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[Stretch]

Wait, so if some asshole sends me a private message, it's not mine? Fuck that. If you don't want something you said to get out, don't fucking say it. At all. Private messages my ass. There's no such thing. If admins don't have direct access to them through the bulletin board interface, they can read them in plain text through MySQL. If they aren't private to them, they aren't private to anyone. To be polite, I'd normally ask. This was business related, business between myself and Stretch. I'll post it if I goddamn well please.

See, there's a problem here no one is willing to address. If I were to post a PM about how Stretch did me a solid, no one would care. You guys want transparency when it suits you, but not if you don't like what the transparency reveals.

I'm glad it's finally out that the Red Tops are bunk. Still, I can't believe you'd be sending them out, not knowing what's in them. This amounts to you sending an unknown substance out to your customers and expecting them to inject it into their bodies. That's beyond irresponsible, it's fucking reckless.

Let me get this straight Stretch, by your own admission:

You make $100 ever time you sell a box of Red Tops and some poor guy injects who knows what into his body? No sir, you are the asshole. That's fucking greedy, and it's fucking low.

The rest of you, you do what you want. Say what you want. But don't challenge Stretch, because despite what Dr JIM says, he is above reproach. Throw me a fucking bone? Is that what you call it? I'm good. I'll pass.

I wouldn't put it past you to back Herc, or SM, or anyone else and let them vet people only to fiddle around behind the scenes to drive people to Biologic. It's a pretty good strategy. Smart even. Guys, take a look at what he's done here. He's worked for another UGL, opened his own(? verdict's still out on that one), and had some very strange dealings with another- each time driving defrauded or unsatisfied customers to Biologic. Aside from that, his actions since becoming a "rep" have been a bit shady.

Note, I'm not saying their gear isn't g2g. But if someone got bunk gear, you think anyone would believe you? Ever? I don't. I don't think there's a thing you could say about Stretch, true or not, that anyone here would stand behind. I wonder how many people here are in your pocket.

Your ignorance astounds, and doesn't merit a full response.

I will say the only comment I feel requires any form of retort, is the comment you made about the red-tops.

I tell people not to buy them. If they order them on the site, we inform people of the bad test results. So anyone who purchases the red-tops, knows just as much as we do about them. Swing again, A.Bitch.


I love how nowhere in your post, do you retract what you said about the GH deal being shady, even though the evidence posted, clearly shows I was only trying to help you in an honest way.

 

[cobra500]

Here's the deal with the RedTops. We sold REDTOP kits to 2 members recently...(1-2 months ago). At this time we had several people who have had good blood work tests on them.

Shortly after selling 1 member 3 kits he returned with bloodwork showing they were bunk. He was immediately, and without question refunded. I won't disclose his name, but if he see's this, I would appreciate him backing me up.

Ok, I just got on and had a chance to catch up on this stuff. I'm the person Stretch is speaking of above. I got the three red top kits, took it for two weeks, got tested and contacted Stretch about it being bunk. No questions asked he 100% refunded me and then some. I think he was more mad than me. I knew he wouldn't, nor would he ever screw me. Anytime there has ever been a problem or issue with anything he has ALWAYS made it right. Hope this clears up things. Stretch is a stand up guy with nothing to hide.

 

[Dr JIM]

Everyone is "in his pocket"
why even myself, so why waste your time with endless lame and unsubstantiated claims? Your only pissed because you we not selected to get some GH, admit it "bitch"!

 

[searay]

Wow! A man running a business and looking out for and taking care of his customers! So that word of mouth and customer satisfaction runs its course! What a concept!!

 

[a.witch]

Your ignorance astounds, and doesn't merit a full response.

I will say the only comment I feel requires any form of retort, is the comment you made about the red-tops.

I tell people not to buy them. If they order them on the site, we inform people of the bad test results. So anyone who purchases the red-tops, knows just as much as we do about them. Swing again, A.Bitch.

Well, whatever. I don't really care Stretch. In my book you're a shady guy. Shady guys don't get my money. But guys, keep in mind how this guy operates, and remember this if you ever have a problem with him. When you post, expect the same treatment from him and his friends

Oh, and Stretch, I have no problem posting the emails here. There's really nothing in them aside from the Western Union details. The only thing that really set off feelers is that well after you gave me the "heads up" he sent me Western Union info and kept asking for a payment.

My beef isn't with Surabaya, and it isn't with Biologic. My beef is with Stretch. I'm putting a fork in it; it's done.

 

[cobra500]

Everyone is "in his pocket"
why even myself, so why waste your time with endless lame and unsubstantiated claims? Your only pissed because you we not selected to get some GH, admit it "bitch"!

LOL, yep Jim I feel so much better that we can now tell the truth! [)] Stretch makes my mortgage payment and pays for weekly massages at my house. All I have to pay for are the groceries, thanks Stretch!

 

[Stretch]

Well, whatever. I don't really care Stretch. In my book you're a shady guy. Shady guys don't get my money. But guys, keep in mind how this guy operates, and remember this if you ever have a problem with him. When you post, expect the same treatment from him and his friends

Oh, and Stretch, I have no problem posting the emails here. There's really nothing in them aside from the Western Union details. The only thing that really set off feelers is that well after you gave me the "heads up" he sent me Western Union info and kept asking for a payment.

My beef isn't with Surabaya, and it isn't with Biologic. My beef is with Stretch. I'm putting a fork in it; it's done.

You think BioLogic hasn't had complaints?!?

Are you fucking stupid?

Complaints don't make it to the board because we go above and beyond to make things right when we make a mistake. We've delivered crashed gear, we've delayed shipping, made shipping errors, we've made mistakes A.witch. And we've paid for them in spades, and moved on.

 

[Dr JIM]

I'll do what I please by golly and none of you on Meso can stop me so there!!!

A "chemist"! Oh really, just more BULLSHIT. Fella if you could manufacture Fentanyl you damn sure would not be hanging around Meso bragging about how easy it is to produce a schedule II parenteral drug which rivals heroin in potency.

Hey have you told Mommie how Stretch fucked you yet, I'm sure she will have a more open ear, LOL!

Where in the hell do people like YOU come from. We got, ACE, David of Thor and now BITCH, lol!

 

[a.witch]

You think BioLogic hasn't had complaints?!?

Are you fucking stupid?

Complaints don't make it to the board because we go above and beyond to make things right when we make a mistake. We've delivered crashed gear, we've delayed shipping, made shipping errors, we've made mistakes A.witch. And we've paid for them in spades, and moved on.

Well man, that's fine. Good for you. You know, and I hope you guys continue to do that. I really hope people don't get burned. Aside from your love of the word bitch, you don't seem like a bad person, and I know of no incident in which you have fucked anyone. That needs to be said.

My issues with you are this:
1) I found the Red Top issue to be shady, and continued listing of it on the site didn't seem very forthcoming. It seemed off. I didn't trust it.

2) Your dealings with Herc were both untimely and, in light of the bunk gear, are even more suspicious. Especially when you seem to profit from this venture no matter what. You sell gear to Herc, and Herc's gear winds up being bunk. Herc loses people, you gain them. Herc keeps people, you could always sell to Herc again. This is not an accusation, it's a matter of fact. It's shady.

Edit: And let's not forget Steroids-Fax.

3) You are seemingly made of Teflon. Nothing anyone says about you sticks, and everyone seems a bit hesitant when it comes to questioning you. When someone does, half the board jumps their shit. That's oppressive, and it has a chilling effect on would-be nay sayers. It's the 500lb elephant in the room.

 

[1forthegeeks]

Witch, you have to consider that maybe we all just like Stretch. We have all invested, and yet no one is standing up to join your crusade. Maybe their was an issue with that product but, if I wanted to order the blue tops he put on the group order with a disclaimer, I DON'T RECOMMEND, then I'm screwing myself.
If you come into my job and I tell you not to buy this product because its a pos and you ask me to ring it up, I HAVE to sell it to you. It's my job. You have to understand that.

 

[1forthegeeks]

Obviously he isn't the only person in BL, so someone there believes in that product. He is trying to protect the customers he brings in by issuing the warning. That's all he can do. He's not going to quit because he doesn't like one item, eventually they will replace it.

 

[Stretch]

3) You are seemingly made of Teflon. Nothing anyone says about you sticks, and everyone seems a bit hesitant when it comes to questioning you. When someone does, half the board jumps their shit. That's oppressive, and it has a chilling effect on would-be nay sayers. It's the 500lb elephant in the room.

That's assuming someone has said something about me. What has anyone ever said negative about me, AFTER dealing with me?

Yes, a lot of speculation about what I WOULD do has been thrown around, but what has been said about my actions that's negative??

 

[1forthegeeks]

Although I do blame you Stretch for somehow convincing M Lynch for not scoring any TDs today in a 40 point game!

Can you say conspiracy!

8)

 

[ChaseQ]

Well man, that's fine. Good for you. You know, and I hope you guys continue to do that. I really hope people don't get burned. Aside from your love of the word bitch, you don't seem like a bad person, and I know of no incident in which you have fucked anyone. That needs to be said.

My issues with you are this:
1) I found the Red Top issue to be shady, and continued listing of it on the site didn't seem very forthcoming. It seemed off. I didn't trust it.

2) Your dealings with Herc were both untimely and, in light of the bunk gear, are even more suspicious. Especially when you seem to profit from this venture no matter what. You sell gear to Herc, and Herc's gear winds up being bunk. Herc loses people, you gain them. Herc keeps people, you could always sell to Herc again. This is not an accusation, it's a matter of fact. It's shady.

Edit: And let's not forget Steroids-Fax.

3) You are seemingly made of Teflon. Nothing anyone says about you sticks, and everyone seems a bit hesitant when it comes to questioning you. When someone does, half the board jumps their shit. That's oppressive, and it has a chilling effect on would-be nay sayers. It's the 500lb elephant in the room.

Seriously man you really need to shut the fuck up. You act like youre saving us from some big bad scary monster...I get it chicken little, the sky is falling the sky is falling. Now take all your little hunches, feelings, opinions and just go away already.

Stretch has been a solid guy and done good by me and many others here. Far more than anyone can expect from an online forum.

So let me ask, who the fuck are you? Seriously now, who have you done right by? Who here can say youre a stand up guy? Who have you helped out?

Now watch this...NO ONE because you are NO ONE!

 

[loveyourbody]

I can't speak for stretch I have not ordered from BL so I have no word on his gear. I have talked to him through PM that's about it. He seems like a buisness man to me. Straight forward answers and want to protect his image. He seems like a nice guy. A.witch has his own opinion let's respect that. It is human instinct to doubt it is what has kept us alive for the longest time. Unless 100% proven then we can't say something didn't happen. Could BL have given herc some bunk gear sure. Did they we won't know. Maybe he wanted people to doubt hercs gear and order from his company. Easy way to increase his customer and profit while at the same time knock out competition. Like I said its a possibility but we won't know. It's real life it's like the buisness world I rip off people and small businesses to increase profit while at the same time finding ways to knock out competition by telling them bad things about our competition. I know it's fucked up but that life the wise will rule the strong. I don't consider myself a bad person that's just how life works!

 

[alaskinassasin]

Quick question back on the topic of Herc. Does anyone know the other boards he was attempting to establish himself on? It seems he's moved on from Meso and is probably throwing his shit somewhere else.

Now Ill let you guys get back to tearing A.witch a new ass hole. Its rather entertaining [)]

 

[Ravtech]

Just to bring things back on topic for a second, has it been undeniably proven that herc's gear is all consistently bunk now? Or was there a bad batch from a raw material supplier that rapidly spiraled into him becoming the antichrist? I've been keeping on top of the thread and it seems like after a few negative comments it went from being pure gold to snake oil. Most importantly, has anyone had any health issues from the standpoint of sterility, bad fillers, etc? The being scammed should be secondary to making sure no one got hurt from it.

 

[ChaseQ]

I can't speak for stretch I have not ordered from BL so I have no word on his gear. I have talked to him through PM that's about it. He seems like a buisness man to me. Straight forward answers and want to protect his image. He seems like a nice guy. A.witch has his own opinion let's respect that. It is human instinct to doubt it is what has kept us alive for the longest time. Unless 100% proven then we can't say something didn't happen. Could BL have given herc some bunk gear sure. Did they we won't know. Maybe he wanted people to doubt hercs gear and order from his company. Easy way to increase his customer and profit while at the same time knock out competition. Like I said its a possibility but we won't know. It's real life it's like the buisness world I rip off people and small businesses to increase profit while at the same time finding ways to knock out competition by telling them bad things about our competition. I know it's fucked up but that life the wise will rule the strong. I don't consider myself a bad person that's just how life works!

Entitled to an opinion, yes. A person should base their opinion on facts and all evidence thats available. With a little effort and some reading he would see that his "opinion" isnt based on anything other than some self conceived BS that has no merit in facts.

 

[Bucky]

Stretch is a solid dude in my book. There was some confusion with payment for my small order and he gave it to me. Definitely not the characteristics of a scammer.

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Stretch is a solid dude in my book. There was some confusion with payment for my small order and he gave it to me. Definitely not the characteristics of a scammer.

Ha. What a "shady" guy!!