Titan Labs

[Gettinbigger76]

"I think the results are still somewhat unclear but we have decided to pull mast from our product list until we can contact our manufacturer and further test the product."



Remember the Mast E/Mast P fuck up??

Again he claims inconclusive, but coincidentally enough "him and his partner had decided to pull it from their list" after they sold out of the thousands" they had on their shelves..

Translation: We hardly have any left and just got called out, so we won't make anymore.....

I for one, never ordered from him, but I actually believed his bs on the beginning. Chalk it up to naivety....

He should fuckin burn with all his excuses and double talk... Just the fact that he still sells here proves that he has zero respect for us and thinks we're fuckin morons...

I want to address an issue that has come up. You have correctly stated you never have ordered from us.
Obviously there are a lot of people who have.
What is Meso for? Is one of the reasons to allow people to give their input and personal experience on a lab? Small example but people here are on a witch hunt criticizing anyone's opinion who has any good comments to say about our lab. I have had well over a dozen people pm and email me saying great things and they would mention it on the board except for the fact they would be burned and their reputation ruined simply because they had positive feedback of a personal experience. Your creating a board where the only word that matters is a negative one and no other opinion is valid.

We pulled mast p/e because of the testing. Very few people bought it before a labmax was conducted that was hard to read, and in light of that, it was pulled from the shelf.
We could have continued to sell it, but we did not.

Yes we will continue to sell. You have no personal experience with our lab and are basing your assumptions off of the feedback here which will be negative because any positive feedback is considered to come from a shill or rep. That is what this board is becoming.

I believe everyone should have an opinion whether that good or bad, and not be judged on it.

Yes we believe a few tests to be inclonclusive, but in the end that doesn't matter because we always have removed, repriced, or reimbursed despite what we believe because it is the customers opinion that matters.

We have been respectful of everyone on this board and done our best to fix any mishap within our power.[/QUOTE]

I was one of the few actually pulling for you. Stop with the "witchhunt" crybaby shit. You created your negative image and no one else.

"Yes, we believe a few tests to be inconclusive"
Yeah, every test hat says your gear is bunk. Shocker....
And the only reason you decided too pull it is because you got called out, otherwise you'd still be selling it. Like YOU said, it's not like mislabeling Test for Mast.
You have been anything but respectful, just because you've been polite with your words, you've essentially been telling everyone to go fuck themselves with your actions... You are a wolf in sheeps clothing and I see right through your transparent ass. You think you've written some polite, cordial mission statement. You're a fraud

 

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[Big_paul]

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Sometimes it would be in order when we consider sources who post here.

What incentive is there to not run a scam when you can make 5 g's before everyone catches on.

 

[jackmeoff1]

I have no bone in this fight but I do have some experience in the UGL game and just a few observations:

1) I have yet to see a mass spec on a single UGL test at 90+%. A guy on another forum I frequent posted data of a lab that does mass spec. The majority of UGL's tested between 70-80% for testosterone and trenbolone and a much lower for just about every other compound. Less than 1% of UGL tested were over 90%. Compounds like Masterone were commonly under dosed by 50-60%.

2) I have been following this thread and from what I gather someone ran bloods that showed TL test cyp underdosed by about 25%, which is actually on par with other UGL's, a mass spec showed it 50% under dosed which is up for debate (judging by the blood work 25% looked accurate).

3) The dude went out of his way to make up for the 25% which is fucking unheard of from a UGL.

4) People who couldn't follow ordering instructions didn't get replacement and are blaming him for that.

5) Out of all the people who ran his gear ONE person got an infection. I am sorry about that and it sucks but a single incident is hardly a representation of quality. Seems like an individual issue.

6) TL showed another Mass spec on testosteron showing it 100% purity which does seem skeptical to me.

7) I have never used TL but I use a UGL who uses the same raws and I have tons of bloods from myself and friends to show that it is very "close" to being on par with my pharma prescribed TRT.

I know I will take flac for this but a lot of people on this forum are out of your minds. You expect pharma grade product at UGL prices and customer service as if you are ordering panty hose from Amazon dot com. I feel bad that many of you will NEVER land on a decent source with this attitude that you have. Ever. What's worse is that you ruin it on others who frequent this board. I have ordered from about a dozen different UGL's and have blood work with about half of them. Have my blood tests came in under the phara grade test that I pay 5x the price for? YEP. Do I get my boxers in a bunch over it? NOPE. I can tell Tren potency by side effects and yes it varies "slightly" from lab to lab but as a whole I can always land on the dose to get the job done.

 

[element00]

I have no bone in this fight but I do have some experience in the UGL game and just a few observations:

1) I have yet to see a mass spec on a single UGL test at 90+%. A guy on another forum I frequent posted data of a lab that does mass spec. The majority of UGL's tested between 70-80% for testosterone and trenbolone and a much lower for just about every other compound. Less than 1% of UGL tested were over 90%. Compounds like Masterone were commonly under dosed by 50-60%.

2) I have been following this thread and from what I gather someone ran bloods that showed TL test cyp underdosed by about 25%, which is actually on par with other UGL's, a mass spec showed it 50% under dosed which is up for debate (judging by the blood work 25% looked accurate).

3) The dude went out of his way to make up for the 25% which is fucking unheard of from a UGL.

4) People who couldn't follow ordering instructions didn't get replacement and are blaming him for that.

5) Out of all the people who ran his gear ONE person got an infection. I am sorry about that and it sucks but a single incident is hardly a representation of quality. Seems like an individual issue.

6) TL showed another Mass spec on testosteron showing it 100% purity which does seem skeptical to me.

7) I have never used TL but I use a UGL who uses the same raws and I have tons of bloods from myself and friends to show that it is very "close" to being on par with my pharma prescribed TRT.

I know I will take flac for this but a lot of people on this forum are out of your minds. You expect pharma grade product at UGL prices and customer service as if you are ordering panty hose from Amazon dot com. I feel bad that many of you will NEVER land on a decent source with this attitude that you have. Ever. What's worse is that you ruin it on others who frequent this board. I have ordered from about a dozen different UGL's and have blood work with about half of them. Have my blood tests came in under the phara grade test that I pay 5x the price for? YEP. Do I get my boxers in a bunch over it? NOPE. I can tell Tren potency by side effects and yes it varies "slightly" from lab to lab but as a whole I can always land on the dose to get the job done.

So people will only land a good source if they have what sort of attitude?

 

[Colt44]

"I think the results are still somewhat unclear but we have decided to pull mast from our product list until we can contact our manufacturer and further test the product."



Remember the Mast E/Mast P fuck up??

Again he claims inconclusive, but coincidentally enough "him and his partner had decided to pull it from their list" after they sold out of the thousands" they had on their shelves..

Translation: We hardly have any left and just got called out, so we won't make anymore.....

I for one, never ordered from him, but I actually believed his bs on the beginning. Chalk it up to naivety....

He should fuckin burn with all his excuses and double talk... Just the fact that he still sells here proves that he has zero respect for us and thinks we're fuckin morons...

I want to address an issue that has come up. You have correctly stated you never have ordered from us.
Obviously there are a lot of people who have.
What is Meso for? Is one of the reasons to allow people to give their input and personal experience on a lab? Small example but people here are on a witch hunt criticizing anyone's opinion who has any good comments to say about our lab. I have had well over a dozen people pm and email me saying great things and they would mention it on the board except for the fact they would be burned and their reputation ruined simply because they had positive feedback of a personal experience. Your creating a board where the only word that matters is a negative one and no other opinion is valid.

We pulled mast p/e because of the testing. Very few people bought it before a labmax was conducted that was hard to read, and in light of that, it was pulled from the shelf.
We could have continued to sell it, but we did not.

Yes we will continue to sell. You have no personal experience with our lab and are basing your assumptions off of the feedback here which will be negative because any positive feedback is considered to come from a shill or rep. That is what this board is becoming.

I believe everyone should have an opinion whether that good or bad, and not be judged on it.

Yes we believe a few tests to be inclonclusive, but in the end that doesn't matter because we always have removed, repriced, or reimbursed despite what we believe because it is the customers opinion that matters.

We have been respectful of everyone on this board and done our best to fix any mishap within our power.[/QUOTE]

In case you haven't noticed, this board only accepts fact based reviews. If these dozens of customers post with nothing more than "Titans gear is great!", with their first post and don't include blood work, labmax, or MS, they'll definitely be met with criticism. Would you accept a review and refund me if I told you I didn't feel the effects of your gear? You hardly refunded or resent gear when it was proven to be shit. Yet you expect us to just accept these kind words from strangers and pat you on the back for a job well done.

You've shown your inexperience and blatant disregard for your customers every step of the way. The mistakes that have been made are no one's fault but your own. Your excuses are tired.

Don't pretend you know what this board is or isn't becoming. This thread is the only part of it you give a damn about. Don't let our concern for each other affect your bottom line either. Just stick to what you know, putting out shit gear and pointing fingers.

Keep talking shit about Meso and see where that gets you.

 

[Gettinbigger76]

I have no bone in this fight but I do have some experience in the UGL game and just a few observations:

1) I have yet to see a mass spec on a single UGL test at 90+%. A guy on another forum I frequent posted data of a lab that does mass spec. The majority of UGL's tested between 70-80% for testosterone and trenbolone and a much lower for just about every other compound. Less than 1% of UGL tested were over 90%. Compounds like Masterone were commonly under dosed by 50-60%.

2) I have been following this thread and from what I gather someone ran bloods that showed TL test cyp underdosed by about 25%, which is actually on par with other UGL's, a mass spec showed it 50% under dosed which is up for debate (judging by the blood work 25% looked accurate).

3) The dude went out of his way to make up for the 25% which is fucking unheard of from a UGL.

4) People who couldn't follow ordering instructions didn't get replacement and are blaming him for that.

5) Out of all the people who ran his gear ONE person got an infection. I am sorry about that and it sucks but a single incident is hardly a representation of quality. Seems like an individual issue.

6) TL showed another Mass spec on testosteron showing it 100% purity which does seem skeptical to me.

7) I have never used TL but I use a UGL who uses the same raws and I have tons of bloods from myself and friends to show that it is very "close" to being on par with my pharma prescribed TRT.

I know I will take flac for this but a lot of people on this forum are out of your minds. You expect pharma grade product at UGL prices and customer service as if you are ordering panty hose from Amazon dot com. I feel bad that many of you will NEVER land on a decent source with this attitude that you have. Ever. What's worse is that you ruin it on others who frequent this board. I have ordered from about a dozen different UGL's and have blood work with about half of them. Have my blood tests came in under the phara grade test that I pay 5x the price for? YEP. Do I get my boxers in a bunch over it? NOPE. I can tell Tren potency by side effects and yes it varies "slightly" from lab to lab but as a whole I can always land on the dose to get the job done.

"5x the price for pharma"
$250 a vial???
Not even close
"Do you get your panties in a bunch"
Apparently, only when a shitty source gets called out..

"Ruining it for others that frequent this board"
I know you're not talking about yourself, considering you've made 17 posts in 3 months.. You contribute nothing and when you attempt to, this is how you choose..
We choose to protect our members, unlike you who chooses to protect a scammer... I don't think you're a shill, merely an idiot

 

[jackmeoff1]

So people will only land a good source if they have what sort of attitude?

The reality is that with UGL's you HAVE to lower your expectations. Now, before I get flamed I don't mean accept complete garbage. Communication should be reasonable (1-2 days answering emails), shipping should be avearge (7-10 days) and product should WORK (as noted 70-80% purity is GOOD).

Let me put it this way, for what this cat charges for a vial of test cyp I literally pay 6x that though my TRT clinic and I am with one of the more reasonably priced ones. That is 98% purity and 2 day shipping. If you expect that from a UGL you are simply demented. These guys are getting raws off the black market and doing their best to dose it based on WEIGHT that they are paying for. I met some of these guys personally and they take this shit seriously. They are brewing with your health in mind and in terms of quality they really are trying to beat out the competition. They aren't sitting around cutting raws with baking powder like some street crack dealer but THAT is exactly how some of you treat them. If you think that these guys are buying raws from the same manfactures as big pharma you are out of your mind. In order for them to compete with pharma quality they would have to buy a fuck ton of equipment and even then getting the dosing right would be nightmare.

Simply put, stop holding these guys to standards that only big phamra can can live up to unless you are prepared to pay the price. If this cat upped his products by 600% he would go out of business but that is the quality standard many are holding him to.

 

[jackmeoff1]

"5x the price for pharma"
$250 a vial???
Not even close
"Do you get your panties in a bunch"
Apparently, only when a shitty source gets called out..

"Ruining it for others that frequent this board"
I know you're not talking about yourself, considering you've made 17 posts in 3 months.. You contribute nothing and when you attempt to, this is how you choose..
We choose to protect our members, unlike you who chooses to protect a scammer... I don't think you're a shill, merely an idiot

Why aren't you buying pharma than? You yourself bought from TL. If you had a cheap pharma supplier you would have ordered. You didn't because you haven't a clue what you are talking about.

 

[element00]

The reality is that with UGL's you HAVE to lower your expectations. Now, before I get flamed I don't mean accept complete garbage. Communication should be reasonable (1-2 days answering emails), shipping should be avearge (7-10 days) and product should WORK (as noted 70-80% purity is GOOD).

Let me put it this way, for what this cat charges for a vial of test cyp I literally pay 6x that though my TRT clinic and I am with one of the more reasonably priced ones. That is 98% purity and 2 day shipping. If you expect that from a UGL you are simply demented. These guys are getting raws off the black market and doing their best to dose it based on WEIGHT that they are paying for. I met some of these guys personally and they take this shit seriously. They are brewing with your health in mind and in terms of quality they really are trying to beat out the competition. They aren't sitting around cutting raws with baking powder like some street crack dealer but THAT is exactly how some of you treat them. If you think that these guys are buying raws from the same manfactures as big pharma you are out of your mind. In order for them to compete with pharma quality they would have to buy a fuck ton of equipment and even then getting the dosing right would be nightmare.

Simply put, stop holding these guys to standards that only big phamra can can live up to unless you are prepared to pay the price. If this cat upped his products by 600% he would go out of business but that is the quality standard many are holding him to.

You make a whole lot of assumptions about what people expect from a reliable source. I find it even more perplexing that you have 'met some of these guys' and have determined that they are doing their best, with OUR health in mind... Please provide us with more insight. Listen up meso, this shit is like gold people

 

[jackmeoff1]

You make a whole lot of assumptions about what people expect from a reliable source. I find it even more perplexing that you have 'met some of these guys' and have determined that they are doing their best, with OUR health in mind... Please provide us with more insight. Listen up meso, this shit is like gold people

I don't need any kind of acceptance from you or this site. I am not a UGL and have no intention of starting one up. But I have many great relationships with guys in this game who know they can be honest with me. I didn't build those relationships by acting like many of the people on meso, that is for sure. You can take that fwiw.

 

[Gettinbigger76]

Why aren't you buying pharma than? You yourself bought from TL. If you had a cheap pharma supplier you would have ordered. You didn't because you haven't a clue what you are talking about.

I did??? Read your boyfriends post and you can see that I've never bought from him... And why?? Because my source actually tests his batches and labels accordingly.. Maybe that will change,maybe not, but he's been proven forna lot longer than the 20 minutes it took for your boy to turn to shit...

"I don't know what I'm talking about".. Your boyfriend claimed to have had way higher purity then the 57% that was verified.. You yourself just said that 70-80% is acceptable, I agree, that's why I don't need to buy Pharma. Contrary to your statemeny, I'm sure I know a whole hell of a lot more than you. TL wasn't even close to 70-80%..Now had he manned up and actually corrected the problem instead of deflecting and trying to muddy the waters with the "inconclusive" findings , ie:mast e/p, test e, he would've been treated with a lot more respect.. Keep dick riding... I might not know everything, but I know that your boyfriend is a liar and fraud.. He selectively chose to replace a few vials, but left a lot more people out in the cold that spent their hard earned money on his snake oil... As your handle states, you can now jack me off,cunt

 

[element00]

I don't need any kind of acceptance from you or this site. I am not a UGL and have no intention of starting one up. But I have many great relationships with guys in this game who know they can be honest with me. I didn't build those relationships by acting like many of the people on meso, that is for sure. You can take that fwiw.

Yes agreed, I think you've made it clear enough who you are seeking acceptance from

 

[jymis]

I have no bone in this fight but I do have some experience in the UGL game and just a few observations:

1) I have yet to see a mass spec on a single UGL test at 90+%. A guy on another forum I frequent posted data of a lab that does mass spec. The majority of UGL's tested between 70-80% for testosterone and trenbolone and a much lower for just about every other compound. Less than 1% of UGL tested were over 90%. Compounds like Masterone were commonly under dosed by 50-60%.

2) I have been following this thread and from what I gather someone ran bloods that showed TL test cyp underdosed by about 25%, which is actually on par with other UGL's, a mass spec showed it 50% under dosed which is up for debate (judging by the blood work 25% looked accurate).

3) The dude went out of his way to make up for the 25% which is fucking unheard of from a UGL.

4) People who couldn't follow ordering instructions didn't get replacement and are blaming him for that.

5) Out of all the people who ran his gear ONE person got an infection. I am sorry about that and it sucks but a single incident is hardly a representation of quality. Seems like an individual issue.

6) TL showed another Mass spec on testosteron showing it 100% purity which does seem skeptical to me.

7) I have never used TL but I use a UGL who uses the same raws and I have tons of bloods from myself and friends to show that it is very "close" to being on par with my pharma prescribed TRT.

I know I will take flac for this but a lot of people on this forum are out of your minds. You expect pharma grade product at UGL prices and customer service as if you are ordering panty hose from Amazon dot com. I feel bad that many of you will NEVER land on a decent source with this attitude that you have. Ever. What's worse is that you ruin it on others who frequent this board. I have ordered from about a dozen different UGL's and have blood work with about half of them. Have my blood tests came in under the phara grade test that I pay 5x the price for? YEP. Do I get my boxers in a bunch over it? NOPE. I can tell Tren potency by side effects and yes it varies "slightly" from lab to lab but as a whole I can always land on the dose to get the job done.

Wow you are getting ripped off by for your clinic. I pay 70 bucks for a 10ml bottle of 200mg/ml Test C from CVS with no insurance. Seems to me TL is charging pretty close to Pharma prices I guess I would expect Pharma quality.

 

[Colt44]

Yes agreed, I think you've made it clear enough who you are seeking acceptance from

No wonder he has a lot of friends that are sources.

 

[ebkallday]

Why aren't you buying pharma than? You yourself bought from TL. If you had a cheap pharma supplier you would have ordered. You didn't because you haven't a clue what you are talking about.

You think you have a clue what you are talking about. Watch your step here bud! This is one of my bro's and I assure you.... he knows his shit. We are all allowed an opinion, and if this is what you offer than you are welcome. But for calling out good members here you are not here for the long haul.

EBK

 

[element00]

No wonder he has a lot of friends that are sources.

Nothing like friends with benefits

 

[Gettinbigger76]

You think you have a clue what you are talking about. Watch your step here bud! This is one of my bro's and I assure you.... he knows his shit. We are all allowed an opinion, and if this is what you offer than you are welcome. But for calling out good members here you are not here for the long haul.

EBK

Thank you my brother. Always nice when the calvary comes through

 

[Big_paul]

Consideringelement00, post: 1114415, member: 64059"]You make a whole lot of assumptions about what people expect from a reliable source. I find it even more perplexing that you have 'met some of these guys' and have determined that they are doing their best, with OUR health in mind... Please provide us with more insight. Listen up meso, this shit is like gold people[/QUOTE]
Considering the quality control issues we have seen recently I wouldn't say they are looking out for the customers best interests or health.
Each lab needs to be looked at individually. Some definitely do better than others.
Lets see were all this testing takes us. It could make a difference in the quality we see now that is easier for us to test gear we buy.
If it says 250mg on the label that is what it should be. Sources could compesate forpoor quality raws by taking into account the fact that their powder is 80% purity and either put a lower dose on the label our use more raw.

 

[Ultimatepip]

Some of your guys posts are so damn long...my eyes are hurting