Lionheadlabs: Raw Source + Domestic shipping

Do you have testing on any of your peptides? I like peptides and your introductory pricing is really good. But that's its downside as well. Are they shipped in protective sleeves or are they dumped in an envelope to clank around with each other? I literally received about $300 worth of peptides like this before and only a number on the bottom. Pics......
 
To be fair, the only reason I personally question the reliability of your operation is because I don't know how you linked up with the factory. Is that any of my business? Somewhat. Your relationship with the raws provider is important, and customer satisfaction will depend on that. How can you guarantee that shipments are sent correctly, there will be no custom fuck ups (I mean you can't guarantee that, but what if packages keep getting seized), are lab tests consistent and 100% legit, and that products don't come laced with some potentially dangerous filler (which has happened - not with AAS but other powders).
Like I said, the only concern is how you got in touch with the factory, if you are living in the states without any "professional" affiliation with any of the Chinese sources, an ability to speak Mandarin, basically the possibliity of getting a raws factory to work with you is next to 0%.
Even in China, a foreigner that speaks Chinese finds it hard to get a raws factory to work with them. There needs to be connections.

All other sources that sell raws are either sub sources, or they are from China - they know the factory, address and they are able to sue.
You, on the other hand have no leverage over your factory.

I understand it would not be smart to disclose how you got in touch with your factory IF you did just get lucky - however this is the issue which keeps popping up in my head, luck is too much of a small factor. Then again, it might not be an issue and shit will be outstanding. Anyways, I hope you understand my point.

I understand, it's just perhaps a little short sighted to think you can only do Chinese business as a China man. Everyone is just trying to make money after all. The great thing is if you're in the US/UK custom fuck ups are not on your back, and that's a HUGE deal because packages do get seized regardless of how well you stealth them. If they decide to pull your package aside, it's already over stealth or not.

The greatest leverage that all businesses bend to is the dollar. What if the shipping is problematic, what if the quality is bad, etc, etc, Then you're bankrupt and are perhaps even facing legal trouble. It's in everyone's best interest that things go smoothly.
 
Do you have testing on any of your peptides? I like peptides and your introductory pricing is really good. But that's its downside as well. Are they shipped in protective sleeves or are they dumped in an envelope to clank around with each other? I literally received about $300 worth of peptides like this before and only a number on the bottom. Pics......

Independent testing from forum members coming soon™

Any other testing pictures I send you could be fake, and I've already posted them. What kinda pictures are you talking about. Posting some more.



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I understand, it's just perhaps a little short sighted to think you can only do Chinese business as a China man. Everyone is just trying to make money after all. The great thing is if you're in the US/UK custom fuck ups are not on your back, and that's a HUGE deal because packages do get seized regardless of how well you stealth them. If they decide to pull your package aside, it's already over stealth or not.

The greatest leverage that all businesses bend to is the dollar. What if the shipping is problematic, what if the quality is bad, etc, etc, Then you're bankrupt and are perhaps even facing legal trouble. It's in everyone's best interest that things go smoothly.

I actually appreciate this response, however I disagree with your first sentence. In this particular market, it is almost quite impossible without a connection - and you were adamant in saying that you had no connections to anybody. I'm not going to get into this very deeply because I am not a raws provider - it's not my place to give details on this market; I just have very good insight on how this works because I personally know owners of raws factories, and Chinese sources.

Otherwise, I can't disagree with the fact that "all businesses bend to the dollar". It's just highly unlikely you got into this without knowing someone worth noting.

Anyways, I just saw that you have 2 orders pending. Good on you, I hope it all works out and you end up being a good, reliable source. I think that's enough from me, hope you get your shit right.
 
Independent testing from forum members coming soon™

Any other testing pictures I send you could be fake, and I've already posted them. What kinda pictures are you talking about. Posting some more.



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Pics of peptide stock, where they're kept, anything and everything. Of course meso written on crumpled paper, and on some tiddies.... On yours for all I care at this point. Lmao

Didn't answer how they're shipped btw. That was important to me. They break, im waiting 3 weeks for replacements. Do you offer replacements for broken peptides?
 
Pics of peptide stock, where they're kept, anything and everything. Of course meso written on crumpled paper, and on some tiddies.... On yours for all I care at this point. Lmao

Didn't answer how they're shipped btw. That was important to me. They break, im waiting 3 weeks for replacements. Do you offer replacements for broken peptides?

I'll verify the specifics for you. Free reships for any issue like that. Again like I said previously, it benefits everyone financially for everything to be kosher. ;)

I'd recommend you record yourself opening the package if you're worried about things coming through broken. I'm sorry for you if you've dealt with that in the past, must suck.
 
I actually appreciate this response, however I disagree with your first sentence. In this particular market, it is almost quite impossible without a connection - and you were adamant in saying that you had no connections to anybody. I'm not going to get into this very deeply because I am not a raws provider - it's not my place to give details on this market; I just have very good insight on how this works because I personally know owners of raws factories, and Chinese sources.

Otherwise, I can't disagree with the fact that "all businesses bend to the dollar". It's just highly unlikely you got into this without knowing someone worth noting.

Anyways, I just saw that you have 2 orders pending. Good on you, I hope it all works out and you end up being a good, reliable source. I think that's enough from me, hope you get your shit right.

I mean I know a guy. So I have a connection I guess, but we're not doing business together. Thanks for the vote of confidence. :)
 
This “vetting” is an absolute joke. Too many people here use it as a way to get in with the “cool kids”. How many people here NEVER order raws but all of a sudden they’re experts on how a raw source should handle things ? There’s one way to vet* a source. Order for your fucking self and test afterwards. The back and forth bs that goes on for weeks is cringeworthy. I feel like I’m on Xbox live playing with 12 year olds.

People asking questions is bad, so we should just throw money at him and hope we don't get taken for a ride?

Sounds legit. Let us know when your pack touches down.
 
Eh, I honestly didn’t think you mentioning it in the first place was wrong. It’s not like you mentioned his name or shared the PM.

My problem with it was that I knew it came from a pm and he outed the person sending the pm. That’s my hangup. Intentional? Probly not. But it was really dumb. Doesn't put a good light on how he may take care of the rest of the sensitive info he is trying to get us to trust him with.

We already know that the customer he referred to tests everything he touches lol.
 
My problem with it was that I knew it came from a pm and he outed the person sending the pm. That’s my hangup. Intentional? Probly not. But it was really dumb. Doesn't put a good light on how he may take care of the rest of the sensitive info he is trying to get us to trust him with.

We already know that the customer he referred to tests everything he touches lol.

Your sensitive information only flows through proton or wickr. If you don't trust me to delete emails, then just hit me up on wickr. The Kim thing was because I thought it was a public vetting process, which in a way it kinda is now. I don't think I exposed sensitive information.
 
Seems he was a friend of Kim (guy who bought), so you can bug her if you want.

@HIGHRISK he did great with the customer info by not revealing a name. He revealed the info about who sent it. I’ve sent a few pm’s that I would really not like some other people to know that I sent. So does he have a right to give a vague description of what I put in my pm and then publicly display that I sent this info to him? In my mind no. I would hope you would feel this way also about the info in your pm’s.

Edit: And like I said above, I don’t think it was done intentionally but it was still dumb.
 
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