Lionheadlabs: Raw Source + Domestic shipping

It's like the avengers have assembled to vet me haha
Wrong franchise. Brutus is rocking the Heath ledger joker, I'm sporting a pothead batman. For some reason when I see @bolder avi I think of bane..... Sooooo. Yeah.

This wasn't an attempt to be a dick, just pointing out the obvious.

Happy scamming, <-----this was meant to be a dick though. Lmao
 
Yeah I already said I know a guy from here, but we're not affiliated in any professional capacity. I am not personally making profit on these prices. Just want to remind everyone that revenue =/= profit since that was a point of confusion for some. Business is sustainable with reduced pricing, I'm just not walking to the bank with a big smile. And thank you.
I know from discussions with someone what the prices are on raws, so either your factory isn’t giving you the same cost as others or you’re lying. Even at your 3 month prices, there is profit margin, again - unless your factory isn’t giving you the lowest price possible or even closer. And that’s definitely a possibility since you don’t have the buying capacity of Panda.
 
I know from discussions with someone what the prices are on raws, so either your factory isn’t giving you the same cost as others or you’re lying. Even at your 3 month prices, there is profit margin, again - unless your factory isn’t giving you the lowest price possible or even closer. And that’s definitely a possibility since you don’t have the buying capacity of Panda.

"you don’t have the buying capacity of Panda"

Correct, but also reshipper fees which others will normally charge you $250+ are included into the price I offer. But yeah, I obviously don't move product like Panda right now. I hope that satisfies your question.

I'm just not that greedy and I'm trying to compete on price.
 
Figured I'd work my way up to more 'premium' sites like that with time. I have no problem with this forum beyond the "vetting" being slightly annoying. There are legitimate concerns about me, but I feel things have devolved mainly into name calling and baseless accusations. I'm hopeful that will fade soon.

This “vetting” is an absolute joke. Too many people here use it as a way to get in with the “cool kids”. How many people here NEVER order raws but all of a sudden they’re experts on how a raw source should handle things ? There’s one way to vet* a source. Order for your fucking self and test afterwards. The back and forth bs that goes on for weeks is cringeworthy. I feel like I’m on Xbox live playing with 12 year olds.
 
@LionheadLabs here is what worries me about your whole operation: you are not in China with your own warehouse, overseeing operations. You are not Vanilla Ice who can say with confidence: “If there was a problem, yo i’ll solve it....”

You literally have ZERO skin in this game. What if your people decide they don’t want to tape up a box properly? What if the package hits the mail covered in powdered residue? Being a drop shipper or a reshipper instead of someone like Panda or Dragon gives them the opportunity to make sure everything is done right. You on the other hand are involved in no way whatsoever and that can become a huge liability. Low prices don’t mean a thing when you’re sitting in prison.

You have great prices, but you are a liability to Meso and not good for our community.

It's hard for me to respond to this considering Panda is a confirmed liar. And most of the other raw sources on this forum and elsewhere are working under Panda. I can't comment on how much of a role Panda actually plays, but just because he fled the US to live in China doesn't mean he's out there spearheading a factory.

If you're in the US/UK there's a lot less liability considering the reshipper situation. And that comes for free.
 
This “vetting” is an absolute joke. Too many people here use it as a way to get in with the “cool kids”. How many people here NEVER order raws but all of a sudden they’re experts on how a raw source should handle things ? There’s one way to get a source. Order for your fucking self and test afterwards. The back and forth bs that goes on for weeks is cringeworthy. I feel like I’m on Xbox live playing with 12 year olds.

Nah man I've been vetted by raw experts, business leaders, intellectuals, and philosophers. Have some respect because the ground you're stepping on is holy. :mad::mad::mad:

Edit: There have been genuine issues though, but like you said, it all comes down to ordering and testing, or waiting for someone else to do that.
 
It's hard for me to respond to this considering Panda is a confirmed liar. And most of the other raw sources on this forum and elsewhere are working under Panda. I can't comment on how much of a role Panda actually plays, but just because he fled the US to live in China doesn't mean he's out there spearheading a factory.

If you're in the US/UK there's a lot less liability considering the reshipper situation. And that comes for free.
No one said Panda has his own factory. He has his own warehouse, which means he can address issues that arise from shipping mishaps. But I get it actually... if anyone goes down from poor packaging, it will initially be the reshipper. Unless of course some poor packaging/lack of stealth makes it through customs and somehow gets snagged by the USPS.
 
No one said Panda has his own factory. He has his own warehouse, which means he can address issues that arise from shipping mishaps. But I get it actually... if anyone goes down from poor packaging, it will initially be the reshipper. Unless of course some poor packaging/lack of stealth makes it through customs and somehow gets snagged by the USPS.

Last I checked Panda doesn't stealth domestic product right? But yeah, the risk is on us not you. That's kind of a big, big deal.
 
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