GearGodess is Meso's biggest scam

I'll work on that and post it early next week. For the last month I've been working on mostly hiit so I can burn off these last couple pounds and just maintain the muscle I do have.

I don't actually have a training layout like I've seen in y'alls logs. Probably something I need to get worked out :confused:
Then you don't have a training program
 
I'll work on that and post it early next week. For the last month I've been working on mostly hiit so I can burn off these last couple pounds and just maintain the muscle I do have.

I don't actually have a training layout like I've seen in y'alls logs. Probably something I need to get worked out :confused:

Im not gonna tell anybody what to or not to do, but seems like a lot of beginners just want immediate gains without the hard work and sacrifice it takes to achieve the physique you desire. Nothing worth having comes fast and easy.
My life revolves around training and proper diet and it has been that way for over 20 years. Drugs are just a small part of it, albeit an important part but without the absolute dedication that i have in the other areas drugs would be pointless.
This is not directed at you in-particularly but to all beginners with just a couple years training under their belt.
Its about the journey not the destination.
 
Nope. Not really :( I work out with my girlfriend that's a trainer at last once a week. She always has a routine planned out and I just go with it. the other days she will either send me a video or list or I will find a routine on Internet myself. Example:Screenshot_2016-05-06-21-59-19.png


To be completely honest, I wouldn't even know how to set up a routine like y'alls just yet.
 
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Thank you, but I want shoulders and back like Crystal, curves and mid section like devika and thighs like happy, Dammit!! :D

I was doing great before the boob job, but hit a plateau for the last month or so. I wasn't seeing any more weight loss or muscle definition. I'm going to work hard for the next month and get back to that point and hopefully get through. If not, I'll consider var a little more seriously. For now I'm just going to follow the girls and educate myself. I'm sure I'm gonna give it a try at some point even if it's a little further down the road.
Both those ladies have only been on anavar for a little over a month. The bodies they display have been worked on for years up until now.

You're getting a free pass from the guys because you're super sweet and very pretty.

If you were a guy ( or ugly/fat girl) on the main board, they'd tear you to shreds about even considering AAS lol.
 
Nope. Not really :( I work out with my girlfriend that's a trainer at last once a week. She always has a routine planned out and I just go with it. the other days she will either send me a video or list out I week find a routine on Internet myself. Example:View attachment 41756


To be completely honest, I wouldn't even know how to set up a routine like y'alls just yet.
Dual-factor Bodybuilding routine for Intermediate and Advanced lifters
Here. It's a good one
That bullshit you posted above is nothing more than a warmup
Do this for 3 months at least before taking another step forward
Eat at a deficit
Walla
 
Both those ladies have only been on anavar for a little over a month. The bodies they display have been worked on for years up until now.

You're getting a free pass from the guys because you're super sweet and very pretty.

If you were a guy ( or ugly/fat girl) on the main board, they'd tear you to shreds about even considering AAS lol.

Lol! I hear you. I know I'm not ready, I'll openly admit that, but I do want to learn. I'm not one to jump the gun, so if it takes another year or so, I'm good with that. I'm just trying to get the best understanding I can right now
 
Nope. Not really :( I work out with my girlfriend that's a trainer at last once a week. She always has a routine planned out and I just go with it. the other days she will either send me a video or list out I week find a routine on Internet myself. Example:View attachment 41756


To be completely honest, I wouldn't even know how to set up a routine like y'alls just yet.

I admire your honesty, it takes a while to figure out which exercises and routines work best for YOU!!! What work for Devica might not work for you and vise versa. But with time you will dial it in to what your body responds best to.
Good luck Bmae1 , i have no doubt you will get where you wanna go. [emoji4]
 
Nope. Not really :( I work out with my girlfriend that's a trainer at last once a week. She always has a routine planned out and I just go with it. the other days she will either send me a video or list out I week find a routine on Internet myself. Example:View attachment 41756


To be completely honest, I wouldn't even know how to set up a routine like y'alls just yet.

That's the first thing we need to work on. Going session to session without any kind of progression can keep you in decent shape but isn't likely to get you where you want to be.

The good news is it is easily fixable and once you get on a solid program and continue to put in the work you should be very happy with your results.

There are a lot more people working out like you rather than training towards a goal. This is actually best case scenario, once you start on a solid program and see your lifts going up steadily and your body subtly transforming each week you will feed off of it.
 
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That pretty much sums up my entire situation right now. What are your thoughts on the routine truckker linked? A good place for me to start?

I think it is likely too advanced. It seems like you have been doing lots of ab movements, warm up type things and cardio. We need to know your weight training history.

I have zero doubt once we get all of the information a good easy to follow program can be put together that you will make quick progress on. The good news is the training you have been doing should increase your work capacity so we can start with more volume than most newer lifters could handle.
 
@Bmae1
Hey babe,
There are many ways you can set up a training plan. Some people like to divide them in push/pull days. They'll train back/bis (pull) together and another day tris/chest (push), somewhere in between you do legs and shoulders. Many even include shoulder in chest day since chest exercises engage your front delts.

Others may opt so split them bis/tris, chest/back.
There's no right or wrong way, just different methods.
You gotta try it yourself and see what works best for you.

Herein is a template I've used in the past. It involves super sets. That's why you'll see a & b.

If you're not familiar with the names of an exercise I suggest you look it up in YouTube or even bodybuilding.com
Pay close attention to the form needed.
Start with light weight until you get the form down. You can even ask your trainer friend to watch your form.

Like I said, this is just template of a way you can set up a training plan. I've used it in the past w success. If you check out the beginning of my log, you'll see I have a different routine now. Doing push/pull days and legs 3x a week. I don't really superset now bc it's not very practical or optimal for the results I'm going for. However, super sets worked great w the routine below.

If you have any questions or need some guidance, you can always PM me. I'll be more than happy to help you any way I can :)

Day 1 ‐ Chest and Back

1a. Barbell Bench Press
1b. Wide Grip Lat Pulldowns

2a. Alternating Incline DB Press
2b. Bent‐over Barbell Rows

3a. Incline Dumbell Flies
3b. Underhand Lat Pulldowns

Day 2 ‐ Legs (Squats)

1a. Barbell Squats
1b. Seated Hamstring Curls

2a. Front Squats
2b. Lying Hamstring Curls

4a. Standing DB or BB Calf Raises 4 x 15 4b. Seated Calf Raises 4 x 15

Day 3 ‐ Biceps and Triceps

1a. Standard DB Curls
1b. Rope Tricep Push‐downs

2a. Incline Dumbell Curls
2b. Reverse Grip Tricep Push‐downs

3a. DB Hammer Curls
3b. Bench / Chair Dips 4 x 25

Day 4 ‐ Shoulders
1a. Strict Overhead Barbell Press
1b. Seated Reverse Flies

2a. DB Lateral Raises
2b. Barbell Upright Rows

3a. Face Pulls
3b. Bent Over Rear Delt Rows

4a. DB Front Raises
4b. DB Shoulder Press

Day 5 ‐ Leg Day (Deadlifts)

1a. Deadlifts
1b. Leg Press

2a. Barbell or DB Romanian Deadlifts

3a. Swiss Ball Hamstring Curls
3b. Jump Lunges 4x10 (each side)

Edit- you can always add abs and cardio to any of those days
 
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Lol! I hear you. I know I'm not ready, I'll openly admit that, but I do want to learn. I'm not one to jump the gun, so if it takes another year or so, I'm good with that. I'm just trying to get the best understanding I can right now
You have to also find what drives you. Many lifters and bodybuilders are passionate about a look they'D like to obtain: so for example when working back, they visualize something like 'turtle back' or legs they visualize 'teardrop quad' that allows them to engage and contract the muscles they are trying to target. Gyms sessions become an art in sculpting rather than just sweating. Tension, contraction, concentric/eccentric movememt, knowing your fatigue benchmarks, understanding drop sets, various grips...it's not just vanity, it's being in tune with the best movements that stimulate your body.

Training strength, I often visualize myself 'rescuing' my daughter. When deadlifting, I imagine her trapped under a car that I've got to lift up, or living in Cali, being in an earthquake and having to dig her out from rubble. Chest movements have me visualizing being trapped under rubble myself and having to push off something trapping me so I can then get to her. I know that I might be hurt or tired in such situations so when I'm at the last bit of my energy, I think of those things to get me those extra reps that ultimately provide the stimulation that builds new muscle. I train sprinting and running and think of an earthquake crushing my car and no cell service therefore having to run across town several miles to get to her school to check on her. It gets me through 15 miles trail runs or sprints after a hard deadlift day. There are no excuses in an emergency; so I conjure up those visualizations to help me obtain strength I'd normally not have the drive or ability to build if casually training.
It helps me justify eating healthy quantities of food to perform and allows me to get over numbers on the scale and push past hangups and/obsessions with being slim and small. Yes I may be more muscular than the average woman, but I'm also stronger, faster, more energetic and fitter than a huge majority of them as well.

Find your passion. If you like group settings and do fitness to socialize and have fun...keep doing what gets you consistently sticking to your routine. Weight training/endurance training is often a lonely endeavor where you have to dig deep within yourself for motivation. Guys tend to have lifting buddies for a spot and such, but that's still one on one interaction. You seem extroverted and a social butterfly. These things may seem trivial but it's important when picking what will make you make it a habit.
 
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Just because she would always either say exactly what I would say in threads, or say I was wrong I'm going to talk shit about her... just a little tho. Geargodess has went to asf to act like she knows it all.


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I haven't been active lately but when did Meso get a women's section? @Millard Baker, did you know we have a women's section now? o_O

In my head, I actually believed she was this shredded physique competitor giving us all this advice.
She could have competed in the past and been shredded AF.
Perhaps she did over exaggerate her current stats.

[Devika, my comments aren't directed at you, I'm just using your post for context so apologies in advance for appearing to single you out.]

I just noticed this thread (Hell, I just noticed this section!) so I haven't been through the whole thing yet. I'm not going to comment on GG since I don't know enough about her to judge one way or the other, but I will caution members not judge someone's level of knowledge based on their current physique. Physiques change all the time and anyone who has spent many years training will have gone through periods when they've looked good and others when they've looked like warmed over dogshit. However, just because the physique is gone, or not what it once was, or even never was, doesn't mean the knowledge went with it. Just the opposite.

For example, would you take serious training and AAS advice from this guy?

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What about 5 years earlier when he looked like this?

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My point (and believe it or not I do have one) is that we should judge the quality of information members provide rather than how they currently look, before deciding whether they're credible or not.

Meso has always been an evidence based forum rather than one that relies on the degree of physical conditioning of its members as a determinate of knowledge. I've noticed we've been moving away from that a little bit lately so wanted to try to move it back.

CBS
 
@Bmae1
Hey babe,
There are many ways you can set up a training plan. Some people like to divide them in push/pull days. They'll train back/bis (pull) together and another day tris/chest (push), somewhere in between you do legs and shoulders. Many even include shoulder in chest day since chest exercises engage your front delts.

Others may opt so split them bis/tris, chest/back.
There's no right or wrong way, just different methods.
You gotta try it yourself and see what works best for you.

Herein is a template I've used in the past. It involves super sets. That's why you'll see a & b.

If you're not familiar with the names of an exercise I suggest you look it up in YouTube or even bodybuilding.com
Pay close attention to the form needed.
Start with light weight until you get the form down. You can even ask your trainer friend to watch your form.

Like I said, this is just template of a way you can set up a training plan. I've used it in the past w success. If you check out the beginning of my log, you'll see I have a different routine now. Doing push/pull days and legs 3x a week. I don't really superset now bc it's not very practical or optimal for the results I'm going for. However, super sets worked great w the routine below.

If you have any questions or need some guidance, you can always PM me. I'll be more than happy to help you any way I can :)

Day 1 ‐ Chest and Back

1a. Barbell Bench Press
1b. Wide Grip Lat Pulldowns

2a. Alternating Incline DB Press
2b. Bent‐over Barbell Rows

3a. Incline Dumbell Flies
3b. Underhand Lat Pulldowns

Day 2 ‐ Legs (Squats)

1a. Barbell Squats
1b. Seated Hamstring Curls

2a. Front Squats
2b. Lying Hamstring Curls

4a. Standing DB or BB Calf Raises 4 x 15 4b. Seated Calf Raises 4 x 15

Day 3 ‐ Biceps and Triceps

1a. Standard DB Curls
1b. Rope Tricep Push‐downs

2a. Incline Dumbell Curls
2b. Reverse Grip Tricep Push‐downs

3a. DB Hammer Curls
3b. Bench / Chair Dips 4 x 25

Day 4 ‐ Shoulders
1a. Strict Overhead Barbell Press
1b. Seated Reverse Flies

2a. DB Lateral Raises
2b. Barbell Upright Rows

3a. Face Pulls
3b. Bent Over Rear Delt Rows

4a. DB Front Raises
4b. DB Shoulder Press

Day 5 ‐ Leg Day (Deadlifts)

1a. Deadlifts
1b. Leg Press

2a. Barbell or DB Romanian Deadlifts

3a. Swiss Ball Hamstring Curls
3b. Jump Lunges 4x10 (each side)

Edit- you can always add abs and cardio to any of those days


Thank you!! That looks like a great place to start at. You guys are awesome and I really appreciate you guys honesty and thank you for not tearing me apart for asking about all of this before I was ready ;)
 
I haven't been active lately but when did Meso get a women's section? @Millard Baker, did you know we have a women's section now? o_O



[Devika, my comments aren't directed at you, I'm just using your post for context so apologies in advance for appearing to single you out.]

I just noticed this thread (Hell, I just noticed this section!) so I haven't been through the whole thing yet. I'm not going to comment on GG since I don't know enough about her to judge one way or the other, but I will caution members not judge someone's level of knowledge based on their current physique. Physiques change all the time and anyone who has spent many years training will have gone through periods when they've looked good and others when they've looked like warmed over dogshit. However, just because the physique is gone, or not what it once was, or even never was, doesn't mean the knowledge went with it. Just the opposite.

For example, would you take serious training and AAS advice from this guy?

9jg2s4.png





What about 5 years earlier when he looked like this?

hqdefault.jpg



My point (and believe it or not I do have one) is that we should judge the quality of information members provide rather than how they currently look, before deciding whether they're credible or not.

Meso has always been an evidence based forum rather than one that relies on the degree of physical conditioning of its members as a determinate of knowledge. I've noticed we've been moving away from that a little bit lately so wanted to try to move it back.

CBS

I understand what you are saying and completely agree with you, but in this case she has yet to prove she was ever in that condition. She sent us girls a full body pic of her currently, including her face. Pics of her bra, pants, one in the car, old pics in a bathroom, but apparently any of the pro body building pics she claims to have is asking to much. She only posted one in the thread, with her head completely cut off. It just doesn't add up. Mix that in with the fact that she was called out publicly for being a fraud and has had this issue on other forums for the same thing and it starts to stink. Not to mention the private messages and couple other issues mentioned in the thread.

It's really not a big deal, She may know what she's talking about, but based on what I've seen and read, I'll just be scrolling right past any advice she gives.
 
I appreciate Any advice you want to give on this :) I'm going to try to read through you and crystals logs entirely to get a better idea of where I need to start out at and what realistic expectations should be.

You both have amazing bodies that I would love to achieve. :p I'm going to just keep at it and follow y'alls progress so I can get a better grasp on how all of this works.
Hey, lady! There have been many great suggestions here but I thought it might be worth it to mention that another great program you might want to look into is Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe. I used it myself years ago and may incorporate it again after my cycle is over.

I would recommend getting the book rather than just doing the program off the wiki since the book has a ton of important information, especially in regards to form for those very important compound movements. There are also a ton of female Starting Strength logs on other forums, which I find are really helpful.

It might sound a little intimidating but you can always start out with just the empty bar. Try for the target reps. When you are able to do all sets and reps at that weight, increase them a little next time. If you can't do them, don't increase. There's no rush. Start low and easy, progress slowly and steadily. With strength gainz, you will see your physique slowly transform.;)

You are on the right path and smart for researching and taking your time before jumping into AAS. No one is ripping you a new one because it doesn't seem like you're in a rush or expecting Anavar to magically transform you, lol. I didn't see anything wrong with you being on the forums and looking into AAS, because you were just researching. But now that we have more background info on you, I would highly advise you to get a solid training program and diet in order before looking into AAS any further. You can always hit me up if you have any questions or need help with anything. We are here for ya!
 
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