Wunderpus' get bigger cycle

[Seven]

Yeah I love it! I used to do a crossfit-style routine with it. Something like 1500M then 4 laps around the track (1/2 mile total) another 1500M on the row, etc. etc. They have a few at my new gym, but I am really partial towards the stairmaster lately.

The gym I go to doesn't have a stairmaster, crazy I know, they have a Jacob's Ladder its not the same. Your feet slip once you start sweating.

 

[rigs03]

Haha, I can't ever, EVER!, think of a time I have recommended anything like this. I suppose in a way it's glorified, based on my positive reactions and responses, but that's the nature of an honest log. It should incorporate the good, the bad and the ugly. Luckily, this has been mostly good.

@rigs03 what's the largest amount of test you've run?

Highest I've taken test was 2 grams. But it was with 2g eq and 1.8g tren along side it, and 100mg each of dbol and drol. That was a few years ago. I won't ever take any of those up that high again except for the test- I think after i stop the deca on this cycle I'm going to up the test which is at 1.5g to 2, then possibly 2.5, depending on how I feel. We shall see. I have some halo, m1t and drol in the reserve but will hold off on any orals for quite a while- maybe some dbol inject instead. This bulk will be followed by a longgg actual cruise.

 

[Wunderpus]

Highest I've taken test was 2 grams. But it was with 2g eq and 1.8g tren along side it, and 100mg each of dbol and drol. That was a few years ago. I won't ever take any of those up that high again except for the test- I think after i stop the deca on this cycle I'm going to up the test which is at 1.5g to 2, then possibly 2.5, depending on how I feel. We shall see. I have some halo, m1t and drol in the reserve but will hold off on any orals for quite a while- maybe some dbol inject instead. This bulk will be followed by a longgg actual cruise.

Will you marry me?

Ah, in all seriousness, 1.8G of tren? Wow. I've never gone above 700mg's, but that was component and/or fina brew. Was yours UGL? What were the fucking sides/ results like on that shit?!

I don't really go above 800 on deca, it kind of makes me feel like shit... Not sure why. Maybe if I threw caber in it would help, but caber scares me a bit.

Halo has always sounded so sexy to me, never tried it. Gotta imagine it's like when I mix TNE and tren base?

 

[Wunderpus]

The gym I go to doesn't have a stairmaster, crazy I know, they have a Jacob's Ladder its not the same. Your feet slip once you start sweating.

That thing is hard as fuck, too. What about real stairs? Incline treadmill is great as well!

 

[Roamer]

1.8 grams of tren? Yeah, who needs sleep? rest isn't required for muscle growth with that much tren !

1.8 grams of tren FTW

 

[rigs03]

Will you marry me?

Yes

Ah, in all seriousness, 1.8G of tren? Wow. I've never gone above 700mg's, but that was component and/or fina brew. Was yours UGL? What were the fucking sides/ results like on that shit?!

It was ugl, but a pretty reliable and reputable one (based on my personal experience anyway). As far as the sides, I can take crazy amounts of doses with low sides. A cursing and a blessing I suppose. Night sweats and overall sweating was through the roof when I first started the cycle at 800mg, hit went away as it always does for me. I only hit 1.8 towards the end of the cycle. I was bulking and found it hard to gain weight terms but of course the recomp and strength gains were *insane* Eventually I was getting no sleep and started to feel like absolute shit, so called it quits.

I don't like it much when bulking , and haven't used it for a while and probably won't for the foreseeable future. Love/hate thing. The best results I've ever had with it was cutting at about 800mg along side high mast and low test. 100% physique transforming.

I don't really go above 800 on deca, it kind of makes me feel like shit... Not sure why. Maybe if I threw caber in it would help, but caber scares me a bit.

I'm at 900 but only 2 weeks in, highest I've been at with it. Just trying it out. 600 is the highest until now, and don't imagine I will ever want/need to go higher.

1.8 grams of tren? Yeah, who needs sleep? rest isn't required for muscle growth with that much tren !

1.8 grams of tren FTW

Lol yea never again bro and your absolutely right about the sleep. Full on insomnia and it drove me near the brink of insanity. It's been a few years since then. That being said, I had sleep reoccurring but not constant issues before that.

 

[Roamer]

Curios as to what your liver values displayed with dosing that high? It is just hard for me to believe if the tren was decent at all, how you managed the sides. No skin problems with dosing that high? No prolactin issues? Tren is a beautiful creature, but certainly has an ugly side too. Also, what did your crit look like on at level? probably 90 weight gear oil.

 

[Wunderpus]

Yes



It was ugl, but a pretty reliable and reputable one (based on my personal experience anyway). As far as the sides, I can take crazy amounts of doses with low sides. A cursing and a blessing I suppose. Night sweats and overall sweating was through the roof when I first started the cycle at 800mg, hit went away as it always does for me. I only hit 1.8 towards the end of the cycle. I was bulking and found it hard to gain weight terms but of course the recomp and strength gains were *insane* Eventually I was getting no sleep and started to feel like absolute shit, so called it quits.

I don't like it much when bulking , and haven't used it for a while and probably won't for the foreseeable future. Love/hate thing. The best results I've ever had with it was cutting at about 800mg along side high mast and low test. 100% physique transforming.



I'm at 900 but only 2 weeks in, highest I've been at with it. Just trying it out. 600 is the highest until now, and don't imagine I will ever want/need to go higher.



Lol yea never again bro and your absolutely right about the sleep. Full on insomnia and it drove me near the brink of insanity. It's been a few years since then. That being said, I had sleep reoccurring but not constant issues before that.

I don't really like tren for bulking, either. The appetite suppression is enough to keep me off of it.

 

[mands]

***UPDATE***
I don't think GH pre workout is really for me. At first I thought it was the slin that was tiring me about, but the higher the GH went, the worse I got. I am going back to @mands suggestion of hitting all my GH before bed, I think. Either that or 2 IU AM and 3 IU before bed. I am going to buy some IGF-1LR3 to pin pre workout along with the slin, I'm hoping that shit doesn't tire me out like the GH does. Anyone know WHY GH makes you so lethargic? It's a tad bit irritating.

How long have you been running the GH again buddy? Are you running t4?

You should eventually normal out some and the lethargy should go away.

mands

 

[Wunderpus]

How long have you been running the GH again buddy? Are you running t4?

You should eventually normal out some and the lethargy should go away.

mands

200mcg's T4 first thing when I wake up, as you suggested. Only 20 days on the Greys. It's been about 7 months since I ran GH last, but those were seros. I've done them on and off for years with the occasional Hyge, jin or rip thrown in when seros were unavailable.

I really only get the lethargy about 45minutes to an hour after I pin the GH, and it last about 2,5-3 hours.

 

[mands]

200mcg's T4 first thing when I wake up, as you suggested. Only 20 days on the Greys. It's been about 7 months since I ran GH last, but those were seros. I've done them on and off for years with the occasional Hyge, jin or rip thrown in when seros were unavailable.

I really only get the lethargy about 45minutes to an hour after I pin the GH, and it last about 2,5-3 hours.

Run your full dose at night like I suggested and then your t4 in the morning. The GH will help the t4 to t3 conversion. I believe the lethargy comes from reduced t3 levels.

mands

 

[Wunderpus]

Run your full dose at night like I suggested and then your t4 in the morning. The GH will help the t4 to t3 conversion. I believe the lethargy comes from reduced t3 levels.

mands

That's what I've been doing, and it seems to be working a lot better. My hands are feeling a little numb/sore in the morning, but nothing major or unexpected.

Here's the protocol I was following (GH pre workout)- http://www.basskilleronline.com/insulin-protocal-mutant.html


I will just run insulin pre workout for the time being, as the GH ruined my workouts.

 

[CAswole]

Wunder pm'd ya

That's what I've been doing, and it seems to be working a lot better. My hands are feeling a little numb/sore in the morning, but nothing major or unexpected.

Here's the protocol I was following (GH pre workout)- http://www.basskilleronline.com/insulin-protocal-mutant.html


I will just run insulin pre workout for the time being, as the GH ruined my workouts.

 

[Nieves]

@Wunderpus Hey man Can you upload some more photos! I only got to see one earlier in the thread and your looking good bro! past few pages have been all about GH, I don't think I would mess with GH unless I was under care of a licensed physician but that's just me. Just a recap tho You started at about approx. 15% bf around 218-219 and your up 20+ lbs? Sounds like a stout cycle

 

[Wunderpus]

@Wunderpus Hey man Can you upload some more photos! I only got to see one earlier in the thread and your looking good bro! past few pages have been all about GH, I don't think I would mess with GH unless I was under care of a licensed physician but that's just me. Just a recap tho You started at about approx. 15% bf around 218-219 and your up 20+ lbs? Sounds like a stout cycle

Yeah brother I will when I have access to a PC, I'm on my phone right now.

I officially broke my record yesterday and weighed in at 240.6 lbs. I'll take it!

 

[CAswole]

Yeah brother I will when I have access to a PC, I'm on my phone right now.

I officially broke my record yesterday and weighed in at 240.6 lbs. I'll take it!

Great job man! 240 is beast! Wanted to thx u for the tip about the super enzymes, they're great and I'm noticeably less bloated

 

[Nieves]

@Wunderpus Thanks bro and Fuck yeah! 240 #GainTrain Wooop Wooooop

 

[LifeSTRONG]

Yeah brother I will when I have access to a PC, I'm on my phone right now.

I officially broke my record yesterday and weighed in at 240.6 lbs. I'll take it!

Glad to see you breaking a new weight category brother, congratulations! [emoji322]

 

[Wunderpus]

Great job man! 240 is beast! Wanted to thx u for the tip about the super enzymes, they're great and I'm noticeably less bloated

I'm happy to hear! I eat them with my 3 biggest meals of the day. Also, Metamucil 2x a day.

 

[Wunderpus]

Glad to see you breaking a new weight category brother, congratulations! [emoji322]

Fuck yeah man! I honestly can't explain to you the work I have put into getting there. I'm sure we all understand in one way or another what it feels like to realize it was worth it. One small step in my leap to 260!

Thank you for watching!