What's your guys opinion on best EU source?

[Ooohlala]

I will also add that, regarding to the quality of testing, we never know. Jano is calling bs on the Ukrainian guys. Some people have called bs on him as well.

I'm not taking sides. Everyone does mistakes here and there, and anyone can come back from them.

Jano is well-respected by some, but he was put to the test in the past and failed. There are posts in which Jano addresses this himself.

What I know is that the higher amount of competition there is in a market, the better the services tend to be. Having only one source for every test, means the results are unverified - and verification and reproducibility of results are the minimum requirements for quality of testing of any sort.

And, once again, my argument is that there is a VERY SIGNIFICANT disproportion between testing for the active compound and testing for impurities (which are the true source of health hazard), both from distributors and clients alike (and I would even add that for clients is easier to test for active substance - due to bloodworks, and other tangents. Also local labs, may be used to test testosterone and some other pharma available compounds, but many will be ill equiped to test for impurities)

 

[Liska]

But, anyway, there is plenty of active compounds testing, and, in my opinion, very little actual impurity testing (which is where the health hazards will come from).

The abuse of the actual AAS in your product will definitely be the biggest health hazard, not some suspected yet undiscovered impurities.

 

[Ooohlala]

We never know. Impirities

The abuse of the actual AAS in your product will definitely be the biggest health hazard, not some suspected yet undiscovered impurities.

We never know. Impurities may accumulate in your body during many years, and manifest only later on in life. As is the case of heavy metals (although that accumulation mechanism of toxicity is definitely NOT only restricted to heavy metals).

 

[Inspired]

We never know. Impirities


We never know. Impurities may accumulate in your body during many years, and manifest only later on in life. As is the case of heavy metals (although that accumulation mechanism of toxicity is definitely NOT only restricted to heavy metals).

I agree with that. I also wish there was more testing for impurities and metals.

 

[M. Tugboat]

We never know. Impirities


We never know. Impurities may accumulate in your body during many years, and manifest only later on in life. As is the case of heavy metals (although that accumulation mechanism of toxicity is definitely NOT only restricted to heavy metals).

What's the deal with heavy metals? When do they start to become a problem?

 

[M. Tugboat]

Just to say that when Hilma sent me their stuff, it actually came from eastern europe (if I'm not mistaken: Lithuania, or somewhere near).

They also sent me Viagra. Everything works fine: the Viagra and the test (so much so, that even on a 250mg/week test enanth cycle (split in two 125mg doses every 3rd/half day), I'm already getting gyno (3rd week)).

Gonna start taking tamoxifen to counteract the estrogenic effects.

Anyway, tamoxifen, arimidex, letrozole, and clomid, all effect negative cognitive side effects. The only one that doesn't seem to have any, on a significant scale, is Exemestane (Aromas in). Gonna order it and substitute the tamoxifen for the Aromasin.

Why does "nobody" talks about the cognitive side effects of these (pct / estrogen balancing) drugs?

Pretty sure that talking about which country a source ships from is dangerous.

Maybe @Millard should edit it out?

 

[dasistmane]

I agree with that. I also wish there was more testing for impurities and metals.

Knew you'd pipe up

 

[Satilmix]

Me inclino por Hilma (, que según todas las pruebas es en realidad india, lo cual está bien para mí, a excepción de la mentira con fines de marketing ) o Titan Labs (, que parece ser un negocio legítimo de un solo hombre en el Reino Unido, pero ahora está de vacaciones o lo que sea, así que no he respondido mis correos electrónicos ... ). Tengo mi sede en Portugal y me gustaría estar cerca de este lado del continente ( oeste ).

¿Alguna sugerencia sobre fuentes probadas y de buena reputación de España / Portugal?

Liska cat cafe, lo mejor luego los demas

 

[Ooohlala]

What's the deal with heavy metals? When do they start to become a problem?

They're neurotoxic, and bioaccumulate during your whole lifespan. Just search for "heavy metals health" or "lead health" or "mercury health". That's why you never should have a pescaria diet, nor eat too much fish per week. (unfortunately, because other than heavy metals, fish is the healthiest protein source you may have).

But on this topic, I'm not actually talking JUST about "heavy metals". I'm talking about other contaminants, as well, that may get into gear due to bad manufacturing practices. Also, poor/toxic fillers. Also, carrier oils with impurities. Also wrong percentages of bb and ba in injections...also organic contamination. All that stuff

 

[Liska]

They're neurotoxic, and bioaccumulate during your whole lifespan. Just search for "heavy metals health" or "lead health" or "mercury health". That's why you never should have a pescaria diet, nor eat too much fish per week. (unfortunately, because other than heavy metals, fish is the healthiest protein source you may have).

But on this topic, I'm not actually talking JUST about "heavy metals". I'm talking about other contaminants, as well, that may get into gear due to bad manufacturing practices. Also, poor/toxic fillers. Also, carrier oils with impurities. Also wrong percentages of bb and ba in injections...also organic contamination. All that stuff

Bro that is what I'm saying! All the food is poison, all the food is poison. The carrots, the peas, the celery sticks, the meat and the fish will make you sick. Chicken! Poison! Barley! Poison! White rice! Baked beans! Duck a l'orange! Poison! Sunflower seeds! Poison! Radicchio! Hummus! Oranges! Poison! Hass avocados! Poison! Your dad’s barbecue brisket! Poison! Horse meat! Poison!

Aniki, you want to not die tomorrow? Take the Survival Shield X-2 one bottle a day, that's god putting his hand over you for protection, the Oxy-Powder, the Anthroplex, they are the son and holy spirit.

 

[Inspired]

What do you feed your cats Liska?

 

[Liska]

What do you feed your cats Liska?

The truth about Sandy Hook.

 

[H&M]

They're neurotoxic, and bioaccumulate during your whole lifespan. Just search for "heavy metals health" or "lead health" or "mercury health". That's why you never should have a pescaria diet, nor eat too much fish per week. (unfortunately, because other than heavy metals, fish is the healthiest protein source you may have).

But on this topic, I'm not actually talking JUST about "heavy metals". I'm talking about other contaminants, as well, that may get into gear due to bad manufacturing practices. Also, poor/toxic fillers. Also, carrier oils with impurities. Also wrong percentages of bb and ba in injections...also organic contamination. All that stuff

If follow your logic may I ask why the Hell want you to do steroids/black market meds?
It's not must.Or?

 

[Inspired]

The truth about Sandy Hook.

Then you have one very redpilled and powerful cat.

 

[miklorr]

Any sources that ship to denmark with high chance of delivery? Thanks in advance

 

[Johnylee]

I'm looking for someone to ship to or from uk, not interested in Titan labs

 

[Ooohlala]

If follow your logic may I ask why the Hell want you to do steroids/black market meds?
It's not must.Or?

REAL med grade stuff is impossible to find unless it's channeled from a legitimate pharmacy. I'm not talking about "med grade" publicized on online steroid shop. I'm talking about the real thing.

As I don't have any contacts who are providing VERIFIABLE med grade stuff (once again, the real deal - not what is presented to the public as such through a simple counterfeit label), and getting a doctor to prescribe me 250 mg test/week is practically impossible (and even if I did, I would have to pay around 80€ just to go and get an injection every damn week), I resort to what I can get my hands to.

One uses gear well-aware of these risks, but that's why mitigating them is so important.

 

[Ooohlala]

Bro that is what I'm saying! All the food is poison, all the food is poison.

Not true. The difference between illegal and legal activities is that legal production is regulated and checked (sure, IT WON'T BE PERFECT but, nowadays, in the EU, if you're buying from a legally sanctioned brand, you can reasonably expect that they'll have regulation checks in their production facilities, heavy fines in case of failed checks, and, in case there are health hazards connected to the brand, they'll take a heavy shot in wide spread bad publicity). So - once again -, although not perfect, it is reasonable to assume they are safer than illegal labs and manufacturing practices.

 

[Ooohlala]

Plus, injecting stuff IM, presents a lot more health hazards than eating or skin caring (there are a lot more protection barriers that compounds go through being absorbed dermatologically or through digestion).

Blind testing once in a while some packages for impurities instead of active compounds would be productive, because after hundreds and hundreds of tests each year, sources expect to be tested on the active substances, and you can somewhat-safely assume that their product is legit in terms of the active substance.

 

[Ooohlala]

It's unfortunate that people in the community have simply made up their minds about the overall safety of the products. All that it came to matter is the active compounds, then costs are cut in all the other ingredients. Low levels of toxic substances bio accumulate throughout the years and, due to that reason, their nefarious effects are not immediately attributable (if attributable at all) to their real sources.

That's a silent but real threat.

Testing for active compound over and over, both during production (by manufacturers) and after consumption (by clients), it's just like having an MMA fighter continuously trainning the jab and ignoring everything else. Sure, the jab is crucial for the performance, but there are many, many more variables at stake, and obsessing over an important one while neglecting all others, won't do much for his overall competence.

That being said, one takes peds well aware of these risks, but, once again, that's why it is important to mitigate them as much as possible (although the community is clearly blinded by their already established world view: "as long as I'm getting the main thing I'm paying for, everything else is incredibly safe. Big corporations are the devil. Underground labs (one could say: kitchen/garage assembly tables)
doing their thing are the militia of our generation. Liska is our Robin Hood").

That's like consuming garage-brew alcoholic beverages during the time of Prohibition and only caring if the beverage had the right amount of alcohol in it. Yeah, really smart. Besides, Liska, you're "OCD about testing" the exact same thing that most other labs also test for? Great for you. There are many sources openly offering credits for honest blood/product analysis that would cover the whole cost of the analysis. So, they're asking the clients to check for THEMSELVES the quality of the product. Not really sure what having the manufacturer himself testing his own product and swearing for it's safety really tells about the product - at least, for anyone who has two brain cells working together.

The only distinctive thing I see from you is a man spending half his day in forums trying to build the trust of his target audience (have you noticed the absence of other sources reps in this thread?). That's digital marketing, not quality of service. People here seems to consider you the "best source in the EU" out of what? Bandwagon effect? You're really missing out on a great career as "influencer". Certainly you already have a gullible audience behind you. Smh