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Anabolic Steroids

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someone weighed a lot of the var tabs and came to an average weight per pill i am looking for the number right now but cant find it
 
Gettinbigger76 said:
Don't jump to conclusions boys, let his phd friend see it first, without that your results apparently mean nothing!!!
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i'm generally not one to whip it out, folks, but let me be clear on this . i have PhD is synthetic organic chemistry, and used mass spec for 4 years in grad school. titan, stop playing fucking games. is the TIC method for calculating purity foolproof? no. is it relatively accurate, yes. and funny enough, it matches up spot on with my bloodwork, again, based on the opinion of a world-renowned AAS medical specialist, @Michael Scally MD . So what is it now? my bloodwork is actually ok? the mass spec is wrong? and scally is a retard?

I believe you dosed your shit with better than 250 mg of "powder." what you fail to understand is that if the "powder" is not soluble in chloroform, i.e., it is filler or shit, it will not dissolve in said chloroform, wont make it into the instrument, and will not show up in the "total concentration."

the total solids that did dissolve in the chloroform is 202 mg. the rest is garbage, which may be soluble in a nice soup of GSO, BA, and BB, a combination designed to solubilize just about any organic compound, particularly anabolic steroids, which are notoriously insoluble. but what the fuck do i know. my phd is from the university of Bangladesh school of chemistry, hair care and tire repair.

i am out the $$$ for testing, the shit i bought from titan, and for the multiple labmaxes i did. my 0.02, time to call it a VERY expensive mistake. i jumped early to do my part for the board. i did my part. take home message:

caveat emptor
 
lightspan said:
i'm generally not one to whip it out, folks, but let me be clear on this . i have PhD is synthetic organic chemistry, and used mass spec for 4 years in grad school. titan, stop playing fucking games. is the TIC method for calculating purity foolproof? no. is it relatively accurate, yes. and funny enough, it matches up spot on with my bloodwork, again, based on the opinion of a world-renowned AAS medical specialist, @Michael Scally MD . So what is it now? my bloodwork is actually ok? the mass spec is wrong? and scally is a retard?

I believe you dosed your shit with better than 250 mg of "powder." what you fail to understand is that if the "powder" is not soluble in chloroform, i.e., it is filler or shit, it will not dissolve in said chloroform, wont make it into the instrument, and will not show up in the "total concentration."

the total solids that did dissolve in the chloroform is 202 mg. the rest is garbage, which may be soluble in a nice soup of GSO, BA, and BB, a combination designed to solubilize just about any organic compound, particularly anabolic steroids, which are notoriously insoluble. but what the fuck do i know. my phd is from the university of Bangladesh school of chemistry, hair care and tire repair.

i am out the $$$ for testing, the shit i bought from titan, and for the multiple labmaxes i did. my 0.02, time to call it a VERY expensive mistake. i jumped early to do my part for the board. i did my part. take home message:

caveat emptor
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You are one knowledgeable mofo LS!
 
Titanlabs said:
Havent gotten to all emails tonight. The last round of packs went out today, ship confirmations will be sent tomorrow.

The replacement of products was pending a clear reading and understanding of the MS...I had someone with a PhD in chem read them today and this is what she said...

"Ok...


It looks like the purity is being calculated from intensities or peak areas. On p.5 there are three chromatograms, the top is an extracted ion chromatogram of the 2M+1 peak. The middle is an extracted ion chromatogram of the M+1 peak and the bottom is the total ion chromatogram. There are two numbers at the top right of each chromatogram. The first is the extracted mass and the second could either be intensities or peak areas. Normally this number is intensity and since they don't specify I would assume it's intensity. They are saying purity= ((intensity M+1)+[(intensity 2M+1)])/[(intensity TIC)+(area 2M+1)]. I guess they are wanting to know the purity based on the M+1 peak.


As for the concentration, they must be comparing this to a standard. You can't just inject something and get a concentration. You would inject a known concentration and compare the peak area of your unknown concentration to the peak area of the known concentration. So it seems like some information is missing to be able to do that calculation based on the pdf you sent. The purity calculation is not taking anything into account other than the intensities from the chromatograms. The purity and concentration calculations should be independent of each other."

So as of now I think the data is incomplete as it stands based on that read. Im going to look into it more and if the way it is being interpreted by meso members is correct, then we will ship out the replacements.

Ill go over some things and update tomorrow.

TL
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lightspan said:
i'm generally not one to whip it out, folks, but let me be clear on this . i have PhD is synthetic organic chemistry, and used mass spec for 4 years in grad school. titan, stop playing fucking games. is the TIC method for calculating purity foolproof? no. is it relatively accurate, yes. and funny enough, it matches up spot on with my bloodwork, again, based on the opinion of a world-renowned AAS medical specialist, @Michael Scally MD . So what is it now? my bloodwork is actually ok? the mass spec is wrong? and scally is a retard?

I believe you dosed your shit with better than 250 mg of "powder." what you fail to understand is that if the "powder" is not soluble in chloroform, i.e., it is filler or shit, it will not dissolve in said chloroform, wont make it into the instrument, and will not show up in the "total concentration."

the total solids that did dissolve in the chloroform is 202 mg. the rest is garbage, which may be soluble in a nice soup of GSO, BA, and BB, a combination designed to solubilize just about any organic compound, particularly anabolic steroids, which are notoriously insoluble. but what the fuck do i know. my phd is from the university of Bangladesh school of chemistry, hair care and tire repair.

i am out the $$$ for testing, the shit i bought from titan, and for the multiple labmaxes i did. my 0.02, time to call it a VERY expensive mistake. i jumped early to do my part for the board. i did my part. take home message:

caveat emptor
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Well there you go TL @Titanlabs ...My boy's PhD is bigger than your girls phD !! So, na,na,na,na,na,na (as sung like a 5yr old)
 
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lightspan said:
i'm generally not one to whip it out, folks, but let me be clear on this . i have PhD is synthetic organic chemistry, and used mass spec for 4 years in grad school. titan, stop playing fucking games. is the TIC method for calculating purity foolproof? no. is it relatively accurate, yes. and funny enough, it matches up spot on with my bloodwork, again, based on the opinion of a world-renowned AAS medical specialist, @Michael Scally MD . So what is it now? my bloodwork is actually ok? the mass spec is wrong? and scally is a retard?

I believe you dosed your shit with better than 250 mg of "powder." what you fail to understand is that if the "powder" is not soluble in chloroform, i.e., it is filler or shit, it will not dissolve in said chloroform, wont make it into the instrument, and will not show up in the "total concentration."

the total solids that did dissolve in the chloroform is 202 mg. the rest is garbage, which may be soluble in a nice soup of GSO, BA, and BB, a combination designed to solubilize just about any organic compound, particularly anabolic steroids, which are notoriously insoluble. but what the fuck do i know. my phd is from the university of Bangladesh school of chemistry, hair care and tire repair.

i am out the $$$ for testing, the shit i bought from titan, and for the multiple labmaxes i did. my 0.02, time to call it a VERY expensive mistake. i jumped early to do my part for the board. i did my part. take home message:

caveat emptor
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My dick got bigger just from reading that. Bravo.
 
lightspan said:
i'm generally not one to whip it out, folks, but let me be clear on this . i have PhD is synthetic organic chemistry, and used mass spec for 4 years in grad school. titan, stop playing fucking games. is the TIC method for calculating purity foolproof? no. is it relatively accurate, yes. and funny enough, it matches up spot on with my bloodwork, again, based on the opinion of a world-renowned AAS medical specialist, @Michael Scally MD . So what is it now? my bloodwork is actually ok? the mass spec is wrong? and scally is a retard?

I believe you dosed your shit with better than 250 mg of "powder." what you fail to understand is that if the "powder" is not soluble in chloroform, i.e., it is filler or shit, it will not dissolve in said chloroform, wont make it into the instrument, and will not show up in the "total concentration."

the total solids that did dissolve in the chloroform is 202 mg. the rest is garbage, which may be soluble in a nice soup of GSO, BA, and BB, a combination designed to solubilize just about any organic compound, particularly anabolic steroids, which are notoriously insoluble. but what the fuck do i know. my phd is from the university of Bangladesh school of chemistry, hair care and tire repair.

i am out the $$$ for testing, the shit i bought from titan, and for the multiple labmaxes i did. my 0.02, time to call it a VERY expensive mistake. i jumped early to do my part for the board. i did my part. take home message:

caveat emptor
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Mine dick just got smaller from reading that.....
Oh wait it's not from reading that, its from this crap anavar and test e TL is slinging

Talk about wasted cycles

Make this right TL, though I doubt that'll happen
 
bickel29 said:
Maybe for those of you who are unhappy with your Titanic Labs cycles (yes, pun intended), you can hit up that OTHER Titan Labs on the other board?
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Options:
A. Rob the pharmacy
B. Brew your own (intentionaly overdosed) gear
C. Keep crying about everybody selling underdosed/bunk shit
 
lightspan said:
i'm generally not one to whip it out, folks, but let me be clear on this . i have PhD is synthetic organic chemistry, and used mass spec for 4 years in grad school. titan, stop playing fucking games. is the TIC method for calculating purity foolproof? no. is it relatively accurate, yes. and funny enough, it matches up spot on with my bloodwork, again, based on the opinion of a world-renowned AAS medical specialist, @Michael Scally MD . So what is it now? my bloodwork is actually ok? the mass spec is wrong? and scally is a retard?

I believe you dosed your shit with better than 250 mg of "powder." what you fail to understand is that if the "powder" is not soluble in chloroform, i.e., it is filler or shit, it will not dissolve in said chloroform, wont make it into the instrument, and will not show up in the "total concentration."

the total solids that did dissolve in the chloroform is 202 mg. the rest is garbage, which may be soluble in a nice soup of GSO, BA, and BB, a combination designed to solubilize just about any organic compound, particularly anabolic steroids, which are notoriously insoluble. but what the fuck do i know. my phd is from the university of Bangladesh school of chemistry, hair care and tire repair.

i am out the $$$ for testing, the shit i bought from titan, and for the multiple labmaxes i did. my 0.02, time to call it a VERY expensive mistake. i jumped early to do my part for the board. i did my part. take home message:

caveat emptor
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I knew it. Or I figured your dad was a chemist and you were home schooled.
 
Here is where I am at.

From multiple interpretations I have received from members and outside sources, I believe the 202mg/ml and the 76mg/ml on the E and prop are the concentration of active hormone while the purity is taking into account oil and solvents.

This also lines up with other blood work results posted on this forum.

That being said, I dont have an issue replacing the anavar. So as of now and based on a few member recommendations/emails on what would be fair we will replace the TE and TP at a 1:2 ratio with an equivalent amount of TC. The anavar will be replaced completely with a new batch which is about all we can do for it.

I also want to note that, as has been stated many times, emails not using codes for AAS compounds will not be responded to.

TL
 
Lol so half dosed test you replace 1:2 with test c you haven't mass speced or tested? Feel sorry for people who bought from you .. they had to test your product to find out it was underdosed and your not gonna completely replace it after you still had people buy test E after LS blood work cause you thought his results were in range not half of what they should be ..
 
flenser said:
@Titanlabs So you're telling us you put 2.5 times the required amount of powder in the TP? You expected what you were selling to be 40% pure? Brilliant...
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No, Im saying that I believe (according to the multiple readings Ive had people do and the PMs and emails form members corroborating them) that the concentration numbers are the amount of active hormone and the purity numbers are taking into account oil and solvents.

I have been trying to get in touch with angus to obtain some missing info not in the PDFs but have had no luck so far.

vvegas said:
Lol so half dosed test you replace 1:2 with test c you haven't mass speced or tested? Feel sorry for people who bought from you .. they had to test your product to find out it was underdosed and your not gonna completely replace it after you still had people buy test E after LS blood work cause you thought his results were in range not half of what they should be ..
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So far no one has offered other blood work to that shows they are half the range they should be. However they have been on par with a lot of other bloods online.

Someone just posted bloods from astro that line up almost exactly with LS bloods...so if nothing else then its following an industry standard. Comparing pharm grade to an underground market is more than a little unrealistic with any product, not just AAS.

202mg/ml would make it 81% dose not 50%. Ive had more than several emails/PMs from multiple customers saying, for various reasons, why they believe the 202mg/ml to be the active hormone concentration.
 
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