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I can't even imagine what 1900 calories feels like. It's amazing how different the male and female bodies are. I start pct on Sunday as well, so feeling u there. Good luck and keep grinding, round two will be here before u know it.
I can tell you what 1900 cals feels like
 
This is more interesting info for me. I never even considered the "after effects" yikes... I'm really glad I came across this site and am able to follow you girls first experiences. I'm still 50/50 on giving it a try in a couple months. @Happycamper if you consider all the side and after effects you've experienced so far is it still well worth it to you? do you think it would be just a positive for someone who's doing it strictly for appearance reasons as opposed to someone who's really trying to hit the weights hard and really go for prs?

My understanding of 'looking better' IS hitting weights hard and going for PRs. You can't build muscle without progression. It's the intensity in which you want to do this that makes the goal different.

For example, crystal and I are lifting heavy. But...I am doing a lot of compound movements that build overall mass while she is doing a combo of both, but giving attention to hypertrophy and muscle sculpting exercises to increase size. She's got to go heavy to build though, just not max level heavy which I am doing. A lot of the ladies actually have bigger or similar size to me up top as I do nothing in the hypertrophic range for arms. I work in the lower rep range to build strength without as much size. I barely ever do a bicep curl or skull crusher or calf raise or leg curl.

If you want to look better in the sense of being fit and lower BF...I don't think var is the answer. You can do that by tightening up your diet and having a good weights and cardio regimen that you follow consistently and as a woman, really eat a lot of lean protein while lifting weights. I made really dramatic changes before this 8 weeks of var...the var gave me better recovery to make gainz a bit quicker.

Var doesn't dramatically change your looks at all. It helps you get stronger which builds muscle mass which you have to reveal with diet anyway.

I personally think that in your case....you don't need it. But of course that is your decision to make, ultimately.
 
I'm 165lbs and 5'7...I train 2x a day. Hr monitor has me at 2800 total calorie burn workout days and my rest day I burn about 2300. 1900 has me HANGRY. I have to do at least a day a week at 2500 so I can get a good night's rest.
eat girl...
my suggestion is to give your body time to adapt to the new mass before a hard cut. Cut too fast you will dump buckets of your hard earned muscle. Then again I do things differently than a lot of guys here they may tell you differently. I don't mind taking an extra 4 weeks to lean out if I can keep my strength....
 
eat girl...
my suggestion is to give your body time to adapt to the new mass before a hard cut. Cut too fast you will dump buckets of your hard earned muscle. Then again I do things differently than a lot of guys here they may tell you differently. I don't mind taking an extra 4 weeks to lean out if I can keep my strength....
I just want a hamburger from The Habit with a side of tempura green beans. :(
 
You can't build muscle without progression. It's the intensity in which you want to do this that makes the goal different.

For example, crystal and I are lifting heavy. But...I am doing a lot of compound movements that build overall mass while she is doing a combo of both, but giving attention to hypertrophy and muscle sculpting exercises to increase size. She's got to go heavy to build though, just not max level heavy which I am doing. A lot of the ladies actually have bigger or similar size to me up top as I do nothing in the hypertrophic range for arms. I work in the lower rep range to build strength without as much size. I barely ever do a bicep curl or skull crusher or calf raise or leg curl.
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I just want a hamburger from The Habit with a side of tempura green beans. :(
maybe not that...
eat big. just eat clean.
you will have to restructure your programming now your recovery wont be near as good, cant train as frequently at the same intensity you could on cycle. You actually can end up doing more harm than good as I know first hand, chronic overtrainer here.
 
I've read that most people advise to eat not just at maintenance, but at least a little bit at a surplus in order to keep the new muscle gainz.

But I'm curious how that would effect someone who still wants to cut a little bit of body fat. I'm worried about coming off cycle and gaining excess fat, even if I only eat at a slight surplus. But I definitely don't want to lose any gainz. =\
 
I'm not an authority on on any of this btw, most of my knowledge is anecdotal at best. But I do know that I only considered var after a full year of no progression and actual regression and muscle atrophy for reasons I could not figure out. And I also went in prepared that I'd have to cycle a few times to get dramatic changes. This is a simple, tedious process - eat and lift ad naseaum. Adding var to the mix would just help with frustrations you inevitabley get in fitness as you age and get past newbie/intermediate gains.
 
I've read that most people advise to eat not just at maintenance, but at least a little bit at a surplus in order to keep the new muscle gainz.

But I'm curious how that would effect someone who still wants to cut a little bit of body fat. I'm worried about coming off cycle and gaining excess fat, even if I only eat at a slight surplus. But I definitely don't want to lose any gainz. =\
You would eat at maintenance and ease into caloric deficit, aiming for slow loss. Keep protein super high and still train heavy, just not across so many sets. But you're right. Just be mindful of your body and how it reacts.
 
There are more than one ways to skin a cat
You can't train off cycle like you can while your on. This is a given
But you can divide up your program so your hitting all the same body parts more often just with less total volume each day

The biggest detriment to being off cycle is RECOVERY.
 
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