Why there almost certainly is No God!!

[smiles]

So you are telling me that if I drive a box of rocks to the top of a hill, I can leave the horse radish sauce, crackers and lemon at the bottom?

Sorry smiles. When I said "crackers" I meant the unleavened bread kind. Im not sharing my rocksters with anyone.

that's okay I am cracker, some may say a cracker jack... lol
if you meant rock stars I hope you know your drinking bat shit, that's what could be making you a little batty in that case you can keep them...
there's a underground squirl fight going on next week, out in the back forty just beyond stone creek ridge if you want to come, the notorious nut cracking jones, jone will be there alone with all of gods creators...

 

[nuncaquite]

that's okay I am cracker, some may say a cracker jack... lol
if you meant rock stars I hope you know your drinking bat shit, that's what could be making you a little batty in that case you can keep them...
there's a underground squirl fight going on next week, out in the back forty just beyond stone creek ridge if you want to come, the notorious nut cracking jones, jone will be there alone with all of gods creators...

Rockster is a combo of oyster and rock. Just giving Dr J some shit cause I know he can take a punch.
All other Crackers call me Boss. Only thing that separates me from the rest of the crackers is that I still have my own teeth. In my own mouth.
Where did you get your teeth?
Was that you who stole mama's teeth from off the night stand?
If so, bring back the glass they were rinsing in. We have family commin over for Thanksgiving and we are short on drinking glasses.

 

[Michael Scally MD]

 

[smiles]

Rockster is a combo of oyster and rock. Just giving Dr J some shit cause I know he can take a punch.
All other Crackers call me Boss. Only thing that separates me from the rest of the crackers is that I still have my own teeth. In my own mouth.
Where did you get your teeth?
Was that you who stole mama's teeth from off the night stand?
If so, bring back the glass they were rinsing in. We have family commin over for Thanksgiving and we are short on drinking glasses.

Hahah well I from my understanding they were past down on your side, it was your great great great great, uncle daddy grandpas, cousin, mothers brother...

 

[dnoyez]

We are all god...his puppets here to experience the dynamics of the material world(in essence we are all the same one talking to our selves...when you die....your ego(you)decays and it starts all over agin.

 

[Michael Scally MD]

The Science of Religion
THE SCIENCE OF RELIGION by Gregory S. Paul

Unlike science, which goes where the evidence and analysis indicate and is anti-mythical in nature, religion is inherently dogmatic and opinion based, with myths being integral to the system.

One of these myths, widely held by nearly all theists as well as many skeptics of the supernatural, is that science cannot be used to address and answer many core issues of religious belief.

In this view rational, objective science and faith-based religion are separate magisteria that are equally legitimate thought systems, and that cannot profoundly comment upon one another.

As popular as this view is – in part because it offers a politically correct means of avoiding awkward conflict between the scientific and religious realms – it is demonstrably false.

 

[Michael Scally MD]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ew_cNONhhKI]God is not a Good Theory (Sean Carroll) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Liffalot]

Taking multiple religious philosophy classes on the writings of Moses Maimonides really changed my perspective on the issue.

Bear with me because trying to summarize Maimonides in a few sentences is quite a task and cant properly hold the weight of his writings. One of the interesting things about Maimonides (who is himself Jewish) is that he does everything with a sense of pragmatism and respect for logic. He doesn't buy into the whole "faith" principle because it is a blind, illogical acceptance of imagined authority, nor does he read a literalist interpretation of the Old Testament like some ignoramuses do.

Essentially the conclusion that Maimonides comes to is that there is a creator, God, but that he is not active in the affairs of the earth. Rather, his will and providence is manifested through adherence to the laws of nature, and reward and punishment is simply a natural and inevitable response to an action that goes against these natural laws (the same way that jumping off of a cliff defies the laws of gravity, inevitably you will splatter on the ground when you land).

I don't believe in god myself, but I do think that its worth re-reading the Old Testament (because we all know that the New Testament was Roman propaganda to divide the Jews ) and think of the order of nature as being "god" whenever it is mentioned. It really is a great metaphorical representation of the human condition and the development of the world.

 

[dnoyez]

Taking multiple religious philosophy classes on the writings of Moses Maimonides really changed my perspective on the issue.

Bear with me because trying to summarize Maimonides in a few sentences is quite a task and cant properly hold the weight of his writings. One of the interesting things about Maimonides (who is himself Jewish) is that he does everything with a sense of pragmatism and respect for logic. He doesn't buy into the whole "faith" principle because it is a blind, illogical acceptance of imagined authority, nor does he read a literalist interpretation of the Old Testament like some ignoramuses do.

Essentially the conclusion that Maimonides comes to is that there is a creator, God, but that he is not active in the affairs of the earth. Rather, his will and providence is manifested through adherence to the laws of nature, and reward and punishment is simply a natural and inevitable response to an action that goes against these natural laws (the same way that jumping off of a cliff defies the laws of gravity, inevitably you will splatter on the ground when you land).

I don't believe in god myself, but I do think that its worth re-reading the Old Testament (because we all know that the New Testament was Roman propaganda to divide the Jews ) and think of the order of nature as being "god" whenever it is mentioned. It really is a great metaphorical representation of the human condition and the development of the world.

the mechanics and nature of our reality is god....

 

[Michael Scally MD]

 

[BBC3]

Ya know. I really have to ponder this one. Already have a wife who is CRAZY as any other women who experiences the EFFECTS of ESTROGEN, and KNOWING that SOON my daughters will come of age. I now have to realize that I will be living in a house with THREE FREAGGG'N WOMEN...!. Whats worse, is that the two I made may actually mean so much to me that I wont be able to even turn them off in my mind when required.. Worse, as their WORST TIMES will be my MOST CONCERNING. I am doomed as I already see how parenting is truly the death of us..

So now imagine Hugh. ALL THESE WOMEN. Do you really think he just gets to bang them and not make payment in "RECEIPT OF INSANITY LAMENTED". The same type we all experience from a wife. Except he has 10 THOUSAND of them ALL wanting to "share their womanhood with him". Not lets examine that one as we all know the only thing women want is is a $trong man. Besides, there QUICKLY becomes no point to a sexual interaction if their is no "active person" on the other end. Else you might as well install a heating pad in your blow up doll.. Well you cant have your cake and eat it too can you.. So All I see is one of the most TORMENTED MEN ON THE PLANET. Further, and now that he is OLD and lack physical youth. He HAS TO KNOW they are only fucking him for his $$. he has to know he is not attractive to them and that they would rather be blowing his pool boy. He has to look in the mirror and know his best days are gone. Now what is all the Money worth. Now what do those women really bring him? PURE HELL. A constant reminder of his age, the fact that all they care about is $$, and CONSTANT CRAZY WOMAN HEAD SHIT... And the biggest bitch of all being that unless he has someone he holds dear FROM BEFORE HIS FORTUNES, there is NO WAY he could ever know if anyone truly loves him. It would be impossible. He would have to disappear to a remove village with no TV or Press and then get in the mix for 3-5 years to find an equivalently aged person and mix it up till he found her. But how many of us find that truly anyway...

"To live unloved is to be the walking dead..."

He MAY INDEED be the best candidate for a man that will truly be happier once gone...!

 

[Dr JIM]

Well now unless you believe those are all VIRGIN TENS, some no doubt will be better off. Hef?

Once deceased some believe Hef will become; a part of that critical molecule for the next primordial universe, an Oregon tree seedling aptly placed for the next generation of "tree huggers", a middle of the road destination for those not all that "bad" like purgatory perhaps, and still others suspect adulterers and fornicators of his ilk are bound for hades regardless.


Heaven you say for Hef!

God only knows but those whom believe there is no better place to be than surrounded by 20 has been models, poked by 30 dudes, most with enough silicone to "winter proof" 100 residential homes, many headed for a career at Hustler, a better place is relatively easy to locate and death is not necessary, IMO

 

[dnoyez]

Well now unless you believe those are all VIRGIN TENS, some no doubt will be better off. Hef?

Once deceased some believe Hef will become; a part of that critical molecule for the next primordial universe, an Oregon tree seedling aptly placed for the next generation of "tree huggers", a middle of the road destination for those not all that "bad" like purgatory perhaps, and still others suspect adulterers and fornicators of his ilk are bound for hades regardless.

Heaven you say for Hef!

God only knows but those whom believe there is no better place to be than surrounded by 20 has been models, poked by 30 dudes, most with enough silicone to "winter proof" 100 residential homes, many headed for a career at Hustler, a better place is relatively easy to locate and death is not necessary, IMO

maybe hef will be the critical molecules of a plastic penis pump in his next life... but really 30 sagbag has been models are overrated and he may already be in hell by the looks of the pic.

 

[Liffalot]

the mechanics and nature of our reality is god....

Precisely. Thus the "reward and punishment" and "heaven and hell" metaphors are simply truths about how nature reacts to your concordance or dissonance with it.

 

[dnoyez]

Precisely. Thus the "reward and punishment" and "heaven and hell" metaphors are simply truths about how nature reacts to your concordance or dissonance with it.

duality.... its all around us its almost so simple it is laughable....

the big cosmic joke

duality=ying yang,big small,happy sad,good bad,up down,fast slow,clean dirty,it goes on forever .... two balls ,two eyes,two arms,two feet,two ears,two lungs,night day... Action Reaction....

that's the construct of our reality in our little heads....our god...

 

[Dr JIM]

Nature is void of both a cerebral cortex and brain stem which places "it" at the neuro-interactive level of a "veggie".

I'm told there are a few folks who apologize to their salad before eating it, but I haven't reached that "level" concordance or dissonance just yet.

 

[dnoyez]

Nature is void of both a cerebral cortex and brain stem which places "it" at the neuro-interactive level of a "veggie".

I'm told there are a few folks who apologize to their salad before eating it, but I haven't reached that "level" concordance or dissonance just yet.

well a few folks believe we are all one and reality is a grand illusion

 

[nuncaquite]

blow up doll.. Well you cant have your cake and eat it too can you.. So All I see is one of the most TORMENTED MEN ON THE PLANET. Further, and now that he is OLD and lack physical youth. He HAS TO KNOW they are only fucking him for his $$. he has to know he is not attractive to them and that they would rather be blowing his pool boy. He has to look in the mirror and know his best days are gone. Now what is all the Money worth. Now what do those women really bring him? PURE HELL. A constant reminder of his age, the fact that all they care about is $$, and CONSTANT CRAZY WOMAN HEAD SHIT... And the biggest bitch of all being that unless he has someone he holds dear FROM BEFORE HIS FORTUNES, there is NO WAY he could ever know if anyone truly loves him.
!

The unloved old usually drown the sorry in toddies......Excuse me, Ive got to go top off my drink.
It is sad to see someone old and alone in that way. They begin to live kinda in the moment. Enjoying a decent conversation or laugh with a stranger. No longer expecting anything real from life. Bad choice's are (usually) the cause.

 

[Liffalot]

Nature is void of both a cerebral cortex and brain stem which places "it" at the neuro-interactive level of a "veggie".

I'm told there are a few folks who apologize to their salad before eating it, but I haven't reached that "level" concordance or dissonance just yet.

I'm not talking about nature as in trees and rocks and dirt, that's why I tried to use the term the "order of nature" because its supposed to reference the order of everything as it is - not just "natural" things. "Order of the universe" might be a better way to put it.

Anyway I need to smoke a few more bowls before I say any more on this topic [)][)][)]

 

[keriheat]

well a few folks believe we are all one and reality is a grand illusion

Sooo......If you smack your thumb with a hammer...all that pain and swelling is a "grand illusion"....is it not?