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There's crazy atheists too.
http://www.boreme.com/posting.php?id=37317 (Atheist loses it at UC Berkeley)
http://www.boreme.com/posting.php?id=37317 (Atheist loses it at UC Berkeley)
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Why there almost certainly is No God!!
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKA6vHx1Ur4]21 Facts that Evolutionists CAN'T ANSWER! - YouTube[/ame]
Holy Logic: Computer Scientists 'Prove' God Exists
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Scientists Use Computer to Mathematically Prove Gödel God Theorem - SPIEGEL ONLINE
TheHamburglar
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I love these discussions and the things that you learn in some of them, and I always appreciate a healthy debate since it allows you the opportunity to view the same thing from different perspectives.
But anyone trying to attack or ridicule another over their personal beliefs is what I can't stand. Atheists who walk around thinking they are the all know everything with a pompous attitude, Christians who believe everyone else is a sinner, Muslims who believe we're infidels, and Jews who think they are the chosen ones. Fuck off, everyone is a person and should have the right to believe whatever the fuck they wants.
Although my problem with the God shit is that man chooses to use the name of an omnipotent being to start wars and commit heinous crimes against his fellow man. Abrahamic religions have conquered and pillaged, raped women, enslaved, desecrated others sacred land all in the name of their God so that makes it ok. Fuck them.
They are on par with child molesters to me, the catholic church and NAMBLA, how much fuckin horrible shit can you do and try to paint it into a pretty picture?
But anyone trying to attack or ridicule another over their personal beliefs is what I can't stand. Atheists who walk around thinking they are the all know everything with a pompous attitude, Christians who believe everyone else is a sinner, Muslims who believe we're infidels, and Jews who think they are the chosen ones. Fuck off, everyone is a person and should have the right to believe whatever the fuck they wants.
Although my problem with the God shit is that man chooses to use the name of an omnipotent being to start wars and commit heinous crimes against his fellow man. Abrahamic religions have conquered and pillaged, raped women, enslaved, desecrated others sacred land all in the name of their God so that makes it ok. Fuck them.
They are on par with child molesters to me, the catholic church and NAMBLA, how much fuckin horrible shit can you do and try to paint it into a pretty picture?
smiles
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just in case for anyone who didn't already know...We are so insignificant in the universe....why us? Why are we so special? Why have 500 billion galaxies if we're so damn special?
Humanity’s infinitesimally tiny influence on the universe, or why we haven’t met any aliens yet | ExtremeTech
Humanity’s infinitesimally tiny influence on the universe, or why we haven’t met any aliens yet | ExtremeTech
smiles
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I have always enjoyed watching space, storms, nature, wildlife, ect... One of the coolest things I got to see was the eye of a hurricane, 149 mile hour gust with 120-130 sustained winds, that was a trip in a half... Now space, that is why I love the country/small towns cause you can see space in action with out the interruption of the city lights and smog... One time I thought I seen a UFO, but as I got older and understood that it was our government cause they like to experiment there new toys over small towns and blame it in aliens... Lol maybe it could of been Aliens or the government that is something I will never probably know... That was a little off subject, but that brought back some cool memories... 
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8f70wZ-mLR8]A Manual for Creating Atheist - Book Review - YouTube[/ame]
corageon
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Honestly, I've always believed the main difference between the bodybuilders who are on "juice", who have killed their families, is that they were not faithful, chose to give into their paranoid/hostile temptation (induced by the devil, amplified by the chemical signals by what they were using, roids + stims).
It's not the roids, but the personality, the impulsivity and the mindset (which correlates to morals and the level of conscience and spiritual balance).
That's why there is such extreme differences in personalities, you have the ruling elite and the government who are corrupt, professional liars, and many of them psychopathic murderers as well, and then you have the common religious/spiritual citizens of different dimensions. The ruling elite are established upon money, power and the devils influence (the evil consciousness). The intentions are evil because they choose to savor and go for money and power. But again, it is the spiritual "dark side" that exists to maintain and reinforce these intentions.
It is a great mystery, that's why science hasn't fully decoded it, nor ever will decode the spiritual realm. It's something not a lot of people want to believe in, because the purely scientific view on the way things work has become so dominant and ubiquitous in society. But notice how the truth is always harder to find, and seems to come last. People should think to themselves, is life really that simple, is this really the only life, why do things really happen the way they do. What REALLY causes serial killings, mass murder, giant schemes, world wars, what's behind the personality of such evil peoples. Is it really a coincidence that Christians and good spirituals have such a "warming" presence (true christians, not hypocrites).
corageon
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That's because there's very FEW real Christians and Spiritualists, that aren't hypocrites, the hypocrites make it harder for the unbelievers and the believers alike. The Catholic Church is an Anti-Christ Entity, entirely hypocritical and inside they worship other Gods (Pagan). They have trillions of dollars, and massive amounts of resources...why is there Poverty still ? Their greed, their evil. The Vatican and the Catholic Heirarchy is the biggest Blasphemy on Earth!!
smiles
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That was awesome!!!!
nuncaquite
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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/seanthomas/100231060/are-atheists-mentally-ill/ (Are atheists mentally ill? – Telegraph Blogs)
Are atheists mentally ill?
By Sean Thomas Religion Last updated: A
No wonder they're happy
Thanks to a couple of surveys, it’s being put about in certain circles that atheists have higher IQs than believers. That may or may not be the case, but one problem with this argument is that, if you accept "average group differences in IQ”, you get into all sorts of sinister debates which bien pensant atheist Lefties might find less to their liking.
So let’s not go down that unhappy road. Let’s dispense with the crude metric of IQ and look at the actual lives led by atheists, and believers, and see how they measure up. In other words: let’s see who is living more intelligently.
And guess what: it’s the believers. A vast body of research, amassed over recent decades, shows that religious belief is physically and psychologically beneficial – to a remarkable degree.
In 2004, scholars at UCLA revealed that college students involved in religious activities are likely to have better mental health. In 2006, population researchers at the University of Texas discovered that the more often you go to church, the longer you live. In the same year researchers at Duke University in America discovered that religious people have stronger immune systems than the irreligious. They also established that churchgoers have lower blood pressure.
Meanwhile in 2009 a team of Harvard psychologists discovered that believers who checked into hospital with broken hips reported less depression, had shorter hospital stays, and could hobble further when they left hospital – as compared to their similarly crippled but heathen fellow-sufferers.
The list goes on. In the last few years scientists have revealed that believers, compared to non-believers, have better outcomes from breast cancer, coronary disease, mental illness, Aids, and rheumatoid arthritis. Believers even get better results from IVF. Likewise, believers also report greater levels of happiness, are less likely to commit suicide, and cope with stressful events much better. Believers also have more kids.
What’s more, these benefits are visible even if you adjust for the fact that believers are less likely to smoke, drink or take drugs. And let’s not forget that religious people are nicer. They certainly give more money to charity than atheists, who are, according to the very latest survey, the meanest of all.
So which is the smart party, here? Is it the atheists, who live short, selfish, stunted little lives – often childless – before they approach hopeless death in despair, and their worthless corpses are chucked in a trench (or, if they are wrong, they go to Hell)? Or is it the believers, who live longer, happier, healthier, more generous lives, and who have more kids, and who go to their quietus with ritual dignity, expecting to be greeted by a smiling and benevolent God?
Obviously, it’s the believers who are smarter. Anyone who thinks otherwise is mentally ill.
And I mean that literally: the evidence today implies that atheism is a form of mental illness. And this is because science is showing that the human mind is hard-wired for faith: we have, as a species, evolved to believe, which is one crucial reason why believers are happier – religious people have all their faculties intact, they are fully functioning humans.
Therefore, being an atheist – lacking the vital faculty of faith – should be seen as an affliction, and a tragic deficiency: something akin to blindness. Which makes Richard Dawkins the intellectual equivalent of an amputee, furiously waving his stumps in the air, boasting that he has no hands.
Are atheists mentally ill?
By Sean Thomas Religion Last updated: A
No wonder they're happy
Thanks to a couple of surveys, it’s being put about in certain circles that atheists have higher IQs than believers. That may or may not be the case, but one problem with this argument is that, if you accept "average group differences in IQ”, you get into all sorts of sinister debates which bien pensant atheist Lefties might find less to their liking.
So let’s not go down that unhappy road. Let’s dispense with the crude metric of IQ and look at the actual lives led by atheists, and believers, and see how they measure up. In other words: let’s see who is living more intelligently.
And guess what: it’s the believers. A vast body of research, amassed over recent decades, shows that religious belief is physically and psychologically beneficial – to a remarkable degree.
In 2004, scholars at UCLA revealed that college students involved in religious activities are likely to have better mental health. In 2006, population researchers at the University of Texas discovered that the more often you go to church, the longer you live. In the same year researchers at Duke University in America discovered that religious people have stronger immune systems than the irreligious. They also established that churchgoers have lower blood pressure.
Meanwhile in 2009 a team of Harvard psychologists discovered that believers who checked into hospital with broken hips reported less depression, had shorter hospital stays, and could hobble further when they left hospital – as compared to their similarly crippled but heathen fellow-sufferers.
The list goes on. In the last few years scientists have revealed that believers, compared to non-believers, have better outcomes from breast cancer, coronary disease, mental illness, Aids, and rheumatoid arthritis. Believers even get better results from IVF. Likewise, believers also report greater levels of happiness, are less likely to commit suicide, and cope with stressful events much better. Believers also have more kids.
What’s more, these benefits are visible even if you adjust for the fact that believers are less likely to smoke, drink or take drugs. And let’s not forget that religious people are nicer. They certainly give more money to charity than atheists, who are, according to the very latest survey, the meanest of all.
So which is the smart party, here? Is it the atheists, who live short, selfish, stunted little lives – often childless – before they approach hopeless death in despair, and their worthless corpses are chucked in a trench (or, if they are wrong, they go to Hell)? Or is it the believers, who live longer, happier, healthier, more generous lives, and who have more kids, and who go to their quietus with ritual dignity, expecting to be greeted by a smiling and benevolent God?
Obviously, it’s the believers who are smarter. Anyone who thinks otherwise is mentally ill.
And I mean that literally: the evidence today implies that atheism is a form of mental illness. And this is because science is showing that the human mind is hard-wired for faith: we have, as a species, evolved to believe, which is one crucial reason why believers are happier – religious people have all their faculties intact, they are fully functioning humans.
Therefore, being an atheist – lacking the vital faculty of faith – should be seen as an affliction, and a tragic deficiency: something akin to blindness. Which makes Richard Dawkins the intellectual equivalent of an amputee, furiously waving his stumps in the air, boasting that he has no hands.
nuncaquite
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According to a study in the American Journal of American Psychiatry atheists have a substantial higher rate of suicide than people that have some type of religious affiliation.
I think this study shows how rewarding being an atheist can be....like being unhappy, unfulfilled, bitter, depressed, detached, and generally overall miserable people. The posts on this site authored by atheists seem to bare this conclusion out.
RESULTS: Religiously unaffiliated subjects had significantly more lifetime suicide attempts and more first-degree relatives who committed suicide than subjects who endorsed a religious affiliation. Unaffiliated subjects were younger, less often married, less often had children, and had less contact with family members. Furthermore, subjects with no religious affiliation perceived fewer reasons for living, particularly fewer moral objections to suicide. In terms of clinical characteristics, religiously unaffiliated subjects had more lifetime impulsivity, aggression, and past substance use disorder.
Additional Details
Here is the link to the study:http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/cont...
Published by the American Journal of Psychiatry. Hardly a religious organization. Again the reactions by our atheist friends here certainly shows their self-denial and willingness to face reality.
There is also a lot of correlation between homosexuality and atheism
Not that there is anything wrong with either.
I think this study shows how rewarding being an atheist can be....like being unhappy, unfulfilled, bitter, depressed, detached, and generally overall miserable people. The posts on this site authored by atheists seem to bare this conclusion out.
RESULTS: Religiously unaffiliated subjects had significantly more lifetime suicide attempts and more first-degree relatives who committed suicide than subjects who endorsed a religious affiliation. Unaffiliated subjects were younger, less often married, less often had children, and had less contact with family members. Furthermore, subjects with no religious affiliation perceived fewer reasons for living, particularly fewer moral objections to suicide. In terms of clinical characteristics, religiously unaffiliated subjects had more lifetime impulsivity, aggression, and past substance use disorder.
Additional Details
Here is the link to the study:http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/cont...
Published by the American Journal of Psychiatry. Hardly a religious organization. Again the reactions by our atheist friends here certainly shows their self-denial and willingness to face reality.
There is also a lot of correlation between homosexuality and atheism
Not that there is anything wrong with either.
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Except I'm not unhappy, unfulfilled, bitter, depressed, detached, or generally overall miserable.
I'm actually quite happy, content, fulfilled both professionally and personally, I have a great family, money, a wife I'm head of heals for and she for me. I work 32 hours per week and I challenge anyone here to spend more time with their children. I see them off to school and most days I'm there when they get off the bus. We eat dinner at the table every night together. I have my health......
The authors of those articles clearly had an agenda....
I'm actually quite happy, content, fulfilled both professionally and personally, I have a great family, money, a wife I'm head of heals for and she for me. I work 32 hours per week and I challenge anyone here to spend more time with their children. I see them off to school and most days I'm there when they get off the bus. We eat dinner at the table every night together. I have my health......
The authors of those articles clearly had an agenda....
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Do you see any need for a spiritual path in your life, or to provide that avenue for your children?
Spiritual yes....religious not necessarily. I can wholeheartedly embrace science and still admit it doesn't nearly explain everything. I can learn about the Big Bang but it doesn't explain what happened before the BB...who or what was responsible for it. Is there an omnipotent power in Universe? I don't know but I'm fairly sure if there is it has NOTHING to do with Jesus Christ, Allah or any other man-made religion. At the same time I understand why people needed to make up those stories and I think they are mostly good.....and they do good.....but I can't pretend I have faith in a religion when I don't. I can believe in God and talk to God (have spiritually) without having to subscribe to one religion.
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smiles
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I feel the same way idm... I don't believe that I need to follow a religion to be happy is there a god? Idk, and I won't know till the day i die... Nevertheless I do believe it is important to teach or children about go and science as well, when they get older they can chose there path for a belief system if any at all...
"The devil walks among us. He is everywhere like never before. This is also his weakness as he has spread himself thin. A war is coming and already raging. Leaders will arise. All is a cycle which god created. The wound on his foot festers, but also bleeds. It's only a matter of time before he looks down again. Then he will tend to the wound and clean up the mess. Messiahs do not rise, they are chosen. We ALL choose what to see. Even a blind dog dog finds the bone eventually. He then realizes licking balls is not all that. He is happy. He is a dog. A man can believe, however no power of judgement is granted. I am somewhere between. I am ME... DOES a hair TURN gray? WHO am I..."
"Either God can do nothing to stop catastrophes like this, or he doesn’t care to, or he doesn’t exist. God is either impotent, evil or imaginary," Harris said after Japan's tsunami. "Take your pick, and choose wisely."
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