Lionheadlabs: Raw Source + Domestic shipping

Haha yes, I was in utter confusion when I was being attacked for having a reshipper. Extra hands on my package??? Longer shipping???

If you don't want it included, ask. Same $50 shipping price though.

My only two problems I’ve had up to this point has been the sharing of some private info. A big no-no that has been the nail in quite a few coffins around here in the past.

And also the fact that there will be no inventory of raws that you have 100% confidence about to send out to your customers. You will be simply reshipping packs and have no idea what you are really sending. Anyone can be a reshipper. Just change the address and drop it back in the mail. If you want to sell good raws, buy your inventory, test all batches of every product, and then sell to the customer. When an issue comes up, who is responsible to settle this? The guy in China? Then he should be the source that’s taking the money and just pay you to reship for him
 
Fify..

Also who’s the source that lied on you or whatever?

Are you gonna address PPLs comment and analogy?

Gonna just go ahead and clarify that PPL told people I was 2dumb. He's either lying or mistaken because that's been proven to be patently false. He's welcome to make any manner of cute analogy he wants, but I don't appreciate the lying. I'm upset because unless he's simply mistaken, this is sabotage. This is why I am opposed to having anyone mistake us as being affiliated.
 
My only two problems I’ve had up to this point has been the sharing of some private info. A big no-no that has been the nail in quite a few coffins around here in the past.

And also the fact that there will be no inventory of raws that you have 100% confidence about to send out to your customers. You will be simply reshipping packs and have no idea what you are really sending. Anyone can be a reshipper. Just change the address and drop it back in the mail. If you want to sell good raws, buy your inventory, test all batches of every product, and then sell to the customer. When an issue comes up, who is responsible to settle this? The guy in China? Then he should be the source that’s taking the money and just pay you to reship for him

The factory tests regularly for quality assurance. If an issue comes up, you get a free reship. The whole point of me is that I get discounts that individuals would not be privy to because I bring in multiple clients. That's the arrangement. I'm actually passing those savings on to you guys instead of being greedy.
 
The factory tests regularly for quality assurance. If an issue comes up, you get a free reship. The whole point of me is that I get discounts that individuals would not be privy to because I bring in multiple clients. That's the arrangement. I'm actually passing those savings on to you guys instead of being greedy.
And if this is legitimate, you’re actually offering a really good service.

Edit: A HUGE service to home brewers, actually.
 
Gonna just go ahead and clarify that PPL told people I was 2dumb. He's either lying or mistaken because that's been proven to be patently false. He's welcome to make any manner of cute analogy he wants, but I don't appreciate the lying. I'm upset because unless he's simply mistaken, this is sabotage. This is why I am opposed to having anyone mistake us as being affiliated.
This is plausible just from what I know of ppl and his monkey bitch. I said I'm pulling for you for a reason. But questionable stuff needs to be addressed and reassured. Testing needs to happen. Transparency is key. And pics........
 
My only two problems I’ve had up to this point has been the sharing of some private info. A big no-no that has been the nail in quite a few coffins around here in the past.

And also the fact that there will be no inventory of raws that you have 100% confidence about to send out to your customers. You will be simply reshipping packs and have no idea what you are really sending. Anyone can be a reshipper. Just change the address and drop it back in the mail. If you want to sell good raws, buy your inventory, test all batches of every product, and then sell to the customer. When an issue comes up, who is responsible to settle this? The guy in China? Then he should be the source that’s taking the money and just pay you to reship for him

Forgot to respond to that first point. Since I actually genuinely am not from this forum and based on the way she was being referred to, I thought "Detective" Kim was conducting some public vetting process. She contacted me and put me up to her tests. She also got her friend to order from me. At the time I disclosed only that information because someone asked (a friend of kim ordered to test). I have full permission now to disclose who bought, why he bought, the fact he's gonna test, etc, etc but it's no longer necessary. He's a good guy and even helped clear up the 2dumb confusion.
 
Yeah, I really think so, and the only thing that matters is getting independent, verification of quality. Which I have no direct power over unless I give out freebies, which isn't even allowed.
Allowed by who, Meso? I could be wrong, but I think you’re allowed to give out samples. So if someone orders and pays for something, a free sample (for testing or whatever) can be sent as well. Just a thought.
 
Forgot to respond to that first point. Since I actually genuinely am not from this forum and based on the way she was being referred to, I thought "Detective" Kim was conducting some public vetting process. She contacted me and put me up to her tests. She also got her friend to order from me. At the time I disclosed only that information because someone asked (a friend of kim ordered to test). I have full permission now to disclose who bought, why he bought, the fact he's gonna test, etc, etc but it's no longer necessary. He's a good guy and even helped clear up the 2dumb confusion.
Eh, I honestly didn’t think you mentioning it in the first place was wrong. It’s not like you mentioned his name or shared the PM.
 
This is plausible just from what I know of ppl and his monkey bitch. I said I'm pulling for you for a reason. But questionable stuff needs to be addressed and reassured. Testing needs to happen. Transparency is key. And pics........

I posted like 50 meso time stamped wrinkly paper pics the other day, did you happen to see those?

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Yes, source sending out free samples just to send them is frowned upon, but let’s be real - what’s one gram going to be good for, except testing? I see sources sending freebies all the time with paid orders.

With paid orders is one thing, but sending FREE freebies to credible forum members for testing is apparently bad. I don't see how, but I'm not trying to get further molested on this forum.
 
Where did ppl say this guy was 2d2p?

I believe a number of people posted in this thread saying PPL outed me to them as being his underling (specifically 2dum). Other people who I will not name have spoken to me privately about the matter as well.

This is veritably a lie.
 
This is plausible just from what I know of ppl and his monkey bitch. I said I'm pulling for you for a reason. But questionable stuff needs to be addressed and reassured. Testing needs to happen. Transparency is key. And pics........

It's much more than just Monkey. He even alluded to that himself recently in his thread with a little analogy about shampoo brands. And that's totally fine, I just don't want to be part of his lie. I'm not asking for much and I have no animosity towards a guy I don't know. It's just business for him.
 
With paid orders is one thing, but sending FREE freebies to credible forum members for testing is apparently bad. I don't see how, but I'm not trying to get further molested on this forum.
Yeah, and that’s all I was implying - a free sample with a paid order.
 
The factory tests regularly for quality assurance. If an issue comes up, you get a free reship. The whole point of me is that I get discounts that individuals would not be privy to because I bring in multiple clients. That's the arrangement. I'm actually passing those savings on to you guys instead of being greedy.

To be fair, the only reason I personally question the reliability of your operation is because I don't know how you linked up with the factory. Is that any of my business? Somewhat. Your relationship with the raws provider is important, and customer satisfaction will depend on that. How can you guarantee that shipments are sent correctly, there will be no custom fuck ups (I mean you can't guarantee that, but what if packages keep getting seized), are lab tests consistent and 100% legit, and that products don't come laced with some potentially dangerous filler (which has happened - not with AAS but other powders).
Like I said, the only concern is how you got in touch with the factory, if you are living in the states without any "professional" affiliation with any of the Chinese sources, an ability to speak Mandarin, basically the possibliity of getting a raws factory to work with you is next to 0%.
Even in China, a foreigner that speaks Chinese finds it hard to get a raws factory to work with them. There needs to be connections.

All other sources that sell raws are either sub sources, or they are from China - they know the factory, address and they are able to sue.
You, on the other hand have no leverage over your factory.

I understand it would not be smart to disclose how you got in touch with your factory IF you did just get lucky - however this is the issue which keeps popping up in my head, luck is too much of a small factor. Then again, it might not be an issue and shit will be outstanding. Anyways, I hope you understand my point.
 
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