Climate Change

Sunspots have been observed and are predictable on a very specific cycle (actually 2 cycles). This ain't rocket science. (Well, technically it is solar or stellar astrophysics..)

I don't think we need to go out of our way to be wasteful but I find it incredibly disingenuous , at minimum, but really more like an ass raping of the American public, when the govt and other entities work so effing hard to make it appear as "our fault" and then institute a bunch of eco-overhead that really just creates a beaurocracy to give retired or no-longer-in-office politicians a place to go and collect a nice big fat salary. (For ex, California Air Resources Board.. )

Perfect example - seriously... gas has approached $5 / gallon in the very recent past (mostly cheaper at the moment due to summer seasonal downswing) and we are no less dependent on foreign oil, but Obama is very proud to announce the goal of doubling use of alternative energy resources in the coming years ... from 1% to 2%... wtf about the other 98% that drives our economy and makes the US the slapping bitch of the rest of the oil-producing world?

I'm so glad we have a clear view of what is important. If it makes you feel better, go hug a fucking tree. But in the meantime, we're throwing away our ability to be economically functional in the very near future.
 
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Sunspots have been observed and are predictable on a very specific cycle (actually 2 cycles). This ain't rocket science. (Well, technically it is solar or stellar astrophysics..)

I don't think we need to go out of our way to be wasteful but I find it incredibly disingenuous , at minimum, but really more like an ass raping of the American public, when the govt and other entities work so effing hard to make it appear as "our fault" and then institute a bunch of eco-overhead that really just creates a beaurocracy to give retired or no-longer-in-office politicians a place to go and collect a nice big fat salary. (For ex, California Air Resources Board.. )

Perfect example - seriously... gas has approached $5 / gallon in the very recent past (mostly cheaper at the moment due to summer seasonal downswing) and we are no less dependent on foreign oil, but Obama is very proud to announce the goal of doubling use of alternative energy resources in the coming years ... from 1% to 2%... wtf about the other 98% that drives our economy and makes the US the slapping bitch of the rest of the oil-producing world?

I'm so glad we have a clear view of what is important. If it makes you feel better, go hug a fucking tree. But in the meantime, we're throwing away our ability to be economically functional in the very near future.

Sassy69, hammer, meet nail. Pleasure to meet someone of intelligence whose nose is not stuck up the arse another sheep in front of them. :tiphat
 
Whether or not climate change is happening/going to happen, I fail to see how reducing emissions from industry, agriculture, and travel is going to have any harmful implications.

It's called the economy. And I'll let you in on a little secrete - it's pretty important. And here is another little secret - if China does not do it and we do, we lose. Clear as bell.
 
Ouch! This pretty much sums up what climate change is really about and it does it so well I won't add to it: The Failure of Al Gore Part Three: Singing the Climate Blues | Via Meadia

Some readers are wondering why I am spending so much time analyzing the political problems of a former vice president. It is not out of any personal animus toward Mr. Gore. Though I’m not expecting any invitations to any of Mr. Gore’s lovely homes, the doors to the stately Mead manor in glamorous Queens are always open should the ex-Veep want to drop in for a hot cup of joe.

My interest in the decay of the former vice president’s public position is partly because — like Jimmy Carter — he has had such an active post-Washington career. Not even Ronald Reagan won an Oscar, and Reagan (though he deserved it) never got a Nobel. Gore’s signature issue, the climate, is a major one, and Al Gore has been at the center of the most important movement of international civil society since the Nuclear Freeze movement of the 1980s.

The serial rise and fall of these vacuous civil society movements and the peculiar grip they exercise over the minds of some otherwise intelligent people is an important subject: why do so many people who want to help solve global problems waste so much time and money and, sometimes, do so much harm? Is there some way to harness that energy and idealism to causes and strategies that might do more good? What does the repeated rise and fall of clueless but well educated and well placed enthusiasts teach us about the state of our civilization and the human condition? Are there ways we could nip these Malthusian panics and idealistic feeding frenzies in the bud? Is there some way we could teach future generations to be a little smarter about politics and power so that the 21st century, which is going to have plenty of serious problems, might spend less time chasing mares’ nests?

More than that, the former vice president’s troubles don’t just reflect his personal ideas and limits. Gore’s errors are exemplary: by studying where he goes wrong we can see how a substantial section of our ruling elite has lost its way. Al Gore is steeped in the Blue Social Model that I’ve been posting about; his social imagination has been so molded by modern American progressivism and the liberalism of the late 20th century that he literally cannot conceive of solutions in any terms the conventional center-left wisdom doesn’t make room for.

The trouble and even the tragedy of Al Gore is that he comes at the tail end of this tradition; he is a living example of what you get when a worldview outlives its time. He presses the old buttons and turns the old cranks, but the machine isn’t running any more. The priests dance around the altar, the priestess chews the sacred herbs, but the god no longer speaks. Like President Obama watching a universal healthcare program that he thought would secure his place in history turn into an electoral albatross and a policy meltdown, Al Gore thought that in the climate issue he had picked a winning horse. Judging from his Rolling Stone essay he has no idea why the climate movement failed, and no clue at all about how he could re-think the issue.

“Climate of Denial,” Vice President Gore’s “Rolling Stone” essay is not, I am sorry to say, very useful as a guide to resuscitating the environmental movement. It is largely reduced to the classic loser sandlot complaints: the other side didn’t play fair, they had bigger kids and the refs were biased. Al Gore seems to want the climate movement to behave like the French Bourbons: to forget nothing in the way of grievances — and to learn nothing about how to do better next time.

But if “Climate of Denial” doesn’t teach us how environmentalists can have more success, it does help us understand what’s wrong with Mr. Gore. The essay begins with one of his earliest childhood memories when young Master Gore (as southern boys from the better white families were then still addressed) was taken to a professional wrestling match at the Fork River Elementary School gym in Elmswood, Tennessee.

The boy was perplexed: the wrestlers seemed to be really fighting, but the whole thing somehow seemed scripted. Worse, the referees weren’t doing their jobs. When the bad guys hit the good guys with a metal chair, the referees were somehow not paying attention, but when, as Gore puts it, “the good guy — after absorbing more abuse and unfairness than any person could tolerate — committed the slightest infraction, the referee was all over him.”

For Gore, this is an eerily accurate representation of the current state of the climate debate and indeed of our society as a whole: the bad guys (Big Oil, coal companies, Republicans) commit all kinds of lies and infractions, and the crooked referee as played by the press only has eyes for the rare and venial slips of the good guys — the IPCC, Rajendra Pachauri and of course the former vice president.

It is likely that Mr. Gore has no idea just how much this passage reveals about the limits of his social vision and political understanding. For one thing, then and now Gore misses the point of professional wrestling as popular entertainment. Among other things, professional wrestling works as a kind of folk satire — and well meaning progressives and professionals like Mr. Gore are among its targets. The clownish referee represents exactly the well intentioned bumblers who seek to arbitrate and rationalize the endless competition between the good and the bad guys. It is the way much of the working class looks at ivory tower intellectuals, nanny state do-gooders and what in Mark Twain’s day people could still call “the old women of both sexes” who fussed self-importantly around like New York Times editorial writers, levying moral judgments and thinking they were accomplishing something.

In other words, the referee in a professional wrestling match strikes a chord in popular culture in part because he is a representation of the class which sets itself up in our society as the arbiter and judge: the professional elite, the expert and the chattering classes. The referee at a wrestling match is a populist portrait of the FCC, the NLRB, NPR, the New York Times editorial board and everyone else who does exactly what Al Gore would like to spend his whole life doing: judging mankind impartially and ruling them well. The referee is part of the entertainment who is funny in part because he thinks he is above the fray.

Al Gore thinks of himself as a friend of the common man and a tribune of the people against the selfish and wicked elites (the bad wrestlers hitting the poor good guys with those horrid metal chairs); he wants to be an honest and competent referee in the wrestling match, bringing decorum and order and fairness to an anarchic sport.

Al Gore is rooted in two distinct but related American traditions: genteel Southern liberalism and the Northeastern establishment. His father, Al Gore Senior, was a relatively liberal Tennessee politician who served in both the House of Representatives and the Senate. (The senior Gore also worked for oil and coal companies and farmed tobacco; the younger Gore seems to feel he has much to live down.) The elder Gore was relatively liberal on civil rights — voting against the Civil Rights Act of 1964 but supporting the 1965 Voting Rights Act and Nixon’s vice president Spiro Agnew denounced him as the Tennessee representative of the New England establishment.

The reality was more complex. There is a long tradition of relatively liberal Southern gentlemen who quietly but sometimes forcefully dissented from certain aspects of the region’s racial and political legacies. Think Atticus Finch in Harper Lee’s To Kill A Mockingbird defending the illiterate, disabled Negro against the mob of white trash, or Ashley Wilkes in Gone With The Wind. In real life, these men were often educated up North, usually at places like Princeton and Harvard and Yale, where their gentry Southern elitism was reinforced by the intellectual and socialism elitism of the Ivy League.

Woodrow Wilson, the Virginia-born Princeton professor who ended up in the White House proposing global peace agreements as unrealistic as Gore’s climate treaty is the archetypal example of the blend of Southern and Northern elite WASP culture and politics. Wilson believed in democracy but not in the people; well educated, well intentioned and well behaved moral leaders needed to guide the masses lest in their ignorance and weakness they fall under the sway of unscrupulous demagogues. North and South the progressives believe that the masses need to be governed: they will drink too much without Prohibition, they will drive too much unless gasoline is heavily taxed, they will eat the wrong things, the poor weaklings, if we allow fried food in the school cafeteria.

Al Gore junior was as perfectly primed for the life of a gentry progressive as it is possible to be. The son of a senator, he was educated at St. Albans and Harvard. When, after working as a journalist investigating corruption (an honest referee in a dirty game), he learned that his father’s old House seat had become vacant, Al Gore ran and was elected. Atticus Finch, reporting for duty.

Unfortunately, Gore’s life has coincided with declining public interest in the kind of elite liberal leadership he was trained to provide. The shift of the white South away from the Democratic Party is sometimes portrayed as simple white flight from a Democratic Party that was embracing Black voters. This is a part of what happened; what also happened was that as Southern whites were gradually becoming better educated and more urban, they were no longer interested in the two types of leadership the Democrats traditionally offered: Atticus Finch and George Wallace. Neither the gentry progressive nor the race-baiting demagogue spoke to the white South very clearly anymore and the rise of the Republican Party in the South brought new kinds of discourse and new kinds of politics to a South that had less and less room for the Gores.

Beyond the South, the idea of better governance through specially trained and impartial experts has been losing favor from one end of the United States to the other. In 1911, only a handful of Americans had a college education. Southern sharecroppers and northern mill workers had little education and little leisure time for politics. Today growing numbers of Americans resent and reject the tutelage of well meaning elites — and they view with suspicion the claims of ‘experts’ to be dispassionate and disinterested custodians of the public good. They don’t see civil servants as unselfish and apolitical experts who can be trusted to regulate and rule; they see them as a lobby like any other, a special interest more interested in preserving fat pensions and easy working conditions — and at foisting their own ideological hobby horses and preferences on the public at large.

Al Gore is not wrong to see that the media is changing into something that feels more like professional wrestling than like the hallowed network news broadcast in the Cronkite era. The public at large increasingly sees journalists as entertainers rather than arbiters. “The Daily Show” and “The Colbert Report” play this for all it is worth and increasingly the myth of the objective journalist is yielding to the idea of the engaged party frankly promoting an agenda. Mr. Gore may deplore this transition and yearn for the days when a handful of senior newsmen told the country what the news really was; millions of Americans don’t want to go back. They don’t think Dan Rather can be trusted and they feel that a news show which has a clear and even entertaining bias is more interesting and perhaps even more honest than one which cloaks itself in pretentious but questionable claims to authority and objective truth.

The tradition of politics and public service that Gore knows and believes in — a powerful government run by well educated technocrats and gentlemen protecting the masses from dangers they do not understand and which they cannot overcome on their own — periodically comes under attack from Jacksonian populists.

The most common thing that people who do not like Al Gore’s politics say about him is that they find his speaking method “condescending”. He often comes across like a middle school teacher trying to make a complicated point clear to his class. He likes his students; he wishes them well — but he is the adult in the room, the honest referee at the wrestling match, and the kids need to do what they’re told.

Gore’s social ethic was not a bad one in his youth. In a region divided into a handful of relatively prosperous and well educated whites, a larger number of poor and unschooled white farmers and laborers often dependent on rich whites, and a large mass of (mostly) even poorer, more dependent and less well educated Blacks, the quasi-feudal gentry liberalism of the young Al Gore made some sense.

But the South changed and the country changed, and it doesn’t make sense any more. Al Gore’s climate strategy — to invoke the authority of Science and Experts in the service of a grand global fix that would transfer huge amounts of power from elected officials and the people at large to unelected international bureaucracies — is classic Blue thinking. These days, that kind of thinking and that kind of strategy won’t work

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Whether or not climate change is happening/going to happen, I fail to see how reducing emissions from industry, agriculture, and travel is going to have any harmful implications.

If you take a look at the size of the eco-lobby, and the things that people have invested in heavily - there's a lot of money and power at stake here. And very little of it has to do w/ people who actually care about the Earth. How are you supposed to take things like "carbon footprint" (What is a carbon footprint - definition | Time for change) seriously when people like Al Gore claim to be the "leaders" of it, while themselves producing an obscene carbon footprint (snopes.com: Al Gore's Energy Use,. Al Gore's Carbon Footprint Is Big. - BusinessWeek) . Talk about "inconvenient truth".

Environmental lawsuits are a cash cow too.

goldfinds.com - Environmental Lawsuits Rake in Billions for Lawyers
 
Whether or not climate change is happening/going to happen, I fail to see how reducing emissions from industry, agriculture, and travel is going to have any harmful implications.

If you take a look at the size of the eco-lobby, and the things that people have invested in heavily - there's a lot of money and power at stake here. And very little of it has to do w/ people who actually care about the Earth. How are you supposed to take things like "carbon footprint" (What is a carbon footprint - definition | Time for change) seriously when people like Al Gore claim to be the "leaders" of it, while themselves producing an obscene carbon footprint (http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/gorehome.aspl) . Talk about "inconvenient truth".

Environmental lawsuits are a cash cow too.

goldfinds.com - Environmental Lawsuits Rake in Billions for Lawyers

Again, I'm not saying its ok to be wasteful, but to start legislating heavy changes for "environmental friendly" requirements, there is usually incredible cost to those who have to make the change, and historically, many of these "required changes" are not backed by valid research, and are still skewed by the stench of the artificial beaurocracy that has grown up around this whole "movement". (Full of examples: KILLCARB.ORG - DR. Bill Essay)
 
It's called the economy. And I'll let you in on a little secrete - it's pretty important. And here is another little secret - if China does not do it and we do, we lose. Clear as bell.

Or we create a new sector of jobs in the science of cleaning up our technology and end up in a good place in 40 years. China ends up a bigger shit hole than it already is in 40 years. You aren't going to reach long term economic prosperity when your country has air quality levels that give every citizen a 50% chance of getting asthma in their lifetime.
 
If you take a look at the size of the eco-lobby, and the things that people have invested in heavily - there's a lot of money and power at stake here. And very little of it has to do w/ people who actually care about the Earth. How are you supposed to take things like "carbon footprint" (What is a carbon footprint - definition | Time for change) seriously when people like Al Gore claim to be the "leaders" of it, while themselves producing an obscene carbon footprint (http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/gorehome.aspl) . Talk about "inconvenient truth".

Environmental lawsuits are a cash cow too.

goldfinds.com - Environmental Lawsuits Rake in Billions for Lawyers

Again, I'm not saying its ok to be wasteful, but to start legislating heavy changes for "environmental friendly" requirements, there is usually incredible cost to those who have to make the change, and historically, many of these "required changes" are not backed by valid research, and are still skewed by the stench of the artificial beaurocracy that has grown up around this whole "movement". (Full of examples: KILLCARB.ORG - DR. Bill Essay)

I don't live in Cali, so I don't experience any of this stuff first hand. I bet you do, which is why you are (rightfully) po'd about it. I do agree that SOME regulation is misguided and really not worth it (emissions testing for vehicles...when something like 1% or less of the vehicles actually fail) but we've gotta do something.

The amount of crap in my air and groundwater is unbelieveable from things like pesticides, herbicides, fungicides (lots of farms around me) and industrial byproducts (LOTS of industry too). I see the fact that there are populations in the next county over that have an extremely elevated potential of getting certain types of cancers due to the industry that is around them as another issue here. Will those emissions cause global warming? I don't know. Are they UNDENIABLY harmful? YES! Of course they are. There are fucking fish in the IL river with worn down gills and 3 eyes and shit (no joke...just like the simpsons) from this industrial waste. So why the fuck should we let pump more shit into our environment. No thanks. Clean it up. If China wants that type of industry - they can have it.
 
Or we create a new sector of jobs in the science of cleaning up our technology and end up in a good place in 40 years. China ends up a bigger shit hole than it already is in 40 years. You aren't going to reach long term economic prosperity when your country has air quality levels that give every citizen a 50% chance of getting asthma in their lifetime.

Its fine if that sector of jobs to do this clean up is economically viable and doesn't require heavy subsidization from the govt. As noted - we're talking about 'alternative energy sources" that currently make up 1% of our total energy usage.

Again, not saying it wouldn't be great to do things that aren't wasteful - but on one hand, if it is legislated and then no reasonable path is given from here to there to accommodate the cost of that change to 'business" as we know it right now, then it will be very damanging to the economy. But the other thing is, as I noted before, the drivers for this NEVER seem to be ":for betterment of the country" and ALWAYS and SPECIFICALLY for someone to make money.Even for those things that amazing advancements in technology that could revolutionize things, the Oil lobby or the Automotive Lobby will manage to kill it because it is in their best interest to NOT evolve.
 
Yet another "climate scientist" caught doctoring data. Those poor polar bears? Not so fast: http://news.yahoo.com/apnewsbreak-arctic-scientist-under-investigation-082217993.html
 
And it just keeps getting better: http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow-gaping-hold-global-warming-alarmism-192334971.html

NASA satellite data from the years 2000 through 2011 show the Earth's atmosphere is allowing far more heat to be released into space than alarmist computer models have predicted, reports a new study in the peer-reviewed science journal Remote Sensing. The study indicates far less future global warming will occur than United Nations computer models have predicted, and supports prior studies indicating increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide trap far less heat than alarmists have claimed.

Study co-author Dr. Roy Spencer, a principal research scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville and U.S. Science Team Leader for the Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer flying on NASA's Aqua satellite, reports that real-world data from NASA's Terra satellite contradict multiple assumptions fed into alarmist computer models.

"The satellite observations suggest there is much more energy lost to space during and after warming than the climate models show," Spencer said in a July 26 University of Alabama press release. "There is a huge discrepancy between the data and the forecasts that is especially big over the oceans."

In addition to finding that far less heat is being trapped than alarmist computer models have predicted, the NASA satellite data show the atmosphere begins shedding heat into space long before United Nations computer models predicted.

The new findings are extremely important and should dramatically alter the global warming debate.

Scientists on all sides of the global warming debate are in general agreement about how much heat is being directly trapped by human emissions of carbon dioxide (the answer is "not much"). However, the single most important issue in the global warming debate is whether carbon dioxide emissions will indirectly trap far more heat by causing large increases in atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds. Alarmist computer models assume human carbon dioxide emissions indirectly cause substantial increases in atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds (each of which are very effective at trapping heat), but real-world data have long shown that carbon dioxide emissions are not causing as much atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds as the alarmist computer models have predicted.

The new NASA Terra satellite data are consistent with long-term NOAA and NASA data indicating atmospheric humidity and cirrus clouds are not increasing in the manner predicted by alarmist computer models. The Terra satellite data also support data collected by NASA's ERBS satellite showing far more longwave radiation (and thus, heat) escaped into space between 1985 and 1999 than alarmist computer models had predicted. Together, the NASA ERBS and Terra satellite data show that for 25 years and counting, carbon dioxide emissions have directly and indirectly trapped far less heat than alarmist computer models have predicted.

In short, the central premise of alarmist global warming theory is that carbon dioxide emissions should be directly and indirectly trapping a certain amount of heat in the earth's atmosphere and preventing it from escaping into space. Real-world measurements, however, show far less heat is being trapped in the earth's atmosphere than the alarmist computer models predict, and far more heat is escaping into space than the alarmist computer models predict.

When objective NASA satellite data, reported in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, show a "huge discrepancy" between alarmist climate models and real-world facts, climate scientists, the media and our elected officials would be wise to take notice. Whether or not they do so will tell us a great deal about how honest the purveyors of global warming alarmism truly are.

With the EPA about to increase electric bills across many states, one must ask themselves what is the real agenda of the global warming "experts". Fake science is fake science. Cold fusion anyone?
 
And it just keeps getting better: http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow-gaping-hold-global-warming-alarmism-192334971.html



With the EPA about to increase electric bills across many states, one must ask themselves what is the real agenda of the global warming "experts". Fake science is fake science. Cold fusion anyone?

What are you talking about the EPA and electric bills? Are you referring to commerce commissions?
 
What are you talking about the EPA and electric bills? Are you referring to commerce commissions?

The EPA is unilaterally - as an agency and not as a branch of the federal government - about to enact its rules which claim C02 and other by-products of energy production are greenhouse gasses which cause global warming (still under debate and the NASA data is throwing water on that fake fire). The result is strict new regulations for power companies. San Antonio is the first in TX to feel this. They will need to retool plants with expensive new equipment. Think they are going to pay for all of this and keep costs the same?

Coal Gen and EPA Power Struggle: Consumers to Foot The Electric Bills? | ZeroHedge

Here is just one of many, many examples (go to the story for the charts) and one example of life under Obama and the Socialists who are hell bent on destroying the middle class and creating a in its place a group of people totally dependent on the government for their survival. This will, as in Europe, fail in the end as it is unsustainable. But nobody seems to give a sh*t, so I say you get the government you deserve and don't complain later when your wallet is emptied out. And now you know why there has been no budget from the Dems in over 800 days. If the American people saw it, the result would be the end of the Democrats and they know it. So hide the real problem - spending - and hope the dolts in the country don't call you on it. So far, I guess everyone is busy watching Dancing with the Stars and listening to the asinine ruminations of liberals on the debt ceiling. Raise taxes on corporate America? What do think the result will be. Raise the capital gains tax from 15% to 28% - I will bet you a paycheck in both cases revenue goes down, not up. And if you are stupid enough to raise taxes on small business owners (who make up bulk of those making over $200,000/yr, they are either going out of business or laying off - again, tax revenue will go DOWN. It is economics 101. But play to your ideology. You'll pay the price later and wish the hell you had paid more attention to history and current events in Europe instead of bowing at the alter of Statism and centralized economically destructive policies. But hey, what do I, Europe, and the old Soviet Union know? When even Putin comes out and says Obama is screwing up, we already tried it and look where it got us, then go ahead and throw yourself under that bus and ignore facts. Here is the story:

Utility giant American Electric Power (AEP) sent shock wave last week by suggesting consumers could see their electricity bills jump an estimated 40-60% in the next few years. AEP is one of the country's largest investor-owned utilities, serving parts of 11 states with more than 5 million customers.

As part of the company’s plan to comply with EPA's new regulations, AEP said it would cost $6-8 billion in capital investments over the next decade to retire and retrofit its coal fired power plants to meet regulations that start taking effect in 2014. And that’s when the utility rate increases are expected to begin to appear.

As noted in my other article, a study by the Brattle Group concludes that new EPA new emission regulations could push up to 50,000 MW to 67,000 MW, or 20% installed coal plant capacity into early retirement, and additional $100-180 billion investment may be needed to upgrade existing coal plants to comply with the EPA's potential mandates.

Chicago Tribune also reported that generators have announced they plan to retire another 21,000 megawatts in the near future, and some industry consultant studies estimate 60,000 megawatts of power will be taken offline by 2017.

So it seems the estimated impact of EPA’s new Air Toxics Standards for Utilities would be an early retirement of around 20% of coal plant capacity in the next five years or so. Those soon-to-be-retired coal plants are most likely older and smaller coal plants not far from being totally decommissioned in the first place.

Steven F. Hayward, a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, also commented that

“…the average age of the [U.S.] coal fleet is 42 years….it is more likely to be the smaller plants that will be shut down for the simple reason that the fixed capital costs of additional pollution abatement will be too high, while the costs will not be excessively high for the larger plants.”

As for the numbers from AEP, Hayward writes,

“…although new gas-fired power has become very cost competitive on average, the replacement cost of small coal units with small gas units (or renewables such as wind and solar that require gas-backup) is likely to be higher than average in many cases. Hence, the kind of numbers we’re seeing out of Illinois.”

Admittedly, whenever there’s a new legislation affecting the industry landscape, negative impact on the cost structure is inevitable and could eventually be passed through to consumers. However, the ability to pass on the incremental cost as well as the dollar amount are still subject to market supply and demand fundamentals.

Since power plants in the U.S. are used at only about half their potential full output, the estimated coal capacity retirement, which are expected to be compensated by an increase in gas power generation, most likely will not cause significant supply demand imbalance.

Furthermore, electricity costs historically has been highly correlated to natural gas (See Graph Below). Even in the state of Texas which ranked number one based on total amount of coal-generated electricity in 2005, the correlation was as high as 90% from Feb. 2007 to Feb. 2008. The correlation could increase even further now that natural gas is taking the power gen market share from coal with the help of new environmental regulations and cheap Henry Hub price.


Chart Source: Hess Corp. presentation, 2011


Currently, the outlook for natural gas price does not signal a surge in electricity cost any time soon as the production boom from shale gas has pressured Henry Hub price to around $4 per mmbtu in the last two years or so. The situation is not expected to change significantly in the medium term.

And here is the electricity supply and demand projection by the Energy Dept. in its Annual Energy Outlook 2011 released in April 2011:

“In the Reference case, electricity demand growth rebounds but remains relatively slow, as growing demand for electricity services is offset by efficiency gains from new appliance standards and investments in energy-efficient equipment.”

Chart Source: EIA

“More recently, the economic recession in 2008 and 2009 caused a significant drop in electricity demand. As a result, the lower demand projected for the near term in the AEO2011 Reference case again results in excess generating capacity.”


Chart Source: EIA



Moreover, while there could be added costs passed through to electricity consumers; the existing slack in the power capacity, a less than robust demand outlook, and expected new capacity addition, have made it hard to see how the residential electricity costs could go up as much as “40-60% in the next few years” as AEP suggested.

According to Source Watch, AEP is the top producers of coal-fired electricity in the U.S. in 2005. So it is easy to understand why American Electric Power is busy clashing with the EPA, after its peer Exelon Corp., (EXC) took the high road.

Exelon is expected to benefit from this new air legislative change due to its large fleet of nuclear power plants that have low emissions and are cheap to run. Below is Exelon’s statement in March 2011 regarding proposed EPA rules as reported by MarketWatch:

"Based on our detailed review of the Air Toxics Rule and our preliminary analysis of the Section 316(b) rule, rumors of a 'train wreck' caused by new EPA regulations are simply false…. That is not to say that there is not room for additional dialogue, but these discussions need to be guided by sound science, not rhetoric….. EPA has done a good job listening to the industry and moving the ball forward."

It looks like the battle line is drawn in the power gen sector, and coal got thrown under the bus. As to what the final damage to consumers' wallet will be, I guess only time will tell.
 
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Wow, what an informed decision with cutting edge rebuttals. When objectivity is met with an expletive, facts with a single word with no reference to other facts, then clearly the person reporting what must be such intellectually straining thoughts as to cause a giant migraine is on the losing side of the argument and looking very, very trite and uninformed, if not a bit naive and childish in the process.

It's like being the a battle of the wits with an unarmed opponent.

It's kind of like Obama's debt reduction plan. Oh wait, it doesn't exist and is nothing but ephemeral ruminations from a teleprompter. I hope you did not need a teleprompter to come up with the above single word statement.

Did someone write that for you?
 
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