Why there almost certainly is No God!!


in at about 4:40 is a great quote from the movie jacobs ladder.

"eckhart saw hell too. you know what he said. 'the only thing that burns in hell is the part of you that wont let go of life, your memories, your attachments. they burn them all away. but theyre not punishing you,' he said 'theyre freeing your soul. so if youre frightened of dying and... youre holding on, youll see devils tearing your life away. but if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the earth.'"
 
In U.S., 42% Believe Creationist View of Human Origins
http://www.gallup.com/poll/170822/believe-creationist-view-human-origins.aspx


More than four in 10 Americans continue to believe that God created humans in their present form 10,000 years ago, a view that has changed little over the past three decades. Half of Americans believe humans evolved, with the majority of these saying God guided the evolutionary process. However, the percentage who say God was not involved is rising.
 
All I know is you can find a damn E.T./Alien show on every channel these days that are supposed to be releasing REAL and previously classified information... Its some good footage and interesting documentation too....! Something has got to give soon..!

BTW - the board looks good Millard. Whatever you changed... My computer is moving thru it like its ARSE is ON FIRE....! LOL
 
Mommie Dearest
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/fighting_words/2003/10/mommie_dearest.html

I think it was Macaulay who said that the Roman Catholic Church deserved great credit for, and owed its longevity to, its ability to handle and contain fanaticism. This rather oblique compliment belongs to a more serious age. What is so striking about the "beatification" of the woman who styled herself "Mother" Teresa is the abject surrender, on the part of the church, to the forces of showbiz, superstition, and populism.

It's the sheer tawdriness that strikes the eye first of all. It used to be that a person could not even be nominated for "beatification," the first step to "sainthood," until five years after his or her death. This was to guard against local or popular enthusiasm in the promotion of dubious characters. The pope nominated MT a year after her death in 1997. It also used to be that an apparatus of inquiry was set in train, including the scrutiny of an advocatus diaboli or "devil's advocate," to test any extraordinary claims. The pope has abolished this office and has created more instant saints than all his predecessors combined as far back as the 16th century.
 
What predicts religiosity?

Weeden J, Kurzban R. What predicts religiosity? A multinational analysis of reproductive and cooperative morals. Evolution and Human Behavior 2013;34(6):440-5. http://www.ehbonline.org/article/S1090-5138(13)00090-1/abstract

Theories of the sources of contemporary individual differences in religiosity have been proposed involving religiosity’s role both in

(1) enhancing within-group cooperation and
(2) supporting high-commitment reproductive strategies.

The present study used data from 296,959 individuals in around 90 countries from the World Values Survey/European Values Study to test the relative strength of individual differences in cooperative morals and reproductive morals in predicting individual differences in religiosity.

Cooperative morals tended not to predict religiosity either substantially or in a consistent direction across world regions when entered simultaneously with reproductive morals.

In contrast, more-restrictive reproductive morals were significant predictors of increased religiosity in every region, with the size of the relationship being small in poorer regions and large in wealthier regions.

These findings run counter to the view that religiosity has a fundamental connection with cooperative morals; instead, particularly in developed countries, individuals’ relationships with religious groups are more closely aligned with reproductive strategies.
 
The British Just Banned Something Taught to Millions of American Students
http://www.policymic.com/articles/91555/the-british-just-banned-something-taught-to-millions-of-american-students

Teaching students that creationism is an evidence-based theory is now banned in all public schools across the United Kingdom, according to new documents from the British government. Here are the new standards, which institute a:

...requirement for every academy and free school to provide a broad and balanced curriculum in any case prevents the teaching of creationism as evidence based theory in any academy or free school.

 
Creationist Ministries Provide a Distorted View of Human Evolution
http://reports.ncse.com/index.php/rncse/article/view/304/528

One of the most popular young-earth creationist arguments is that “there are no transitional forms.” This is a criticism frequently leveled at human evolution, with many creationists noting the paucity of fossil evidence for our species’ development. Institute for Creation Research founder Henry M Morris, for example, claimed, “all known fossils of ancient humans would fit on a billiard table.”

This is an argument that continues to be made, with some of the young-earth creationists who attended the debate between Ken Ham and Bill Nye asking, “Why is there only one Lucy?”

The fact of the matter is that this claim is simply wrong. We have found tens of thousands of hominin fossils (remains more closely related to modern humans than chimpanzees), representing over 6000 individuals, dozens of which are just as scientifically important as Lucy (AL 288-1).

The hominin fossil record is far from complete, but there is nevertheless an overwhelming body of evidence in favor of human evolution. How then could these young-earth creationists still be complaining that too few hominin fossils have been discovered?

I hypothesize that the large young-earth creationist ministries, such as Answers in Genesis (who hosted the debate between Ken Ham and Bill Nye) are not providing accurate representations of the human fossil record. If they focused on a select few examples, such as the Lucy specimen, and minimized or omitted references to others, this would create the false impression that the number of hominin fossils is much smaller than it actually is.

Thus, if people relied upon these organizations as their primary source of information on human evolution, they would wind up with a distorted view that might lead them to ask “Why is there only one Lucy?”

This paper tests this hypothesis.

Conclusion:

It is apparent that Answers in Genesis (AiG), the Institute for Creation Research (ICR), and Creation Ministries International (CMI) are presenting a distorted view of human evolution, glossing over critical fossils and creating the false impression that there is little evidence for human evolution. In fact, the evidence is voluminous.

I do not mean to argue that this distortion is intentional deception; writers at these organizations may simply be unaware of the vast majority of paleoanthropological literature, or perhaps prefer to discuss Lucy, as it is the example with which they are most familiar.

Regardless of the ultimate cause, the end result is clear: people who rely on AiG, CMI, and/ or the ICR for information on human evolution will wind up woefully underestimating the hominin fossil record.
 
It occurs to me...

The BOTTOM LINE is that the TRUTH of the MATTER - is that ANYONE who would contest EITHER WAY either BELIEVES or DISBELIEVES to Believe. The real value of the proof of this thread is that ANYONE that involves with it MUST BELIEVE there is a GOD. Else they would not have a STAKE.

"Mirror Logic Prevails" (Seeing something in a mirror, from WITHIN the mirror)

- And the harder the ones that argue there is NO GOD, the more they FEAR there MAY be one.

- And the harder the ones that argue there IS A GOD, the more they FEAR there MAY NOT be one.

- The COMMON DENOMINATOR is GOD, In BOTH Arguments - THEREFORE HE EXISTS.

The REAL CONCERN is those that have no say. Because these are the ones that MAY DEFY the CONCEPT ALL TOGETHER. These are the ones that DO NOT EVEN ACKNOWLEDGE. These are the ONLY ONES not subject to these principles. These are the SOCIAL RISK that is...

The ENTIRE POINT of an Argument like this, is to PREVENT the NOTION of GOD FROM NOT EXISTING. It is a mere smoke and light show as an ENIGMA to ATTRACT, CAPTURE, AND DISTRACT - from the next LAYER...

While I should not have even said this, I self-exonerate by proclamation alone. The lone wolf is out there - be mindful... And these are NOT his concerns.... The ONLY Equalizer appears to be GAIN, and which is a double edge Sword unto its self...:confused:;):)
 
To be clear to the DOC. I was not assuming ANY position on his part or behalf in ANY Statement / EVER. I was only pointed out this layer of the argument, and how it relates to CONSCIOUSNESS - as I see it.:);)

Jesus isn't coming back.
He's mything in action.
 
Jesus isn't coming back.
He's mything in action.
"Mything in action". Hahaha! Love it! Can't believe not only this thread is on this site but that there are so many knowledgeable people on creationist fallacies, etc. This topic is kinda my hobby these days coincidentally outside the gym. Awesome.
 
I had a DREAM the other NIGHT. I was in this casino. It seemed like it was a Biloxi Boat for half the time, and a Vegas hotel style casino the rest. It startled me. The association I was having with the boat casino was that I was righteous and vindicated - a winner. in the vegas one, I was in a bit of "self-doubt". The matter is as follows. I was winning at the blackjack table (which the only way to beat them there is to Out cheat them:mad::confused::eek::p, but there was some 15K which the "pitt bosses" were at odds with me being in possession of... I WAS NOT SURE if I had won the money and they were trying to take it back, or if I stole it somehow in unfair play and they were giving me the OPTION to pay it back... I do recall that i was COMMITTED to giving them the CASH regardless cause I did not want the headache, but somehow, things did not "time out"...

CLEARLY, I recall packing a bag in a land based hotel room and looking up to see the big guy come in and two of his associates close the door behind him. I was bent over at the foot of the bed across the room trying to shovel my last shit in my bag. I think the plan was to drop the money at the door on the way out... THE LONG AND SHORT is that I had this TERRIFYING KNOWLEDGE that they were NO LONGER there to NEGOTIATE. They were there to do business and be done with me - as I said a couple of word in attempt and POWERFULLY DISREgARDED. They wasted no time. I saw some communication between them as the door shut and the big guy looked over at me, raised a gun, and shot me in the neck. IT HURT LIKE A BITCH.. I next recall them standing over me at the foot of this bed having more QUICK CONVERSATION. I remember laying there with the feeling that a bullet had gone all the way thru my neck, and was basically poking out the other side. There was blood flowing, but no arteries hit. I KNEW it was a show. BUT THE KICKER was that I did not know it they were CONVINCED I WAS DEAD - So I lied there STILL and WANTING to stop the bleeding, but KNEW IF I DID, I would be looking at a FACE TO FACE BULLET TO THE BRAIN. It was horrifying....! The weird part was that the part of the dream where I was forced to lie still playing opossum seemed like an eternity...! EVEN WORSE, I was anticipating this MONSTER CONTROLLING MY MORTALITY. And visualizing that he would look down at me quickly and WITH NO REGARD and put my lights out.

The FEAR of DEATH and the UNKNOWN was NOT THE ISSUE. The HORROR associated with the particular INTERACTION was what sucked. What was the bad part was being at the hands of a cold monster and nothing I could do. The icing being that he did not give a shit one way or the other to EXIT me...

Turns out, I then awoke to find a pillow twisting the SHIT out of my neck in my daughter's bed, as I had slept there that night - it not having the best support.... LOL ...

AND NO- I never got to experience the feeling of the final shot. The anxiety and the WAIT to see if he was going to put "a final couple" in me to be sure WAS THE HORRIBLE PART...!

 
That I got myself in trouble when I knew it would happen... Bottom line... So I am addressing...

So what is your impression of the above TOOL message..?

For that matter check out these little fucking aliens. Watch at least till the girl starts vocals...! It will BREATH SOME FUKING LIFE AND PRIDE IN HUMANITY RIGHT INTO YA...!



BBC3, what is your personal interpretaion of that dream?
 
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