(US) Long term stash planning BIG Thread

Most chinese vendors are out of stock of the raws, what are some of the last places you can still get raws as of today? Looking to get some before next year.
 
Most chinese vendors are out of stock of the raws, what are some of the last places you can still get raws as of today? Looking to get some before next year.
 

Hey man,
Thank you for posting this.
Originally, I asked you a geniuine and respectful question, right? I asked because, I agree with your premise that "big brother" has access (or "backdoors") to our private info. That WAS your intent on bringing up EARN IT, right? Privacy is important to me too. That's why I looked into it after you mentioned, then asked a question about it.

This lines of law in this post are for the protection of a "provider" against liability in the event they: provide encryption, unable to decrypt, or fail to encrypt. It doesn't give the legal authority to decrypt.

However, let me say this... just about every law in the US, Fed or State, regarding "comminication" comes with a caveot: if done in the commission of a serious crime (i.e. felony), there is no applicable privacy.

For example, where I live, I cannot record a telephone call without the permission of the other caller ("2-party consent"). If let's say we were on the phone, I record without your permission, and you say you were going to sell me your truck for $1k... we have a contract. But, you don't sell it to me for that and say you want $5k... I sue you for the breach of contract (Contract - Civil). I cannot bring the recording as admissable in court... it was not legal.

Conversely, if I'm recording you without your permission, this time you say you will RUN me over with your truck, then that is admissable as a criminal threat (Felony - Criminal).

Now here, in the world of AAS, we can apply the boundaries of what is "legal" and what is "criminal" with respect to our communications very simply. Yes, we potentially can monitored and be caught with our pants down, regardless of what a new "Act" is enacted.
 
Somewhat relevant, but I saw this whole ordeal that is unraveling before our eyes, a few months ago... It was the whole familiar feeling of too easy, too cheap, too open...

It may be labeled as a collateral damage, but is it really?

 
Somewhat relevant, but I saw this whole ordeal that is unraveling before our eyes, a few months ago... It was the whole familiar feeling of too easy, too cheap, too open...

It may be labeled as a collateral damage, but is it really?

Ya I remember the pre ord days. Still have lots of raws in long term storage from back then even half used up liters all packed up and still working fine from 15 years ago. This latest "good times" was a good time to replenish and restock for the next few decades
 
Somewhat relevant, but I saw this whole ordeal that is unraveling before our eyes, a few months ago... It was the whole familiar feeling of too easy, too cheap, too open...

It may be labeled as a collateral damage, but is it really?

Agreed. Something big is coming soon and everyone is too blind to see it .
 
Hey man,
Thank you for posting this.
Originally, I asked you a geniuine and respectful question, right? I asked because, I agree with your premise that "big brother" has access (or "backdoors") to our private info. That WAS your intent on bringing up EARN IT, right? Privacy is important to me too. That's why I looked into it after you mentioned, then asked a question about it.

This lines of law in this post are for the protection of a "provider" against liability in the event they: provide encryption, unable to decrypt, or fail to encrypt. It doesn't give the legal authority to decrypt.

However, let me say this... just about every law in the US, Fed or State, regarding "comminication" comes with a caveot: if done in the commission of a serious crime (i.e. felony), there is no applicable privacy.

For example, where I live, I cannot record a telephone call without the permission of the other caller ("2-party consent"). If let's say we were on the phone, I record without your permission, and you say you were going to sell me your truck for $1k... we have a contract. But, you don't sell it to me for that and say you want $5k... I sue you for the breach of contract (Contract - Civil). I cannot bring the recording as admissable in court... it was not legal.

Conversely, if I'm recording you without your permission, this time you say you will RUN me over with your truck, then that is admissable as a criminal threat (Felony - Criminal).

Now here, in the world of AAS, we can apply the boundaries of what is "legal" and what is "criminal" with respect to our communications very simply. Yes, we potentially can monitored and be caught with our pants down, regardless of what a new "Act" is enacted.
i wasnt trying to sound mean, its just how it came out i guess. i could of probably worded it better tho. but yes your right that if its a really serious crime that nsa can probably break encryption but it would have to be a really serious crime for them to put those respurces into action. if something like that act goes into law, then LE will just request the backdoor access to the account or phone number to any email or messaging app that uses open source code thats usually unbreakable to regular LE operations. but luckily we are lower than most things on LE priority list
 
Is it a good idea to store “food-grade” silica gel beads in oral raws?
Nevermind. I used the search function. It is a good idea

I’m planning on storing raws 10g at a time with loose silica beads. I am concerned about o2 absorber packs made of paper because they’re porous and they’ll get a lot of the raws stuck in it. At least, that’s what I imagine will happen.

What material are the o2 absorber packs made of?
 
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Id say f off.. but i see dude done spoon fed you. You didn't prepare and now you are wanting people to give up valuable source so you can panic buy and dry them up too.

Better to let a member "panic buy" (I'd call that simple procrastination) before a source decides it's better to hang on to their raws for potentially making overpriced oils later, isn't it?
 
Nevermind. I used the search function. It is a good idea

I’m planning on storing raws 10g at a time with loose silica beads. I am concerned about o2 absorber packs made of paper because they’re porous and they’ll get a lot of the raws stuck in it. At least, that’s what I imagine will happen.

What material are the o2 absorber packs made of?
You haven't read properly. Oxygen absorbers can't contaminate your raws, silica gel pack can.
 
Thanks for the ad hominem dig at the end. I'll open with mine.

Your opinion seems to come from someone who's myopic, and a little intellectually dishonest.

Once again weak logic covers itself with a straw man argument. "They'll find a way to get it into the largest market.". No shit? You don't say? You mean like heroin and cocaine, they can somehow get it into the US? Wow, you're a genius.

Dearest shallow thinker, the point has been that the market will change, for the worse, from the status quo, and that it would be wise, if one wanted the best price and selection, to take action sooner rather than later: Do you understand?

Which methods do all the Chinese suppliers use to send the lowest priced, widest selection of product to customers?

Let me help you.

There's ONE. De minimus.

And no, there will be no "compromise".

"Oh, ok, China, we'll tell customs to allow a certain amount of smuggling to take place".

De minimus import limits will be slashed, data integrity of the customs declarations will be enforced with an iron fist so the shipping companies will be unwilling to risk their business for the minuscule profit of a few packs of contraband, which will have to, of course, provide false declarations.

And again, for those slow to comprehend, the end result will NOT BE COMPLETE UNAVAILABILITY, but higher prices, less selection, and lower quality than was available at the time I advised "stocking up" to take advantage of what had been a very good AAS market.
That’s pretty rich coming from the someone who sounds so sure of something we haven’t seen. Ad hominem definitely but dial back the stimulants man you literally can’t be wrong and your “logic” seems robotic. I make sure to emphasize I don’t know shit about fuck but I also don’t think just anyone on a steroid forum can predict an entire market changing for the worst. Call me what you will but I would say you’re a little arrogant. It’s insufferable debating with people like this but whatever gets you going. I appreciate the warning and keeping people on their toes
 
That’s pretty rich coming from the someone who sounds so sure of something we haven’t seen. Ad hominem definitely but dial back the stimulants man you literally can’t be wrong and your “logic” seems robotic. I make sure to emphasize I don’t know shit about fuck but I also don’t think just anyone on a steroid forum can predict an entire market changing for the worst. Call me what you will but I would say you’re a little arrogant. It’s insufferable debating with people like this but whatever gets you going. I appreciate the warning and keeping people on their toes
 

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