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Home brewing doesn't require one to be anything near a chemist. If you had a friend that worked for a major pharm company what good would that do you? He's going to smuggle the raw steroid powders home from work?
This thread and the posts that are being made are just plain silly. What does this kid have to offer to this forum. You showed up because you got beat by herc like many others did. How did this turn into a thread for you to talk about your fantasy's about being a big time drug manufacturer.
a.witch, you're a noob when it comes to AAS. Correct? If you weren't you wouldn't be ordering from herc or any of the untested sources here. This means you have no connections which means your supposes skills in the lab are useless.
You seem to think it necessary for some reason to separate yourself from the average member here at meso? It's gonna take time for that, son. Nobody knows you. You've got nothing useful to offer, or so you believe, because you're a noob to all this. There's no shame in that, kiddo. Let your guard down and behave yourself. We'll accept you for you.
You'll keep your façade going for a while. Check this out. You need us much more than we need you. If you fell off and never post again we'll forget you by lunch tomorrow. The part in this that has to do with your progression in the community is that you'll have to start all over again. I get that you enjoy popping up spouting some shit that stirs the pot some, but you're hurting your chances at getting to know folks that can help you achieve what you and most guys here want. Connections. You need people in our community to get connections. Your arrogance and silly stories will keep you right where you are. Fucking kids these days.

I've been out of the game for a while. Years. Let myself go, sopped lifting, stopped giving a shit about my body. I'd had a local source for gear a long time ago, and wanted to get on again. That source no longer exists, and I was once again new at a gym I'd held a membership at for nearly a decade. Most of the guys I lifted with had gone elsewhere, and people I still knew didn't have a local source or didn't use. So I went online. I've done plenty of cycles. I'm not new to this, I just didn't have a source.

You're right, you don't need to be a chemist to homebrew. But a fundamental understanding of the basic principles of chemistry is useful. What I'd meant when I'd mentioned it was to make a comparison. If I can do something much more difficult, there's really no reason for me not to be homebrewing. Initially I didn't bother, afraid that something much more complex was involved, but research revealed that there wasn't.

Edit: I only posted about my synthesis and it's developments in response to Dr JIM.

Cultivating a relationship with the SA rep where you've worked for years isn't difficult. Not saying that I have, or even that he's my source, but whatever. I asked that question as a complete hypothetical. I'm not going to divulge my source. Sources for raw powders are plentiful and around to be had.

Look, I get what you're saying, and that's fine. You're right when you said that I came here to find a source. I no longer need one, and I don't trust a single one with a rep on this board- nor do I trust the opinion of any vet here concerning the quality of those sources. Still, I like the community here, and most of the guys here seem cool enough. I plan to stay for that reason alone.

I'll be me and you can be your antagonistic self in perpetuity. I'll watch for a response, but this will likely be my last post in the Steroid Underground subforum. I don't really have a need for it anymore. There are other places on the board that suit me just fine.
 
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I'll be me and you can be your antagonistic self in perpetuity. I'll watch for a response, but this will likely be my last post in the Steroid Underground subforum. I don't really have a need for it anymore. There are other places on the board that suit me just fine.
You don't and never did have a colleague that works at SA.
I'm assuming the wonderful source you recently came up on pm'd you and told you that he could tell you weren't like the other fish here and that as smart as you are you'd be able to tell he was a real deal savior and will open doors that you can appreciate and this is why he hit you up.
You don't need a source, in all likely hood, because it's gonna take a few months of socking away your allowance and lunch money to roll the dice again.
You say you've been out of the game and that you're a softy/fat ass. Bring this better than you attitude to the gym or anywhere you're gonna have issues. Bring the same attitude you have here with us to other parts of meso you'll also have issues.
I'm thinking you don't get out often. If and when you do, you're trooping down the sidewalk with your head down telling yourself "I'm almost home, I;m almost home." over and over again.
The net is like your fentanyl. It's your escape. You're whomever you want to be, even if it's just for 30 min. It get's you through. A much safer bet has you online between 8-12 hrs/ed, conservatively. I'm thinking you're one of those types that is hooked on strip clubs. In real life, no ass for you. Can't even talk to a girl. At the club they'll listen to your nonsense. They pat you on the head and act as if they're interested. You've got your favorite girls, too. You don't have much money, and she gets a percentage that if anyone else knew they'd let you know that you've got bigger issues than they can help you with.
 
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You don't and never did have a colleague that works at SA.
I'm assuming the wonderful source you recently came up on pm'd you and told you that he could tell you weren't like the other fish here and that as smart as you are you'd be able to tell he was a real deal savior and will open doors that you can appreciate and this is why he hit you up.
You don't need a source, in all likely hood, because it's gonna take a few months of socking away your allowance and lunch money to roll the dice again.
You say you've been out of the game and that you're a softy/fat ass. Bring this better than you attitude to the gym or anywhere you're gonna have issues. Bring the same attitude you have here with us to other parts of meso you'll also have issues.
I'm thinking you don't get out often. If and when you do, you're trooping down the sidewalk with your head down telling yourself "I'm almost home, I;m almost home." over and over again.
The net is like your fentanyl. It's your escape. You're whomever you want to be, even if it's just for 30 min. It get's you through. A much safer bet has you online between 8-12 hrs/ed, conservatively. I'm thinking you're one of those types that is hooked on strip clubs. In real life, no ass for you. Can't even talk to a girl. At the club they'll listen to your nonsense. They pat you on the head and act as if they're interested. You've got your favorite girls, too. You don't have much money, and she gets a percentage that if anyone else knew they'd let you know that you've got bigger issues than they can help you with.

Wow... You're wrong on like,every point. I just, I mean, you're so wrong in so many ways I'm not even sure where to begin. The "real deal savior" bit is funny, but then I've always thought you to be Stretch's biggest shill. Well, BiggerShill.

I get out all the time. I'm online occasionally throughout the day, and I VPN into my box from work to check things. Well, I suppose I am in front of a computer for about 8 or more hours a day if you include work and Netflix. I don't know about this escape from reality thing.

Not sure where you got the strip club idea. I hate strip clubs, and I generally despise the scumbag types that patronize them and the skanks that work there. Dude, you're so far off base it's comical. I don't care how you respond to this, I'm done talking with you- you're a fucking moron. Funny, but still a moron.
 
I believe the three points I've made in my earlier post to be valid, and that they warranted further examination.

And upon further examination, not one of the points you raised holds any merit.

I'll also admit that the troll in me did get a bit carried away (and secretly enjoyed continuing)

I can't say I haven't been entertained by all of this. I have.

And the real reason for your posts comes out. Troll.

I'm glad that there's been feedback on this, both negative and positive. Hopefully it will put a dent in the third argument I've made, the "500lb elephant in the room".

There is no 500lb elephant, you moron. I have garnered the reputation I have through carrying myself with integrity. Your assertion that I will somehow begin, at some unknown point in the future, to use this reputation to cheat members with impunity, is absolutely asinine.


And hey, if you guys still have problems for it, I have only one excuse:
I did it for the lulz.

Fucking douche' way to join the community. Character assassination for the sake of "lulz"...fucking child.

You don't and never did have a colleague that works at SA.
I'm assuming the wonderful source you recently came up on pm'd you and told you that he could tell you weren't like the other fish here and that as smart as you are you'd be able to tell he was a real deal savior and will open doors that you can appreciate and this is why he hit you up.
You don't need a source, in all likely hood, because it's gonna take a few months of socking away your allowance and lunch money to roll the dice again.
You say you've been out of the game and that you're a softy/fat ass. Bring this better than you attitude to the gym or anywhere you're gonna have issues. Bring the same attitude you have here with us to other parts of meso you'll also have issues.
I'm thinking you don't get out often. If and when you do, you're trooping down the sidewalk with your head down telling yourself "I'm almost home, I;m almost home." over and over again.
The net is like your fentanyl. It's your escape. You're whomever you want to be, even if it's just for 30 min. It get's you through. A much safer bet has you online between 8-12 hrs/ed, conservatively. I'm thinking you're one of those types that is hooked on strip clubs. In real life, no ass for you. Can't even talk to a girl. At the club they'll listen to your nonsense. They pat you on the head and act as if they're interested. You've got your favorite girls, too. You don't have much money, and she gets a percentage that if anyone else knew they'd let you know that you've got bigger issues than they can help you with.

OMFG.........ROTFLMAO


Wow... You're wrong on like,every point. I just, I mean, you're so wrong in so many ways I'm not even sure where to begin. The "real deal savior" bit is funny, but then I've always thought you to be Stretch's biggest shill. Well, BiggerShill.

LMFAO...God, you're such an idiot. It's so clear that you have only been here for 1-2 months, you have no idea who the people are that you're talking to. I will tell you this, if myself or Ben was standing in front of you....your fat ass wouldn't be calling him a moron or me a liar. And that's a fact.

Here's how I know you've only been here 2 months. Look at this post from Ben. This was 3 months ago....BitchBoy.

I'm gonna let a member that can communicate with you and the masses better respond to everything you've said here. It's clear to me you couldn't wait to bow out so you could let out some pent up aggression you've built up,
Your opinions could very well be "unbiased". But saying so means nothing. It is and should be assumed be all that your opinions are biased. How can you not see that? This place put food on your table and money in your pocket. You saying this isn't true reeks of lies and bullshit. Why would you rep if you weren't compensated? I'm clear on the fact you don't like me...i don't care. You fucked your name.

I don't know who you're talking about when you say your time as a rep compared to another member who repped for 38 months makes you better? I've run into this argument with my children...."Yes daddy, I did this, but sissy did this which is worse." Kids stuff.....but in the real world what you did by saying that is called "Dry snitching" If I need to give you the definition I will.

You may be more eloquent with your posts....but the truth is a pretty rough thing. Again, you may have the best of intentions, but by being a rep your vet status means nothing. You're dealing with peoples money.
If you want to tell me how wrong I am go right ahead. You made your decisions not ,me or anyone else. You asked for opinions back when you started this shit. You fucking arrogant motherfucker. It's clear your mind was made up and you were fucking with me and guys that are respected much more than I am. Keep up your fucking bullshit. You should apologize and start from scratch.
 
Heck maybe hes the 500 lb elephant un the room! Thru his own admission hes fat and soft and by his self indulgent rants im sure very lonley too!!
 
Okay I have been trying to figure out what this means sense I first say someone say it on Facebook, what in the hell does it mean??? Is it you only live once????

Your own lonely opinions... Lol dam it's to much to keep up with pretty soon they are gonna have to come out with a abbreviation dictionary...
 
Okay I have been trying to figure out what this means sense I first say someone say it on Facebook, what in the hell does it mean??? Is it you only live once????

I am fairly certain that "YOLO" is "Carpe Diem" for stupid people. - Jack Black.

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https://twitter.com/IamJackyBlack/status/199580678646538241
 
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Hold up.... I'm going to run a multiple linear regression model on this data

Fckit - you need to post more often, because every time you do, we are treated to that avatar again!
Only 20 posts thus far? Bro - stop being so greedy, hook some brothers up.
 
I got with Surabaya, and just to further support the fact that we do NOT push the red-tops, and to prove that we do inform everyone of the fact that we have had "mixed" laboratory results. READS FROM THE BOTTOM TO THE TOP

From:
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surabaya
To: "Catherine Lee"
Sent: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 16:14:37 -0700
Subject: Re: Order # 632
Here is the thing man. I have been using this stuff for a long time
and really it only works well when you optimize your other hormones as
well. Both your Testosterone and THyroid have to be supporting the
environment for the hgh. I should say IGF-1 because that is what it
converts to in the liver. So, taking hgh by itself is slightly
beneficial but not worth the cost if you know what I mean. Also,
when you take HGH it strips your body from T4. If you dont have
enough T4 then there is nothing to convert into active T3 hormone.
This is not a good environment for the HGH to do its "thing".

I have worked with Endocrinologist and doctors who specialize in
rejuvenation. I actually have the same knowledge that they do with
the exception of my personal experience which is more than they can
come close to. My advice to you is this. IF you take it... I would
not take with without a minimum of 250mg/testosterone per week and I
cannot remember my dose of T4 but there is plenty of information out
there on the dose. 100mcg minimum.. and plenty i think.. So, I will
be here for you to supply you with stuff that can help you but I want
to be honest about everything. As far as peptides go, I do not have
substantial experience to give you good advice...

D

----- Original Message -----
From: "Catherine Lee"
To:
Cc:
Sent:Sat, 21 Sep 2013 09:54:41 +0800
Subject:Re: Order # 632

Hi there,I am interested in the anti ageing benefits. I did try it
a few years ago, prescribed by an endocrinologist and didnt really
notice any difference. I am 46 and not over weight. Is it ideal
to use HGH and peptides? Thanks, Catherine
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surabaya
[1] wrote:
Hi Catherine,

We received your order for the Red Top HGH. I will have one to send
out to you next week but until that time I will hold off on accepting
your payment. I have personally traveled to meet the manufacturer on
this product. Even though I have had good personal results in the
gym testing the product in a lab has brought various results. After
some research it can be do to some responding to HGH therapy as some
people do not. Also, sometimes in the presence of high estrogen, HGH
is unable to convert to IGF-1. So an igf- test would show
insignificant results. I would presume HGH serum test is the best
unit of measure. Anyway, feel free to try it out. I run it at 5iu
per day with good results... If you do a serum test and show
insignificant results then I would be happy to give you credit to
purchase other products ok....

Regards,

Biopharma

The only thing changed in the above quoted text was the alteration of the "surabaya" email address. Everything else is EXACTLY as it was during their conversation, all of which occurred before he ever posted here. He was on a witch hunt, using different names to converse with 2 people trying to bait us into giving out conflicting information about our products. He did it for the "lulz". :rolleyes:
 
He was on a witch hunt, using different names to converse with 2 people trying to bait us into giving out conflicting information about our products. He did it for the "lulz". :rolleyes:

What? Um, no. You have your facts mixed up. I only ever placed one order with BL, on the 6th. I only ever used one email. I've only spoken to you twice that I know of by PM- a conversation about the Red Tops and a conversation about the mystery Tren. Orange oil. Whatever.

Similarly, I've only had a single conversation with Surabaya by email, as Auntie Witch. So... what the fuck are you talking about?
 
As I questioned earlier where do people like this Clown come from?

This is one of a few problems of having an truly open forum, IMO.

What would I change?

I suspect nothing since an alternative course or more restrictive "rules" would probably alter what Meso is all about, the exchange if ideas, information, opinions "good or bad" relative to AAS, PEDs and overall fitness in an uncensored fashion.

It is unfortunate clowns like this exist simply to rain on someone else's parade for the "lutz".

(Which is defined as a high end jump performed by skaters) lol.

Jim
 
Home brewing doesn't require one to be anything near a chemist. If you had a friend that worked for a major pharm company what good would that do you? He's going to smuggle the raw steroid powders home from work?
This thread and the posts that are being made are just plain silly. What does this kid have to offer to this forum. You showed up because you got beat by herc like many others did. How did this turn into a thread for you to talk about your fantasy's about being a big time drug manufacturer.
a.witch, you're a noob when it comes to AAS. Correct? If you weren't you wouldn't be ordering from herc or any of the untested sources here. This means you have no connections which means your supposes skills in the lab are useless.
You seem to think it necessary for some reason to separate yourself from the average member here at meso? It's gonna take time for that, son. Nobody knows you. You've got nothing useful to offer, or so you believe, because you're a noob to all this. There's no shame in that, kiddo. Let your guard down and behave yourself. We'll accept you for you.
You'll keep your façade going for a while. Check this out. You need us much more than we need you. If you fell off and never post again we'll forget you by lunch tomorrow. The part in this that has to do with your progression in the community is that you'll have to start all over again. I get that you enjoy popping up spouting some shit that stirs the pot some, but you're hurting your chances at getting to know folks that can help you achieve what you and most guys here want. Connections. You need people in our community to get connections. Your arrogance and silly stories will keep you right where you are. Fucking kids these days.

Perfectly said Ben!

Anyone who comes on here, stirs up shit, and then admits to stirring up the shit evenly partly because they like to see the looks on the faces of those who walked into the smell of their shit, immediately loses credibility! So going forward, witch, should we look at every post you make and ask ourselves if you are being sincere, or trying to get a reaction? This is where your little game of "doing it for lulz" comes back to bite you in the balls.
 
Perhaps u prefer this definition better from the "urban dictionary"
Lutz = can be used however the user is so inclined. (An interjection term)

I really liked this one

Those fucking LUTZES went to Smilesville and LUTZED about for hours from dusk to dawn and when another LUTZ inquired, the nature of their business they promptly replied for the LUTZ you Fucking LUTZ!

No shit look it up! But then again is anyone surprised? Consider the source fellas.
 
Perhaps u prefer this definition better from the "urban dictionary"
Lutz = can be used however the user is so inclined. (An interjection term)

I really liked this one

Those fucking LUTZES went to Smilesville and LUTZED about for hours from dusk to dawn and when another LUTZ inquired, the nature of their business they promptly replied for the LUTZ you Fucking LUTZ!

No shit look it up! But then again is anyone surprised? Consider the source fellas.

It's lulz. As in, "A corruption of LOL".
 
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