I've tried to play this game of ToddleeMD twice now where I keep the test moderate and try to ramp up with masteron as he says (he calls it a neutral anabolic) but I cannot fooking take even a few mg of mast without being crippled by anxiety. I've tried it twice now and it destroys me even at low doses. No other drug does this for whatever reason. What is a good sub? EQ and especially primo both crash my E2... if I want to take 400 primo I need 600 test to stay in range... was thinking NPP but not sure how high is tolerable of a level on that or anadrol. Have used anavar and it's great. I can't even tell I'm on it from side effect perspective but it can't be run very long due to lipids. Perhaps it's best to just use more test like most guys do? Anyone run into this problem of what relatively neutral anabolic to stack on test that doesn't cause issues if it can't be masteron? As crazy as it sounds, I'm wondering I could tolerate 50-100mg of anadrol per day on top of 200mg of weekly test better than any other drug from a sides perspective. Anyone play test low and drop high for extended periods?
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
For those of you who play the 200mg test game and then add tons of anabolics on top, which do you use? I can't tolerate masteron at any dose.
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RekTest
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Best bulking cycle I loved was trt test and HIGH npp (700mg/wk)
I grew so easily on it, zero sides with keep e2 down.
Alot of recent threads are saying high test as the base is king though, which I have never tried high test bulking so I will be trying that early next year.
I grew so easily on it, zero sides with keep e2 down.
Alot of recent threads are saying high test as the base is king though, which I have never tried high test bulking so I will be trying that early next year.
With low test you can go for:
250 Test
700 Tren
700 Anadrol
This for sure will make you grow...... Personally had no sides on that cycle.
Low test high Masteron is for retards like ToddleeMD, he should just prescribe antibiotics instead of doing bodybuilding.
In general i prefer:
high test
high eq (1,5:1 Test:EQ)
all the HGH you can afford
10-20iu Humalog pre and postwo
You will feel great, sleep is great, bloods are great. What else?
Mr_Fusion
New Member
I am also prone to anxiety, but find that a 2:1 Test/NPP ratio works like magic for insane strength/size gains with a calm mind...
I have and have done this in the past. The idea was to avoid the overwhelming DHT levels of extra test. I have a lot of experience using primo and adex to control estrogen but diving down the dutasteride or finasteride rabbit hole I've got little interest in.
Nandrolone has been the most effective steroid for me by a country mile in terms of muscle growth. Sometimes I just feel off on it. I've done it up to 400mg per week in the past. I'm thinking this may be for the win.
With low test you can go for:
250 Test
700 Tren
700 Anadrol
This for sure will make you grow...... Personally had no sides on that cycle.
Low test high Masteron is for retards like ToddleeMD, he should just prescribe antibiotics instead of doing bodybuilding.
In general i prefer:
high test
high eq (1,5:1 Test:EQ)
all the HGH you can afford
10-20iu Humalog pre and postwo
You will feel great, sleep is great, bloods are great. What else?
What Todd says makes some much sense in my head and on paper and then he shows up onstage at 180 pounds on 3g of Masteron and I wonder like how does anyone listen to a word he says?
watchtymeflyyy
Member
Exactlyyyy. Lost all credibility after that.
bighunanballs
Well-known Member
He's a bad example lol he fucked his prep up. A better indicator is John Jewett.
For myself nandrolone is a nightmare. I'm unable to handle even low doses. The mental sides including anxiety and paranoia are off the charts. Generally feel like shit, lethargy, etc. masteron has no sides for me. I can run grams of it and nothing... I don't run "low testosterone" though. I can handle 500mg test fine then I'll add 500-2g's of Masteron. So far it's a recomping dream. I'm losing bf and adding muscle for months on end while eating right around maintenance maybe slightly at a deficit
