BigNattyDaddy
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Awesome quote in your profile!
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
Daily Log to 2019 Show Season
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Keepittight
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Dude at your level there is NO POINT in ever coming off.
It’s a new thing for me. Up until last year I didn’t cruise. Full PCT and return to my own body’s production.
Also on the sust, I believe there’s some studies showing the difference in hormonal response between ester lengths. I’ll have to dig it up. Makes sust more attractive still.
FourOneDeuxFitt
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Thanks brother
Interesting. I lost any liking for sust years ago. I am a firm believer wjen it comes to quality gains, test is test. And less hormone fluctuation the better. In theory, if ai remember Doc Jim correctly, sust is best pinned every other day or every two days opposed to twice or even once a week.
100% correct. But sust was, if I’m not mistaken, formulated specifically for stable blood levels. You end up with frequent mini peaks vs more spread out larger peaks. Ideally, injections every day produce the least amount of fluctuation no matter the ester. Shit, an IM drip would be even better lol.
Maybe I’ll hate sust. Who knows. But if I do, atleast switching to a long ester only won’t provide much trouble.
BigNattyDaddy
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Will definitely be stealing it
FourOneDeuxFitt
Member
All good man I stole it myselfWill definitely be stealing it
Found the article. It isn’t what I’d call hard science but it makes references to legitimate studies with more or less logical jumps to the conclusions provided.
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I think the fact of the matter is that elite amateur and pro level cycles run a VERY large range of dosing.
People forget that part of genetics is how you respond to drugs. Just as important as waist size, muscle bellies, skin quality, etc.
The guys that use a ton at that level probably need it or else they’d have found someone by now to show them otherwise.
I know for a FACT there are certain physique guys using more than some top Mr Olympia competitors.
But I agree with your sentiment here..there’s no guideline. More doesn’t equal bigger and better. Look at some of these goon “mass monster” amateurs looking like water buffalo.
My concept is minimum effective dose.y cycle may change drastically if those doses aren’t seen as effective as I progress.
JackSmooth
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That brings the question of do they actually need more gear or are they using more to make up for lack of other things such as diet and training.
FourOneDeuxFitt
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I think both sides of what you said are correct. To an extent to make up for maybe genetic superiority of other compared to themselves and secondly lack of discipline when it comes to the bread and butter of nutrition, recovery, and training.
I would say, for the most part, do not doubt the dedication of professionals. Any organization. If they’re slacking it’s individual percentage points, not 20-30% deficient in training and diet. We’re splitting hairs when you’re talking pro ranks.
When you’re talking physique to open, consider that physique guys have to maintain itty bitty waists and the overall look isn’t conducive to massive eating. Granted, genetics there too, but I don’t think physique leaves room for 6-7k cals a day. Lesser degree in classic. But it’s a scale.
When you’re talking physique to open, consider that physique guys have to maintain itty bitty waists and the overall look isn’t conducive to massive eating. Granted, genetics there too, but I don’t think physique leaves room for 6-7k cals a day. Lesser degree in classic. But it’s a scale.
Chest
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Seated Cable Flyes w/ foam roller (pictured) - 5 sets ascending weight to one hard set of 10-12 reps (this comes from Joe Bennett AKA The Hypertrophy Coach)
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Flat Dumbbell Press - 3x10 @ 80/100/110
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Incline Barbell Press - 3x12/10/4 @ 135/225/275 dropped to 135 repped out (since my last set was way fewer reps than expected I did the drop)
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Decline Hammer Strength Press w/ Titan Grips (pictured) - 4x12/10/10/6 @ 1/2/3/3.5 plates
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Single Arm Cable Flyes - 3x15
Calves
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Leg Press Calf Presses - Single leg sets of 15 @ sled/1 per side/2 per side/3 per side
Leg Press Calf Press - 15x 3/4/5 per side
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Seated Cable Flyes w/ foam roller (pictured) - 5 sets ascending weight to one hard set of 10-12 reps (this comes from Joe Bennett AKA The Hypertrophy Coach)
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Flat Dumbbell Press - 3x10 @ 80/100/110
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Incline Barbell Press - 3x12/10/4 @ 135/225/275 dropped to 135 repped out (since my last set was way fewer reps than expected I did the drop)
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Decline Hammer Strength Press w/ Titan Grips (pictured) - 4x12/10/10/6 @ 1/2/3/3.5 plates
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Single Arm Cable Flyes - 3x15
Calves
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Leg Press Calf Presses - Single leg sets of 15 @ sled/1 per side/2 per side/3 per side
Leg Press Calf Press - 15x 3/4/5 per side
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ForeverSmall
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I'll have to try the incline foam roller thing. I already do that just without the foam. For that exercise I like holding at the top for 10 followed by 10 reps then 5 secs at the top and 5 more reps. Seems to really get that pump started.
The roller is an amazing physical cue to keep your shoulders pinned back. I love it and Joe is a training genius with simple concepts. I need ALLLLL the help for chest growth.
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Food shopping. This cart I’ll do once a week and then re-up (another $40ish) on proteins mid week (maybe another smaller one to cover the weekend too). The granola is new as I’m upping cals. Missing here is a 10lb bag of white rice, oatmeal/cream of rice, 2 bags of potatoes (had them at home).
Cliff notes:
~18lbs of chicken a week
~6lbs of steak a week
~10lb bag of rice a week
-2 4lb bags of potatoes a week
-4 dozen eggs and 4-6 cartons of egg whites a week
-greens (usually brussel sprouts) sparingly
-2 boxes of quick oats/cream of rice per week
-granola is new so maybe 3 of those a week
-1 apple and banana a day
-sauces for dayyyysssss
Takeaway: $200+ a week when you add cheat meals. Then factor supps in.
Cliff notes:
~18lbs of chicken a week
~6lbs of steak a week
~10lb bag of rice a week
-2 4lb bags of potatoes a week
-4 dozen eggs and 4-6 cartons of egg whites a week
-greens (usually brussel sprouts) sparingly
-2 boxes of quick oats/cream of rice per week
-granola is new so maybe 3 of those a week
-1 apple and banana a day
-sauces for dayyyysssss
Takeaway: $200+ a week when you add cheat meals. Then factor supps in.
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JackSmooth
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This log has already exceeded my expectations
Footnote for everyone viewing this thread. I’m new here, obviously. I may miss some shit you vets pick up. If you see me post anything that might be compromising, please PM me. Doing my best to show you guys all that I can but need to remember to be smart about it.
FourOneDeuxFitt
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Agreed this log is awesome thus far.
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