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In Italy (where I moved here from 12 years ago) health was funded by 8% on salaries as a burden to the company and 3% on the workers for a total of 11%

Everything is free. Exams, medicines, specialists. No out of pocket

Is it perfect? No. It requires government intervention to limit escalation in drug costs and in negotiating tariffs for exams and procedures. There are sometimes long waiting times for non urgent procedures. You are in a public structure and not spoiled in a single private room

But , being able to afford it, I integrated it with a private insurance so I could get the perks I wanted

And if they can make it work in Italy... [emoji849]

My brother-in-law had an MI a few years back. My sister-in-law has breast cancer. COST: "FREE"! They live in Italy.

The USA is FUCKING BACKWARDS.
 


When Donald Trump took office on Jan. 20, the majority of Americans who did not vote for him knew the outlook would be grim. I don’t think we expected it to be this bad, so early.

The past two weeks have been not only disastrous for the Trump administration and for Trump personally, but they bode poorly for the future of this country, our role in the world and the image the rest of the world has of a shrinking and diminished United States in the global arena. Trump has effectively ceded the role of the U.S. as leader of the free world.
 

Not if it's offsetting other expenses...

If - for example - you pay annually $18k for health insurance and it gets replaced by a 15% tax increase on your wage and you make $100k a year, you'll be not only paying $15k (saving $3k) but no deductible, company's, etc

That's really nice math; at least you hedged your example with "if". I'm told the state is around $1.3T in debt. You think maybe the legislators might have trouble estimating the actual costs of the programs they impose on others? Some combination of higher real costs, longer wait times and lower quality care is as certain as death and taxes.
 
https://lynx.media/2017/06/03/kellyanne-conway-blames-bureaucracy-unfilled-government-positions-trump-admin-stuck-limbo/
 
You keep thinking that and we're going to start thinking you have early dementia. [emoji6] lol
Okay. Lol. I don't have an emotional investment in trump. If I did I would be flipping out worse than any of the trump supporters on our board, but since I don't I get to enjoy all of this because for me this movie will have a happy ending. :)
 
Okay. Lol. I don't have an imotional investment in trump. If I did I would be flipping out worse than any of the trump supporters on our board, but since I don't I get to enjoy all of this because for me this movie will have a happy ending. :)
Who doesn't like "happy endings?" Lol
 
Democrats love promising the moon in order to garner votes while simultaneously bankrupting their states. California a prime example.
 
Social security

Not so, but lets assume it is. The government, having taken over much of private retirement and failed miserably on its promise to deliver has borrowed (a defacto promise to tax) vast sums to hide its incompetence, stolen funds from other programs, defaulted on payments to other government programs, etc. Now it wants even more to take over much of private medical care.
 
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