shackleford
Banned
you've yet to address the vetting, or lack of. As well as your bias by profitting from sales.
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shackleford
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i mean, you basically said only the ones approved.by other sites should be used, but you'll host anybody?
Oh! That’s right, crazybulk.com, I remember vetting them, they provided pics, a good intro and testing.... Wait, no, they are NOT on this “antiquated” forum. Do you know why? Because we’d burn their thread down.
And we ASKED about your “verification” - we used that specific word. You never down-played it until today.
How the fuck are reviews and rankings useful right now? You have NONE.
We would ask for testing from ANY source here. You are BYPASSING that. Dragon pharmahgh hilmabiocare and Colonial are the only vendors we actually recognize. Give me one. Just one reason why we would take a chance with any of your other vendors.
They could sell horny goat weed and by the example I gave you the other day it could be MONTHS before anyone was any wiser. You’re not holding anyone’s funds for 6 months.
You’re promoting HARM by bypassing our way of doing stuff.
Require testing. Simple as that Brewly and make your vendors pony up for customers to blind test products. That should be pretty basic by now.
1. We have product reviews. Can't give a product review until you test it. We'll add vendor reviews for TA, service, etc comments soon
2. I think you're confused over ranking. There are no literal ranks. Ranking = which products show up first and which are last. Call it "sorting" if you prefer.
3. No, you're not taking what I say at face value and assuming things again. Yes, plenty have been denied. CNraw was initially denied, in fact. I'm letting him have a trial run with his private customers because it's not hurting anyone.
4. You have to actually order a product to leave a review. And it's not hard to detect someone trying to game the system
I said neither of these things. Please stop extrapolating my intent if you wish to have a true productive conversation.
I don't believe it's our place to determine who is g2g. Do you really want us to have that power? Think about what you're insinuating. We have a basic filter to verify that people are legitimate vendors with a real intent on selling real products. The rest is your decision.
We are literally pushing vetted people as the first thing you see...
You have avoided many questions.
I fail to see your value proposition.
- Nobody cares about PGP, in 25 years I haven’t seen a buyer get busted. Sources get busted.
- Reviews on sources are all over public forums and free why would a source pay you 5% commission? It’s not like your website is keyword optimized and loaded with targeted traffic.
I fail to see your value proposition.
- Nobody cares about PGP, in 25 years I haven’t seen a buyer get busted. Sources get busted.
- Reviews on sources are all over public forums and free why would a source pay you 5% commission? It’s not like your website is keyword optimized and loaded with targeted traffic.
shackleford
Banned
Can vendors buy "rank"?
Say i.kick a few bucks your way and my products appears higher on the list.
I think you have too much control over the vetting, ranking, etc. You profit directly. Maybe you are and honest man, but sometimes its too easy to be bought.
Right, so now imagine an alternative: An easy to use marketplace that has *actual* gear and that had it's beginnings right here on Meso as the forefront of AAS online. Or instead we can continue with horny goat weed steroid pills.
cochino
Member
Ah the fucking Amazon comparison again. Look , I buy a lot of shit off of Amazon, leagal shit, name brand merchandise.
You're selling illegal drugs from various UGL'S. We fucking want our drug dealers to stand before us here and be properly vetted. If I have to send coin to 3 different sources its no big deal.
I honestly don't see a need for a middle man and more important ugl's that can ride your coattail in here without being properly vetted.
This is a harm reduction board, and your platform doesn't serve for that.
Ok so guys we need to pick one here. First it's Brewly needs to have full control over who's on the platform: who's at the top, etc. And then it's: you can't have that much power! We don't trust you! Someone will pay you off!
It's impossible for me to satisfy both angles at the same time. I need you to pick one so we can stay on track and have a real discussion. This doesn't have to be a flame war.
Let me know and I will respond accordingly. There's too many replies coming in right now so I will wait on your decision before I do my best to answer your questions and concerns.
I agree. Where am I telling you that you must buy from every single vendor hosted on Brewly?
Only want to buy from Meso sources on Brewly? No problem
Only want to buy from SST sources on Brewly? No problem
The point is to have as many options as possible and let the customers have a say who's the best! Just like on meso, a democratic process. Except we at least also have a basic filter that you must satisfy to enter.
So to clarify, you have NONE of this right now. And as I pointed out before, I could signup and give vendors bullshit reviews (positive or negative). I might go leave some reviews later just so you have them. Or maybe not. I don’t know.
Fuck you insulting my intelligence and calling me confused. You have “Top Vendors” but they aren’t ranked? You’re retarded.
Buck Anabolics already tried to source here. It didn’t go so well. I’m pretty sure CNraws did too. Our vetting cut Buck out but he’s “ok” for you, which in turn wants to market here. This isn’t sitting well. It’s a back door 2nd chance for ol Buck.
I fuck with Yelp all the time, I’m sure I could game your system. You have an area for reviews in your little forum too.
shackleford
Banned
Are you admitting your vetting process is less than adequate? Am I beating a dead horse or am I still waiting for an actual answer?
It doesn’t make a difference. The questions he picks to answer are so long-worded and complicated and later in a few weeks he’ll say “we didn’t say that”. It’s beyond frustrating. It’s either several different people answering on the Brewly handle or the guy is great at dipping and dodging.
I am not attempting to insult your intelligence. I believe there has been a miscommunication about "rank".
When I say rank, I'm talking about product/vendor visibility. How highly a product is ranked means is it occupying the #1 spot or the #10 spot. I'm not talking about literal badges like "MESO APPROVED" or "G2G" or "GOLD SELLER" or something.
Where did I say we have none of this?
You can make reviews! You can even attach blood work pictures to reviews and filter reviews that have it. You can't place a review on a product that you have not purchased, though. This already exists, since day one.
shackleford
Banned
I think if you want to be a credible site owner, you need to be selective about who you allow to be affiliated with your site.
I think your ability to control rankings and such is tainted by your financial involvement.
I think the solution to the problem is a member operated forum where those vetting the source have no financial incentives and the reviews are available for all to read. No ranking, google seo type bs. That is meso.
He back pedaled that back and clarified tonight “being on Brewly is in no way a G2G”
When we asked him about this out of the gate almost a month ago he said “they have a verification process to be a vendor”. I remember that because MESO wanted to do the vetting. Send us your vendors. Let’s go.
What I'm saying is the decision is yours on who you buy from. We're defaulting right now to giving more visibility to vendors that have been in the game a long time.
Meso does not have a vetting process. Anyone can post on Meso. What Meso has is a very fervent community. That's not a knock or an insult. It's cool and I think the way you guys do things is effective at times. But it's not vetting in the sense that vendors get a rank, their visibility gets affected, or they get banned if they don't make the cut.
Literally none of that happens. I am genuinely confused at the push back over this specific topic when we're on an unmoderated, open-ended forum where anything goes.
This is exactly how Brewly works and is what I've been trying to communicate. The reviews you leave, which are publicly viewable IS what determines your rank (aka placement aka visbility).
Dude. These things are not mutually exclusive. I said from early on in this thread (look it up, I'm begging you) that being on Brewly is not a "BADGE OF HONOR" or "STAMP OF APPROVAL". We have a barrier to entry, yes, but that doesn't mean "this is the greatest vendor of all time empty your wallets!". Please take what I say at face value. The only person that can determined who is good to go, is the customer. Everyone has a different standard. This is literally how meso works why are you seething.
That is determined by customers. As it should be.
I really don't know if you're doing this on purpose at this point... here it is again:
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