Why You Shouldn't Accept Free Samples From Sources

It’s definitely a small price to pay when the payout will double that more than likely.
Also shows your at least serious about sourcing and proving your product.
The time of taking a sources word for things is over, with testing so available.
Sources that have came and promised things only by their word has been caught trying to scam people too often.
These scamming sources just makes it harder on a new source here.
Don’t take it personally but your words will hold no weight here because of that. I suggest have testing done and prove yourself.
Then maybe if you can hold up through the vetting process your word may carry a little more weight.
It’s no doubt a bit discouraging when being met with skepticism but it makes the eventual trust of people that much more valuable. I wouldn’t mind doing some contests for gear while waiting for the testing but that seems to have people skeptical.
 
It’s no doubt a bit discouraging when being met with skepticism but it makes the eventual trust of people that much more valuable. I wouldn’t mind doing some contests for gear while waiting for the testing but that seems to have people skeptical.
Probably not a good idea. It looks like you’re giving away free gear for reviews. In return the reviews won’t matter.
Maybe down the road when/if you become more established then you can run a contest or whatever. Imo, I wouldn’t do that right out the gate. It’s a bad look.
Or you can just do your intro in the underground and see how things go. Better have your ducks in a row though lol.
 
There have been several reports recently of members accepting free gear from sources. Most are newer members with high post counts and it occurred to me that many might not be aware that this practice is strongly discouraged on Meso.

Accepting free samples from sources who are trying to prove themselves or increase sales is a common practice on most forums, and everyone enjoys getting something for free. Unfortunately, when it comes to AAS venders, free gear creates several problems that adversely affect members.

The majority of sources offering free AAS are startup operations trying to build a name. While it may appear that they are doing you a favor by giving you freebies, they are in fact using you. They are buying you and your good name in order to gain the credibility that they desperately need, but haven't yet earned and certainly don't deserve. The vast majority of these sources have proven to be non-viable and few, if any, will still be in business six months later - usually leaving many customers holding bunk gear, or no gear at all, in their wake.

Established sources offering free samples aren't looking to build a name since they already have that. What they're after are increased sales, and there is no better way to increase sales than giving free gear to trusted veteran members in exchange for a favorable review of your products. In this case, the trusted veterans are also being used. The sources are buying the veteran's good name in order to increase sales from noobs.

Unfortunately, there is no shortage of members of the AAS community that are willing to allow sources to use their name, and many of these members never pay for their AAS. They use their status to get free steroids from sources, and some are willing to give favorable reviews to the highest bidder. These people are known as gear whores.

The argument gear whores use to justify their greed and selfishness (and that's what it is) is that the free gear allows them to determine whether or not the source has access to good gear, and that their review will benefit the community. That argument is nonsense. The free gear given for reviews will almost always be specially selected from a readily available, yet very limited stock that the vender knows is good. The gear whores know this and that's what they are counting on.

Once the favorable review of the free gear is given, the orders start coming in because members now see the source as credible and with good gear. However, the gear regular members receive will not be from the limited, specially selected known good stock the reviewer received, it will be from whatever stock the vender happens to have available and its quality is often poor and underdosed, and, in many cases, completely bunk. It's the old bait and switch.

Members who accept freebies have traded their credibility for a few free vials and should be called out for what they are - gear whores. And gear whores offer nothing of value to the community. Their reviews are worthless.

The only people to benefit from the practice of giving and accepting free gear is the member who received the free gear and the source who received credibility they haven't earned. Regular customers get screwed every time.

If anyone else (non-gear whores only) has anything to add, feel free.

Regards

CBS

These are all great points and as someone new to MESO I just want to say thanks for the good advice!
 
These are all great points and as someone new to MESO I just want to say thanks for the good advice!
yes i agree. as a noob, its easy to go to the most active threads and ASSUME its legit or that having nice bottles and well written posts mean its legit. apparently not.
i'm still flipping around attempting to pin down which vendors the senior members tend to trust.
seems risky to trust new vendors giveaways or even purchases. seems risky no matter what
 
Been around here for ages and I can attest to this.

I received some free gear from new sources and both times it was bunk or severely under-dosed. By the time I had results, these guys were already gone.
 
There have been several reports recently of members accepting free gear from sources. Most are newer members with high post counts and it occurred to me that many might not be aware that this practice is strongly discouraged on Meso.

Accepting free samples from sources who are trying to prove themselves or increase sales is a common practice on most forums, and everyone enjoys getting something for free. Unfortunately, when it comes to AAS venders, free gear creates several problems that adversely affect members.

The majority of sources offering free AAS are startup operations trying to build a name. While it may appear that they are doing you a favor by giving you freebies, they are in fact using you. They are buying you and your good name in order to gain the credibility that they desperately need, but haven't yet earned and certainly don't deserve. The vast majority of these sources have proven to be non-viable and few, if any, will still be in business six months later - usually leaving many customers holding bunk gear, or no gear at all, in their wake.

Established sources offering free samples aren't looking to build a name since they already have that. What they're after are increased sales, and there is no better way to increase sales than giving free gear to trusted veteran members in exchange for a favorable review of your products. In this case, the trusted veterans are also being used. The sources are buying the veteran's good name in order to increase sales from noobs.

Unfortunately, there is no shortage of members of the AAS community that are willing to allow sources to use their name, and many of these members never pay for their AAS. They use their status to get free steroids from sources, and some are willing to give favorable reviews to the highest bidder. These people are known as gear whores.

The argument gear whores use to justify their greed and selfishness (and that's what it is) is that the free gear allows them to determine whether or not the source has access to good gear, and that their review will benefit the community. That argument is nonsense. The free gear given for reviews will almost always be specially selected from a readily available, yet very limited stock that the vender knows is good. The gear whores know this and that's what they are counting on.

Once the favorable review of the free gear is given, the orders start coming in because members now see the source as credible and with good gear. However, the gear regular members receive will not be from the limited, specially selected known good stock the reviewer received, it will be from whatever stock the vender happens to have available and its quality is often poor and underdosed, and, in many cases, completely bunk. It's the old bait and switch.

Members who accept freebies have traded their credibility for a few free vials and should be called out for what they are - gear whores. And gear whores offer nothing of value to the community. Their reviews are worthless.

The only people to benefit from the practice of giving and accepting free gear is the member who received the free gear and the source who received credibility they haven't earned. Regular customers get screwed every time.

If anyone else (non-gear whores only) has anything to add, feel free.

Regards

CBS
How do i become a gear whore? This sounds awesome
 
This is a great thread for sure, lots of interesting takes.

I dont mind the contest thing with someone established already, but the best way to get started without giving freebies is a helluva sale open to everyone to try. They may not urn as much of a profit at first but if the issue is getting people tp try someone new, low low pricing for everyone for the first XX orders or XX months is the better way to go.

If one can afford to do that it looks good having a no minimum introductory fire sale so you can get feedback from hopefully a hundred plus people, and not just a few here and there from batch #1 of 2 of their products.

Raws are cheap so make some damn good Test prop and $10 a pop will still turn some profit and surely be jumped on by about everyone and their mother. If someone has 200 vials of good gear it looks better than a few select vials hand picked and sent for free.
 
There have been several reports recently of members accepting free gear from sources. Most are newer members with high post counts and it occurred to me that many might not be aware that this practice is strongly discouraged on Meso.

Accepting free samples from sources who are trying to prove themselves or increase sales is a common practice on most forums, and everyone enjoys getting something for free. Unfortunately, when it comes to AAS venders, free gear creates several problems that adversely affect members.

The majority of sources offering free AAS are startup operations trying to build a name. While it may appear that they are doing you a favor by giving you freebies, they are in fact using you. They are buying you and your good name in order to gain the credibility that they desperately need, but haven't yet earned and certainly don't deserve. The vast majority of these sources have proven to be non-viable and few, if any, will still be in business six months later - usually leaving many customers holding bunk gear, or no gear at all, in their wake.

Established sources offering free samples aren't looking to build a name since they already have that. What they're after are increased sales, and there is no better way to increase sales than giving free gear to trusted veteran members in exchange for a favorable review of your products. In this case, the trusted veterans are also being used. The sources are buying the veteran's good name in order to increase sales from noobs.

Unfortunately, there is no shortage of members of the AAS community that are willing to allow sources to use their name, and many of these members never pay for their AAS. They use their status to get free steroids from sources, and some are willing to give favorable reviews to the highest bidder. These people are known as gear whores.

The argument gear whores use to justify their greed and selfishness (and that's what it is) is that the free gear allows them to determine whether or not the source has access to good gear, and that their review will benefit the community. That argument is nonsense. The free gear given for reviews will almost always be specially selected from a readily available, yet very limited stock that the vender knows is good. The gear whores know this and that's what they are counting on.

Once the favorable review of the free gear is given, the orders start coming in because members now see the source as credible and with good gear. However, the gear regular members receive will not be from the limited, specially selected known good stock the reviewer received, it will be from whatever stock the vender happens to have available and its quality is often poor and underdosed, and, in many cases, completely bunk. It's the old bait and switch.

Members who accept freebies have traded their credibility for a few free vials and should be called out for what they are - gear whores. And gear whores offer nothing of value to the community. Their reviews are worthless.

The only people to benefit from the practice of giving and accepting free gear is the member who received the free gear and the source who received credibility they haven't earned. Regular customers get screwed every time.

If anyone else (non-gear whores only) has anything to add, feel free.

Regards

CBS
Ya there's a lot if these Whores up here in Canada .. Most of them are under the Syn pharma banner now
 
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