Have you checked what an average purity level would be for, say, pharmacy grade test prop in 0.7ml oil using that assumption? In my head and ignoring the BA and BB I get less than 14%, and yours was reportedly double that.
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Have you checked what an average purity level would be for, say, pharmacy grade test prop in 0.7ml oil using that assumption? In my head and ignoring the BA and BB I get less than 14%, and yours was reportedly double that.
I hope all the brain dead people still buy all your products .. so your telling me a ugl shouldnt have 250mg per ml if that's what the bottle says? Only pharma can produce rightfully dosed products ? Lol yes if a ugl has no quality control they will not be able to produce rightfully dosed gear which clearly you can't .. all the ugl test iv bought that tests good must all be pharma test nice
http://www.eroids.com/forum/general/general-talk/mass-spec-explainedsleight-of-hand-exposed
this is for titan and anyone else interested. it explains how the tests that were done work. its a spectrum test and does not take into account oils or solvents.it calculates the powder purity.
The test i believe you are thinking about is a column test. it calculates active ingredient purity. so there may be 39% test e, but the little test that is there is 100% purity, it isolates and ignores the cutters the same way as oil and solvents. its no more useful than ecstacy data or labmax but its not the test we recieve anyway. that is the type of test you always see in factory coa and they are a sham. that's why you always see 98-104% purity but when we do our mass specs they are usually 65-85% purity score. its a good and important read though, i don't know how to do a hyperlink and don't think i could from my device.
this is for titan and anyone else interested. it explains how the tests that were done work. its a spectrum test and does not take into account oils or solvents.it calculates the powder purity.
The test i believe you are thinking about is a column test. it calculates active ingredient purity. so there may be 39% test e, but the little test that is there is 100% purity, it isolates and ignores the cutters the same way as oil and solvents. its no more useful than ecstacy data or labmax but its not the test we recieve anyway. that is the type of test you always see in factory coa and they are a sham. that's why you always see 98-104% purity but when we do our mass specs they are usually 65-85% purity score. its a good and important read though, i don't know how to do a hyperlink and don't think i could from my device.
whitefang
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What do you mean by 1:2 ratio? For every test e or prop they orderd they get two cyp?
This is a quote I got from angus on this test
"Yes, if the results of the test are 202mg/ml then that is the active content of the sample. I am not getting involved with any more arguments, especially on meso. I don't mind answering your questions but my days of fighting with people are over."
So what does this mean?
On the test e, there is 202mg of test e in each ml. So at 68% purity that means titan used 297mg/ml of powder to achieve that concentration.
On the test p there is 79mg of test p in each ml. But at only 29% purity he had to use 272mg of powder per ml to achieve that results. My ass hurts just thinking about the pip because of that. Couldn't pay me to shoot that.
For the var take the percentage of purity and mutiple by the total weight of the pill. One member did the calcs already weighing like 10 pills and averaging. Bottom line is there is about 6mg of var in each pill.
In the end titan needs to stop stalling and fix this situation by making everyone whole. Imo the test e is a decent result but that is just my opinion. The var and prop on the other handle are horrible. The var is usable but you are gonna need a lot more.
In a normal situation when ms test is done lightspan is 100% correct and his method was how I was taught to analyze the test when in school. But the lab angus uses does the math for you. I wish we knew this info on the other mass specs.
"Yes, if the results of the test are 202mg/ml then that is the active content of the sample. I am not getting involved with any more arguments, especially on meso. I don't mind answering your questions but my days of fighting with people are over."
So what does this mean?
On the test e, there is 202mg of test e in each ml. So at 68% purity that means titan used 297mg/ml of powder to achieve that concentration.
On the test p there is 79mg of test p in each ml. But at only 29% purity he had to use 272mg of powder per ml to achieve that results. My ass hurts just thinking about the pip because of that. Couldn't pay me to shoot that.
For the var take the percentage of purity and mutiple by the total weight of the pill. One member did the calcs already weighing like 10 pills and averaging. Bottom line is there is about 6mg of var in each pill.
In the end titan needs to stop stalling and fix this situation by making everyone whole. Imo the test e is a decent result but that is just my opinion. The var and prop on the other handle are horrible. The var is usable but you are gonna need a lot more.
In a normal situation when ms test is done lightspan is 100% correct and his method was how I was taught to analyze the test when in school. But the lab angus uses does the math for you. I wish we knew this info on the other mass specs.
Angus will not come here but anyone is more then welcome to pm him on eroids and verify this.
big boi
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Thank goodness titan is finished. Come on guys this guy gets bo more chances he is a retard LS proved that. So lets boot this source n move on
Why would you boot a source that is trying to make things right?
vivame
New Member
He seems to be trying to fix his mistakes. This doesn't mean he will not have problems in the future, but he could have just ignored this or told us to fuck off. Hopefully he will learn from this and test his shit before selling it. We'll see what ends up happening, and I'm sure his sales will take a big hit from this for sure.
Perhaps I'm being too nice and naive but I'm guessing a decent amount of UGLs, if in this same situation, would have just ignored it or changed names.
Also, @Titanlabs can you please answer this question:
@vivame on evo he said he was gonna change gis name cause he claims there 2 different TL also this board is split on whether TL is a fraud or not personally I say NO he's not cause he is trying to make things right I think he should change raw supplier and do some test before making anymore gear
I guess i have a problem with any business trying to make things right. Fuck him. Pick your analogy -food, car care, whatever. If you fuck it up i'm moving on.
If we did this as a community it would at least be a pain in the ass to the shady sources. They would either spend more time trying to run a more professional business or they would spend time reinventing themselves. Couple that with only purchasing from solid sources who have a proven track record in testing and i think we will have accomplished all we can on our end.
Punish the flakes by not purchasing from them. Make them reinvent themselves and start the process over again at least. A few people can place test orders, get the labmax results back and perhaps a bit more, then we can move forward. At least test the water out slowly before diving in headfirst to find out the pool is empty. A lot of guys are just bending over and asking to take it in the ass and it is painful to watch.
If we did this as a community it would at least be a pain in the ass to the shady sources. They would either spend more time trying to run a more professional business or they would spend time reinventing themselves. Couple that with only purchasing from solid sources who have a proven track record in testing and i think we will have accomplished all we can on our end.
Punish the flakes by not purchasing from them. Make them reinvent themselves and start the process over again at least. A few people can place test orders, get the labmax results back and perhaps a bit more, then we can move forward. At least test the water out slowly before diving in headfirst to find out the pool is empty. A lot of guys are just bending over and asking to take it in the ass and it is painful to watch.
ruckin
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I got up to page 24 of this thread and couldn't do it anymore, had to skip to the last page here. What i've gathered is that titan's geat is underdosed as of now.
Someone correct me if i'm wrong please
Someone correct me if i'm wrong please
Johnson513
New Member
Correct
After talking with customers via email and a few other people, we are going to replace the TP and OA. TE at 81% claim is a problem but not out of industry standard.
IMO there is still an issue with the tests being done. I do believe the prop at 76mg/ml active is correct based on customers results. However, no one that knows anything about brewing would ever try and brew prop at 240mg/ml even in straight EO. Even if it held, it would be unusable because of PIP. So saying we tried to brew it at that expecting 40% purity sounds ridiculous.
Regardless, those items will be replaced. Customers have until friday to email us regarding these problems or any others and they will be addressed.
All of that said, my plan was to switch suppliers and stick to private sourcing as I have done before. We do, obviously have new and old batches of product still and people that have seen the tests are still wanting to purchase them (mostly guys who have used them). So, we will allow orders for those who have seen the tests and are aware of active content and make price adjustments as needed if anyone does want to purchase them.
TL
IMO there is still an issue with the tests being done. I do believe the prop at 76mg/ml active is correct based on customers results. However, no one that knows anything about brewing would ever try and brew prop at 240mg/ml even in straight EO. Even if it held, it would be unusable because of PIP. So saying we tried to brew it at that expecting 40% purity sounds ridiculous.
Regardless, those items will be replaced. Customers have until friday to email us regarding these problems or any others and they will be addressed.
All of that said, my plan was to switch suppliers and stick to private sourcing as I have done before. We do, obviously have new and old batches of product still and people that have seen the tests are still wanting to purchase them (mostly guys who have used them). So, we will allow orders for those who have seen the tests and are aware of active content and make price adjustments as needed if anyone does want to purchase them.
TL
vivame
New Member
So basically if you bought 5 bottles of TE you only received 4. So it's like the opposite of a sale.
Its a buy 1 get -2 sale!!!
The tests must be wrong since supposedly people are still ordering the old batch.....one can't argue with that logic 
Well TL is trying to make things right now the waiting game wait for his new supplier then wait for new batches then wait for the homebrew then wait for the OK to order then wait for one to order and wait for the gear to arrive and wait for that person run labmax or MS and wait for the results that's a lot of waiting
Trw008
New Member
It's a dick move but he's actually telling the truth about 200 mg/ml being good for ugls. As people have stated dont buy ugl and expect pharma , which means don't expect 250 mg when it's labeled 250 mg, which s why us ugl users run close to a gram a week a lot.
I would personally never buy from this guy so I'm not defending him I'm just saying have realistic expectations with ugls. And I'm only saying that with his test e the prop and oa are not acceptable.
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