First anavar cycle female

[Happycamper]

I feel much, much better after a powerade and a meal. Still feel super pumped but not as flu-like.

I think Ive made my first rookie mistake by drinking so much water and sweating so much (did I also mention I use the sauna?? That will stop). I think electrolyte balance must be a priority for me personally.

Tomorrow (day 5) I will be back on the 5mg and see how it goes.

 

[GearGodess]

I'm here! Thanks for tagging as always. Let me catch up....

 

[GearGodess]

Oh boy.... there are a few red flags here that you revealed to us... first.... diet... second... training... third... supplements... fourth... the overall perception of things.... welcome and let's try to get you on the right track... I'll go into more detail in a little bit... just braving the snow storm we got and will reply once on the computer... hate typing on my phone... lol

 

[Happycamper]

Oh boy.... there are a few red flags here that you revealed to us... first.... diet... second... training... third... supplements... fourth... the overall perception of things.... welcome and let's try to get you on the right track... I'll go into more detail in a little bit... just braving the snow storm we got and will reply once on the computer... hate typing on my phone... lol

I'm going to respect everything you say and respect the experience, but I also want to point out that my diet and training over the years has helped me lose a ton of weight, get very strong, and helped me cope with anxiety and depression.

I track food very carefully and have a high protein, moderate carb and lower fat diet. I cook my meals at home. I don't eat fast food. I train every day with passion and focus. Just adding a low dose of var to the mix to push past some physique plateaus.

And I'm really eager for your advice. Not being combative, just clarifying.

 

[GearGodess]

I'm going to respect everything you say and respect the experience, but I also want to point out that my diet and training over the years has helped me lose a ton of weight, get very strong, and helped me cope with anxiety and depression.

I track food very carefully and have a high protein, moderate carb and lower fat diet. I cook my meals at home. I don't eat fast food. I train every day with passion and focus. Just adding a low dose of var to the mix to push past some physique plateaus.

And I'm really eager for your advice. Not being combative, just clarifying.

Well, I'm not sure if you read the other girl's threads and seen what is posted there but here are my thoughts.... you seem to me as the classic case. I say this because I keep warning the ladies that they need to ensure they get enough protein in their diets otherwise there is a chance they will get insane cramps and pains similar to the PMS pains but in their stomach. When on gear especially. And by enough I mean amounts of 1.5-2g of protein for the pound of their weight. Which in reality isn't that much for someone who trains daily anyway. Var is a very mild but potent compound that will assist you in lean mass building but you MUST feed it enough plus it works in preserving the muscle and not eating through it. Reading that there are times you skip your meals is a big NO NO. This usually leads to feeling run down, tired, cramping and especially similar to PMS cramps. This is usually the indication of not enough protein and possibly upping your water intake but you have mentioned you drink a lot. So it must be the protein. You also need a significant amount of fats... good fats. And lower amount of carbs than you needed when you were in your twenties... I hate to say it but late twenties and early thirties, everything slows down and we need to adjust. Congrats on the weight loss, that is a huge accomplishment and I am proud of you for that and so is the rest of us. It requires a lot of work and dedication. If you log your food, then that's perfect but have you adjusted it to gear? Plus doing the same thing over the years, may have worked then but it sounds like you need a little adjustment.

As for training, yes I agree 100% that it is our happy pill in so many ways. Glad you found it as your outlet. I am all for fasting cardio in the mornings, somehow I truly believe this works 1 million percent better than doing cardio with food... as for working out, do you eat before weights or also do it on empty just with ECA and var in your system? I think it's important to at least have a quick protein shake with oats and some peanut butter right after. You doing more faster.... var won't make you superwoman, it will increase your strength but as someone mentioned already, focus on no weight and proper form first...the rest will follow. Once you build more muscle then you will get more power and more strength as well. It all comes in time...

I'll be right back... just heading to a meeting.... I'll respond to the other issues when I get back... sorry

 

[Happycamper]

Well, I'm not sure if you read the other girl's threads and seen what is posted there but here are my thoughts.... you seem to me as the classic case. I say this because I keep warning the ladies that they need to ensure they get enough protein in their diets otherwise there is a chance they will get insane cramps and pains similar to the PMS pains but in their stomach. When on gear especially. And by enough I mean amounts of 1.5-2g of protein for the pound of their weight. Which in reality isn't that much for someone who trains daily anyway. Var is a very mild but potent compound that will assist you in lean mass building but you MUST feed it enough plus it works in preserving the muscle and not eating through it. Reading that there are times you skip your meals is a big NO NO. This usually leads to feeling run down, tired, cramping and especially similar to PMS cramps. This is usually the indication of not enough protein and possibly upping your water intake but you have mentioned you drink a lot. So it must be the protein. You also need a significant amount of fats... good fats. And lower amount of carbs than you needed when you were in your twenties... I hate to say it but late twenties and early thirties, everything slows down and we need to adjust. Congrats on the weight loss, that is a huge accomplishment and I am proud of you for that and so is the rest of us. It requires a lot of work and dedication. If you log your food, then that's perfect but have you adjusted it to gear? Plus doing the same thing over the years, may have worked then but it sounds like you need a little adjustment.

As for training, yes I agree 100% that it is our happy pill in so many ways. Glad you found it as your outlet. I am all for fasting cardio in the mornings, somehow I truly believe this works 1 million percent better than doing cardio with food... as for working out, do you eat before weights or also do it on empty just with ECA and var in your system? I think it's important to at least have a quick protein shake with oats and some peanut butter right after. You doing more faster.... var won't make you superwoman, it will increase your strength but as someone mentioned already, focus on no weight and proper form first...the rest will follow. Once you build more muscle then you will get more power and more strength as well. It all comes in time...

I'll be right back... just heading to a meeting.... I'll respond to the other issues when I get back... sorry

You're absolutely freaking spot on.

Yesterday I had three high protein meals within a few hours of each other. No cardio it lifting. I slept early and deeply. Today I woke up feeling like a million bucks. I took 5mg before my workout.

I did legs in a more met con set up where I did 4 sets of about 70% rm, little rest and no fasted cardio. Variations of squats and DLs. I came home and made 3 eggs and a quarter of a whole wheat pita.

I look leaner and no bloat. In fact, my face is bright aND healthy today.

 

[rpbb]

You're absolutely freaking spot on.

Yesterday I had three high protein meals within a few hours of each other. No cardio it lifting. I slept early and deeply. Today I woke up feeling like a million bucks. I took 5mg before my workout.

I did legs in a more met con set up where I did 4 sets of about 70% rm, little rest and no fasted cardio. Variations of squats and DLs. I came home and made 3 eggs and a quarter of a whole wheat pita.

I look leaner and no bloat. In fact, my face is bright aND healthy today.

HC, glad you're here talking to GG, she's awesome and really knows her stuff.

 

[Devika]

@Devika @Crystal234 @GearGodess @HolRog28 @Sarah10

There you go, not alone in your endeavor now. I'll be following along.

Have you taken EC before? Have you taken any of those supplements before?

Thank you so much Eman. Will be following this log.

 

[Trapmonster]

I was aware large water intake was important while a female is on cycle, but did not know protein affected the overall well-being feeling

 

[Happycamper]

I would drop the milk thistle. I've never taken it but I have heard it doesn't agree with everyone. There was someone else taking MC supp and felt terrible but dropped it and progressively better. The pumps from var combined with MC side effects might be what is just making you feel shitty. Others will be here to chime in shortly.

I dropped the Milk Thistle and will be getting a TUDCA supp instead to be on the safe side.

 

[Eman]

I dropped the Milk Thistle and will be getting a TUDCA supp instead to be on the safe side.

I hope that helps. However, I've never been a big believer in liver support supplements in general. Seems like the jury is still out on them as to the effectiveness they really have from my limited reading on the subject. Water is the best thing IMO... Time as well.

Maybe @Dr JIM can give some insight on liver support supplements. The only studies I've really come across on this subject is when the supps were used to treat those with liver disease.

 

[Dr JIM]

@Dr JIM can give some insight on liver support supplements. The only studies I've really come across on this subject is when the supps were used to treat those with liver disease.

Big waste of MONEY, but there's always someone willing, to squander theirs on snake oil remedies!

 

[Happycamper]

Big waste of MONEY, but there's always someone willing, to squander theirs on snake oil remedies!

Haha ok that's that then.

 

[Dr JIM]

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And by enough I mean amounts of 1.5-2g of protein for the pound of their weight.

Have you ANY evidence to support the use of such high protein intake!

 

[Happycamper]

Have you ANY evidence to support the use of such high protein intake!

Not the OP you are replying to, but personally I do well on about 140-160g of protein. Not more and not much less. More and I have to sacrifice other macros to fit it in and I don't perform as well in the gym in addition to GI distress and insomnia; less than 130g and I get really, really sore and have poor recovery.

 

[Dr JIM]

Not the OP you are replying to, but personally I do well on about 140-160g of protein. Not more and not much less. More and I have to sacrifice other macros to fit it in and I don't perform as well in the gym in addition to GI distress and insomnia; less than 130g and I get really, really sore and have poor recovery.

Oh personal anecdotes don't "count" as evidence bc much like opinions everyone has theirs.

I was referring to SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE, as is LITERATURE, such high protein intake is beneficial from an anabolic perspective ESPECIALLY in Gals.

 

[Happycamper]

Oh personal anecdotes don't "count" as evidence bc much like opinions everyone has theirs.

I was referring to SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE, as is LITERATURE, such high protein intake is of benefit ESPECIALLY in Gals.

I understand the value of scientific evidence and respect it, but in the field of fitness and nutrition, studies are hard to give full authority because study samples are small and not as varied as the general population and often too short to make hardfast conclusions. Keeping detailed tracking of my own body and it's reactions to diet and training throughout the years has been my handbook, with foundations in the fundamentals of nutrition and fitness science, of course.

 

[Dr JIM]

I hope your not suggesting your SINGLE experience is better than that of even "small'' less then perfectly designed research, bc thats a cop out and the foundation for broscience. There are multiple studies on protein intake and the ideal seems to approximate 1GM/LB/day.

What is NOT known is how much AAS/PEDs may alter that requirement with respect to SKM anabolism.

 

[Happycamper]

I hope your not suggesting your SINGLE experience is better than that of even "small studies" less then perfectly designed research, bc thats a cop out and the foundation for broscience. There are multiple studies on protein intake and the ideal seems to approximate 1GM/LB/day.

What is NOT known is how much AAS may alter that requirement with respect to SKM anabolism.

Well, doesn't my individual experience match the science anyway? I'm not being combative, I'm just discussing. I love this stuff and pay very close attention to my body and science as well. No cop outs, no authoritative tone. Just passion for the topic. I'm no keyboard warrior, just a girl who loves to lift and eat

 

[Crystal234]

Sub'd and thanks for the heads up, @Eman.