(US) Long term stash planning BIG Thread

[IronJohnDoe]

This was such an unusual, extreme reaction by the FDA, I.really wish. they'd share the specific events that raised the alarm. I had seen something about reports of needle tips coming off inside patients(requiring surgery) and measurements off by as much as 15% on syringe barrel markings, but they've disappeared.

Damn! New fear unlocked, needle tip staying inside‍
Funnily enough I B&C and do my own injections (vastus lateralis, v. medialis, shoulders, quads and lats as I pin daily for stable levels) and guess what?
I am actually afraid of needles.

Yes. You read that right. The things that we do to ourselves..

 

[Ghoul]

Damn! New fear unlocked, needle tip staying inside‍
Funnily enough I B&C and do my own injections (vastus lateralis, v. medialis, shoulders, quads and lats as I pin daily for stable levels) and guess what?
I am actually afraid of needles.

Yes. You read that right. The things that we do to ourselves..

Sorry for worsening that bro...

The thing is, it wasn't the whole needle, but literally the *tip*, so buried deep, not something you could pull from the end.

Something about the sharpening weakening the end. Noticed when the patient would move after the syringe was removed, and start screaming as they were lacerated internally by the sharpened metal fragment traveling around.

 

[IronJohnDoe]

Sorry for worsening that bro...

It's all good bro, it will make my mind stronger. (At some point)

 

[Zebedee]

I think a leg day bro session will humble everyone here, we will all puke out our egos on that bucket for sure.

Particularly those here who’ve never actually trained before!

 

[Toadie45]

I'll tell you what i would do without.........
.... nothing!! Except maybe some peptides in a couple years.. I'm already old and have more juice than I really need to do as I get older.. Would be a shame if HGH, tb500 and bpc-157 became impossible to get.. especially as a person get a lil older!! Also I'd like to point out that gear is not cheap for a lot of people.. I have conversations with people in person all the time that are paying 70$ for a vial of test.. I come across this often..
Peace
D

How much should someone expect to pay for test?

 

[Dirthand]

How much should someone expect to pay for test?

Well i think it depends.. if a person just wants convince from someone they trust they are going to pay more. Imo.. the person they trust puts time into vetting , following the source having it shipped to them there's work involved in all that..I say people should pay whatever their comfortable paying.. I mean if a person is just running a little trt to to where a vial will last them a couple months , probly not bug deal to pay 50 to 70 buck a vial..if yourblasting gear that kind of situation can get costly i would imagine... Its all about how deep you wanna get involved.. you wanna be the one holding the bag or the one handing over the bag!!
Peace
D

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Particularly those here who’ve never actually trained before!

Bro I don't even lift.

 

[Grey Spartan]

Damn! New fear unlocked, needle tip staying inside‍
Funnily enough I B&C and do my own injections (vastus lateralis, v. medialis, shoulders, quads and lats as I pin daily for stable levels) and guess what?
I am actually afraid of needles.

Yes. You read that right. The things that we do to ourselves..

Funny that you say you pin daily for "stable levels". I watch a video yesterday, and the TRT Doc said you do get stable levels but almost never do people feel better. He said pinning once or twice a week with using an AI, has the best symptom relief.

 

[Dirthand]

stable levels

Im naturally unstable.... it just feels right..

 

[egruberman]

He said pinning once or twice a week with using an AI, has the best symptom relief.

Sure, for TRT doses, which I'd argue that if someone needs an AI they probably aren't on "TRT". For those of us that like to push test as high as possible, I'd rather do so with less side effects.

 

[IronJohnDoe]

Funny that you say you pin daily for "stable levels". I watch a video yesterday, and the TRT Doc said you do get stable levels but almost never do people feel better. He said pinning once or twice a week with using an AI, has the best symptom relief.

I understand that but after trying any sort of frequencies, everyday for me is the best option.
No sides, stable emotionally, only a bit of acne if I go up with the test.

 

[IronJohnDoe]

Sure, for TRT doses, which I'd argue that if someone needs an AI they probably aren't on "TRT". For those of us that like to push test as high as possible, I'd rather do so with less side effects.

Here is my point.
Being on a "hrt" at best, hence the daily pinning.

 

[Zebedee]

Bro I don't even lift.

What’s “lifting” ???

 

[Ghoul]

I understand that but after trying any sort of frequencies, everyday for me is the best option.
No sides, stable emotionally, only a bit of acne if I go up with the test.

Which ester did you settle on? One thing that seems to be a basic truth, is that it's not one size fits all for TRT, and "how the man feels" is the best guide.

 

[IronJohnDoe]

Which ester did you settle on? One thing that seems to be a basic truth, is that it's not one size fits all for TRT, and "how the man feels" is the best guide.

Funnily enough Sustanon but it seems that that blend is something that my body agrees with.

 

[Trenbolonetax]

Test Prop is delightful for me. A blend of test p and test c would probably be ideal though. Stability while mimicking physiologic peak and trough.

 

[Grey Spartan]

Sure, for TRT doses, which I'd argue that if someone needs an AI they probably aren't on "TRT". For those of us that like to push test as high as possible, I'd rather do so with less side effects.

I totally agree. I found the Doc's comments interesting and was wondering if anyone had similar experiences. I have tried all pinning frequencies and for me, I have not noticed any more or less "side effects" with any of them. However, I have never tried more than 1g once a week.

 

[IronJohnDoe]

I totally agree. I found the Doc's comments interesting and was wondering if anyone had similar experiences. I have tried all pinning frequencies and for me, I have not noticed any more or less "side effects" with any of them. However, I have never tried more than 1g once a week.

If I was not feeling any different I'd pin once a week, unfortunately if I do that I get moody and quite "combative" on pinning days.

While with the daily pinning I am chilled like a zen monk hahaha

 

[Ateam2023]

Funny that you say you pin daily for "stable levels". I watch a video yesterday, and the TRT Doc said you do get stable levels but almost never do people feel better. He said pinning once or twice a week with using an AI, has the best symptom relief.

ime , doing 200 mg per week 2x(m&thurs) seems to make me feel no difference than doing m-w-f injections and as far as estrogen control? Well im still trying to figure that out, as i've had a yo-yo year with high estrogen and trying to dial it in, alot of factors play into estrogen control ie:mg/ml concentration, dosing protocol, and ai use,,,, ymmv though

 

[Grey Spartan]

ime , doing 200 mg per week 2x(m&thurs) seems to make me feel no difference than doing m-w-f injections and as far as estrogen control? Well im still trying to figure that out, as i've had a yo-yo year with high estrogen and trying to dial it in, alot of factors play into estrogen control ie:mg/ml concentration, dosing protocol, and ai use,,,, ymmv though

Same with the estrogen. I have even lowered my dose from 175mg to 150mg a week, doing m-w-f injections and taking .5mg a week of Anastrozole. Still 47 with a sensitive test?! And before you ask I am around 15% body fat, AKA 4 pack lol.

I start my next cycle Jan 1 so I'm trying to get all numbers in check before I start. I will be using Primo so hopefully that will help lower the estrogen. Oh, and on 175mg a week my Total test was 1658.