Why You Shouldn't Accept Free Samples From Sources

[Docd187123]

fair enough, however I still don't see the harm in promotion... there are always gonna be scammers but not everyone is...if you don't trust it lab the first paid for order... I don't see the harm... Respect your opinion tho..

The biggest harm in accepting free gear for you as the recipient is that the UGL knows you're likely to put in a good word for them especially if they send you good gear or gear from the "other batch". Once you make the review and ppl start buying on your recommendation, the lab may, and in many cases has, been known to start sending the bad gear out. The lab capitalizes on your recommendation, scams others and profits, you get used harder than a street hooker on a corner in Brooklyn and your reputation gets tanked faster than Enron's did. If you want to accept free gear that's your business but don't make a review based in thay

 

[Bruce Banner]

agreed!

 

[Bruce Banner]

The biggest harm in accepting free gear for you as the recipient is that the UGL knows you're likely to put in a good word for them especially if they send you good gear or gear from the "other batch". Once you make the review and ppl start buying on your recommendation, the lab may, and in many cases has, been known to start sending the bad gear out. The lab capitalizes on your recommendation, scams others and profits, you get used harder than a street hooker on a corner in Brooklyn and your reputation gets tanked faster than Enron's did. If you want to accept free gear that's your business but don't make a review based in thay

agreed!

 

[Bruce Banner]

not even the majority have ill intentions, majority want to get a big name sell lots of gear and have repeat business, make lots of money and never run into LE
both sides of this issue have points and merit, landing on one side or the other doesn't make you an asshole either way, but NOT having respect for the other view makes you an asshole in my book.

agreed! 100%

 

[Bruce Banner]

Don't labs sometimes add a little extra to orders for their long-time solid customers? In that case it may be acceptable as long as they didn't add any strings to that. I can see it's a problem for new labs

yes they do...

 

[nophat]

Not this lab.
I would rather add some extra to my brew than try to cheet for a couple extra $$$$

 

[bickel29]

Not this lab.
I would rather add some extra to my brew than try to cheet for a couple extra $$$$

Damn, Nophat going old school with the Avi! Haven't seen that pic around in a little while.

 

[joebrooklyn]

Thank you for the advice.

 

[slashlove]

Lot of sources are cutting the products....


"Pain is temporary, Pride is forever»

 

[fireman-163]

yeah man that sounds horrible...absolutely horrible. Can I get a list of these sources giving out free gear?? So I can be sure to stay away from them hahaha

 

[Sincityswole]

There have been several reports recently of members accepting free gear from sources. Most are newer members with high post counts and it occurred to me that many might not be aware that this practice is strongly discouraged on Meso.

Accepting free samples from sources who are trying to prove themselves or increase sales is a common practice on most forums, and everyone enjoys getting something for free. Unfortunately, when it comes to AAS venders, free gear creates several problems that adversely affect members.

The majority of sources offering free AAS are startup operations trying to build a name. While it may appear that they are doing you a favor by giving you freebies, they are in fact using you. They are buying you and your good name in order to gain the credibility that they desperately need, but haven't yet earned and certainly don't deserve. The vast majority of these sources have proven to be non-viable and few, if any, will still be in business six months later - usually leaving many customers holding bunk gear, or no gear at all, in their wake.

Established sources offering free samples aren't looking to build a name since they already have that. What they're after are increased sales, and there is no better way to increase sales than giving free gear to trusted veteran members in exchange for a favorable review of your products. In this case, the trusted veterans are also being used. The sources are buying the veteran's good name in order to increase sales from noobs.

Unfortunately, there is no shortage of members of the AAS community that are willing to allow sources to use their name, and many of these members never pay for their AAS. They use their status to get free steroids from sources, and some are willing to give favorable reviews to the highest bidder. These people are known as gear whores.

The argument gear whores use to justify their greed and selfishness (and that's what it is) is that the free gear allows them to determine whether or not the source has access to good gear, and that their review will benefit the community. That argument is nonsense. The free gear given for reviews will almost always be specially selected from a readily available, yet very limited stock that the vender knows is good. The gear whores know this and that's what they are counting on.

Once the favorable review of the free gear is given, the orders start coming in because members now see the source as credible and with good gear. However, the gear regular members receive will not be from the limited, specially selected known good stock the reviewer received, it will be from whatever stock the vender happens to have available and its quality is often poor and underdosed, and, in many cases, completely bunk. It's the old bait and switch.

Members who accept freebies have traded their credibility for a few free vials and should be called out for what they are - gear whores. And gear whores offer nothing of value to the community. Their reviews are worthless.

The only people to benefit from the practice of giving and accepting free gear is the member who received the free gear and the source who received credibility they haven't earned. Regular customers get screwed every time.

If anyone else (non-gear whores only) has anything to add, feel free.

Regards

CBS

This is a great post, I'm new and I've read a few of you're post cbs, very well spoken and articulate. It seems this is a prominent thing going on, however, I love the knowledge put out by yourself and some other vets it good to see a few soldiers unwilling to compromise integrity and also providing great info that's what it's about thank you.

 

[Str8Shooter]

And we've seen that with Pharmacom just now

Have there been issues with Pharmacon and or Darius?

 

[Str8Shooter]

This is a great post, I'm new and I've read a few of you're post cbs, very well spoken and articulate. It seems this is a prominent thing going on, however, I love the knowledge put out by yourself and some other vets it good to see a few soldiers unwilling to compromise integrity and also providing great info that's what it's about thank you.

I'm new too man. Trying to read between the lines, and get unbiased information from "normal" people is killing me! Everyone that interacts with me (ands that's very few) clearly has agendas and vested interests. Driving me crazy trying to figure out what is legit source. I'm hoping Pharmacom is legit. If you or anyone else could speak to me man to man, and shed ANY light, not just a source necessarily, I would be relieved.

 

[bickel29]

I'm new too man. Trying to read between the lines, and get unbiased information from "normal" people is killing me! Everyone that interacts with me (ands that's very few) clearly has agendas and vested interests. Driving me crazy trying to figure out what is legit source. I'm hoping Pharmacom is legit. If you or anyone else could speak to me man to man, and shed ANY light, not just a source necessarily, I would be relieved.

You're just gonna have to hang around, make connections, contribute where you can, and read the threads.

The one thing you shouldn't do is take someones word on a source bc they contact you and say so. At that point, I would consider them to have an agenda for contacting someone they don't know to offer up a source.

Believe that!

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Everyone that interacts with me (ands that's very few) clearly has agendas and vested interests.

I'll make this very simple: At Meso what you see is what you get. Anyone here with an agenda or vested interest (other than the truth), or even poor judgement, get exposed and called out. Any sources with a presence on Meso that are having problems or should be avoided are also exposed and called out. [The exception would be those who contact you privately, as Bickel said. Those people shouldn't be trusted.]

If you want to cut through the BS, don't look for who's good, look for who's not.

 

[Str8Shooter]

Appreciate the responses. I've been researching endlessly for quite awhile now trying to see consistencies as well as inconsistencies, and like I said, read between the lines. I've got more responses commenting on this post than I have in weeks of posting my own, or replying to others hoping for human interaction. This site definitely seems the most unbiased compared to other popular sites, I've joined posted and researched on a site got evolutionary.org, and cleary felt like they were honey dicking me. Are the reviews and top sellers list on eroids to be trusted at all? Thank y'all for the input.

 

[Str8Shooter]

I have a body building close friend (with results I can see) that sent me the email list for the company he uses, but I can't find anything about them anywhere on the net, and I'm leery because they sell Anavar in 50mg tabs, and I've heard that's risky. I don't know if I should trust my friends supply for things often faked like primo and var.

 

[Str8Shooter]

You're just gonna have to hang around, make connections, contribute where you can, and read the threads.

The one thing you shouldn't do is take someones word on a source bc they contact you and say so. At that point, I would consider them to have an agenda for contacting someone they don't know to offer up a source.

Believe that!

Thanks. That's exactly what I'm going to do, keep hanging around digging, learning and deducting, and hopefully make connections. I'll find threads and I hope I can contribute with sincerity or ask proper, relevant questions that can help me or others.

 

[bickel29]

Thanks. That's exactly what I'm going to do, keep hanging around digging, learning and deducting, and hopefully make connections. I'll find threads and I hope I can contribute with sincerity or ask proper, relevant questions that can help me or others.

If you do what you have outlined above ^^^ WITH SINCERITY you will have no shortage of fellow members willing to help you out.

We can be a tough crowd to get in with, but once you prove yourself, we are one of the best communities to be amongst.

True story.

 

[Str8Shooter]

If you do what you have outlined above ^^^ WITH SINCERITY you will have no shortage of fellow members willing to help you out.

We can be a tough crowd to get in with, but once you prove yourself, we are one of the best communities to be amongst.

True story.

Yes, so far this is the most legit -normal- if you will, community I've found out of a few major, and a few random forums. I'm 38 (wife 37) we've been into pretty serious (natural, with a little trt) lifting for four years. We are both pretty excellent responders to training and diet. And we are both (as well as our box) competitive in Crossfit (we disregard the negative of CF) the bulk of our work is always lifting and having good asthetics and strength. Anyway, we've taken the right steps and are ready to responsibly and conservatively get into some ASS. I'm always sincere, and hate wading through bullshit and constantly weighing evidence and reading between lines. Thanks again for the input, I'll be getting in where I can.