the grey tops are produced in is regulated and audited by the government and would be taking a huge risk by underdosing their GH.

They would also be taking a huge risk by diverting their GH to the black market. And yet they still do. One might speculate as to the reason...

 

[muscle96ss]

They would also be taking a huge risk by diverting their GH to the black market. And yet they still do. One might speculate as to the reason...

You are correct, they are taking a huge risk! If they would get caught, the penalties are quite severe over there. But what you gotta understand is that they can't short change the vials and not get caught; there isn't really any way around it. And you can see with the testing results of the greys you did, they are damn consistent.

 

[Dr JIM]

Im here just waiting on a pharm sample to compare and

And you wouldn't know how to use the results, whether high or low, bc you believe Pharma is the most reliable standard and YOU ARE WRONG !

 

[Sampei]

Have you bothered to make a similar comparisons to the results cited on the Anabolic Labs threads, utterly ridiculous.

ANYONE can make note of
such similarities or differences from a statical perspective but so what else is new.

As Millard has opined; the results are what they are take them or leave them, I could care less.

Please Jim leave anaboliclab out of this. Especially because your comparison makes no sense.

Millard results come from an accredited lab that ANYONE can contact and get proof/confirmation of the results, plus it's a lab that as all the accreditation to operate on a national/international level.

Your lab instead is unknown. It's probably super legit and even more then simec, it probably has even more accreditation of simec BUT we ppl can't confirm it. We need to take your words for if. Do you see the difference there?

I'm not suggesting that you are a fraud or anything, just don't compare what you are doing to anaboliclab. Their results are nothing like yours.

 

[Dr JIM]

Antagonizing really man!!! You're one of those dip shits that camped out on their last GH thread! So who's the antagonist again?

A quick search reveals there only ONE (pseudo) Meso member" who meets those all of those criteria MH-96!

At least when it comes to generic GH, the guy is the epitome of bias and anyone who believes otherwise, is either BLIND or a FOOL!

Better divert those GH samples thru MH96 BEFORE being sent to Jane for safe keeping.

Quack quack awaiting the little PM ducklings lol.

Just ANOTHER reason it's time for Meso members to do their OWN testing.

 

[janoshik]

Standards are the control. To show the accuracy of testing. They are real hgh

No, no, no, not at all, even though JIM likes this it is not true. Just take a look on the sheets of so called 'standards'

Yep, pretty close to that. Under dosed but consistently under dosed which implies it's intentional. So purposely shorted to make that extra dollar off us I suppose. That's the cost of buying generics. Hell generic drugs are allowed to be under dosed anyway. Everything from generic Advil to Pepto is typically dosed below label brand stuff by a small amount.

Not true again.

Look at the standard. That is the control.

See up. This 'standard' has about as much to do with HGH as my breakfast had.

READ MY LIPS ONE MORE TIME YOU UGLS want testing do it yourself!

I'm done footing the bill, and taking the heat for "unexpected" or "unexplained" results GOT IT!

Great idea! *whistling quietly*

A pharm sample will tell how accurate these results are. The brands that overlap the tests we did over at PM came back with different results. The results here are all roughly 25% off of what we got as well as what other tests performed in other scenarios got. In addition the factory that the grey tops are produced in is regulated and audited by the government and would be taking a huge risk by underdosing their GH. So, when it comes to common sense and logic, anybody who does not think that you need a test of a known substance(i.e. pharm grade) is being completely naive and buying into Jim's rhetoric.

Completely agree with this, as this is simply the truth (disregarding the part about the factory, as I have no factual evidence about that, so I don't really have an opinion).

Yea and tell me now what you want to "compare" and how such comparisons would effect the accuracy of an assay even big Pharma recognizes as the GOLD STANDARD for GH quantification. Maybe the defect your searching for can be found in the worksheet, chromatographs, raw data or computer analysis?

Or how about I post the emails between myself and the employee assigned to conduct ALL of these assays, who has a MASTERs in Bio-CHEM. Oh heck yea why not also include the Emails bt myself and the labs PHD chairman who also serves as a consultant for two Pharma companies. You have NO IDEA, but Im done being caught between GH consumers and GH resellers.

YOU WANT TESTING DO IT YOURSELF, GOOD LUCK!

It does not. Where exactly do you see AAA used for example in the Pharmacopoeia, the single most important document of 'BIG PHARMA.' Please, feel free to point that out for me - to help you out I have attached the part of the Pharmacopoeia regarding HGH.

I can't really see anything but chromatography and electrophoresis being used there.

Also, waving around with only masters? Pfft.

A quick search reveals there only ONE (pseudo) Meso member" who meets those all of those criteria MH-96!

At least when it comes to generic GH, the guy is the epitome of bias and anyone who believes otherwise, is either BLIND or a FOOL!

Better divert those GH samples thru MH96 BEFORE being sent to Jane for safe keeping.

Quack quack awaiting the little PM ducklings lol.

Just ANOTHER reason it's time for Meso members to do their OWN testing.

Quoting him on some 'biased' posts might be of help to some of us blind fools - you know, just like I did quote you when I called you out ("Generic" GH ASSAYS Feel free to inspire yourself, sir.)

Also, it was not him sending off the samples to me, but you enjoy throwing shit even if it means outright lying, don't you?

 

[rpbb]

so the boys from PM don't like the test results. TOO FUCKING BAD. go back to pm. I knew you guys would stir up a shitstorm if you didn't like the results,and here we are.

I'll say it for the last time, if you don't like the thread, don't like the testing, don't like the results, and don't like Dr J, get the fuck out now.

Mands and Dr J are doing this board a valuable service, and I personally appreciate it. If you guys want to start testing stuff, and sharing the results, go start your own thread

 

[Just Fish]

The FDA's criterion for bioequivalence is set at a 20 percent difference. A 20 percent difference is allowed in how the drug is absorbed, distributed, cleared from the system, interactions and other pharmacokinetics between a brand name and generic. Binders, fillers and excipients are used to carry the medicine, shape the pill or tablet and control how the drug is released into the body. In the past, many excipients that were previously thought to be biologically inert may actually impact the drug's bioavailability. Generics can use whichever combination of excipients that may or may not be the same as the brand drug. Generic drugs do not undergo the same intensive testing among many thousands of patients and different patient populations (young, old, male, female, etc.). Generic manufacturers are only required to test for bioequivalency, a measurement to determine that the generic drug is delivered in the same approximate amount and rate as the name brand drug.

 

[janoshik]

Don't get too upset rpbb, it's bad for your health in the long run, boy.

 

[Just Fish]

so the boys from PM don't like the test results. TOO FUCKING BAD. go back to pm. I knew you guys would stir up a shitstorm if you didn't like the results,and here we are.

I'll say it for the last time, if you don't like the thread, don't like the testing, don't like the results, and don't like Dr J, get the fuck out now.

Mands and Dr J are doing this board a valuable service, and I personally appreciate it. If you guys want to start testing stuff, and sharing the results, go start your own thread

You guys at pm are welcome to do your own testing as Dr J stated. It will only help both communities.