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[Anabolicchocoholic]

You should definitely try powerlifting. We need more female powerlifters around here. Whenever you're ready just come on down to the powerlifting section. Your bench is actually pretty good, by the way.

thank you def will!!!!

 

[Anabolicchocoholic]

These are how the clen and var look. Clen are the white ones, var is the peach color.

No nausea or anything like that from either, I started 20mg of the Clen today (instead of the ec stack). My heart rate beats a little faster and hands a bit shakey, especially when I was working out at the gym. Less appetite suppression as well, if anything I feel hungrier lol. I like the clen more than ec stack, but wish it had the appetite suppression effect as well.

The var is difficult to split sometimes, the clen cuts evenly though.
I always hide my pills in this case and/or my eyeglasses case.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I had my ex on that same var and even with the pill cutter I still had a little trouble with them. I put them in a contact case for her. One side AM dose and the other PM, lol.

 

[Anabolicchocoholic]

I had my ex on that same var and even with the pill cutter I still had a little trouble with them. I put them in a contact case for her. One side AM dose and the other PM, lol.

That's a good idea to use the contact lens case, I have some extras so will use them on the go. If you don't mind me asking, how many mg was she using and how did she like the cycle?

I'm at a deficit right now @ about 1400 cals, 5'6'' in height, I was planning on using var only really to help retain muscle, but if I ever bulk with it I'd probably do 10mg at least.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

That's a good idea to use the contact lens case, I have some extras so will use them on the go. If you don't mind me asking, how many mg was she using and how did she like the cycle?

I'm at a deficit right now @ about 1400 cals, 5'6'' in height, I was planning on using var only really to help retain muscle, but if I ever bulk with it I'd probably do 10mg at least.

If I recall correctly it was the following:

Week one: 5mg var and 2iu HGH ED
Week two: 10mg var and 2iu HGH ED
Week three: 15mg var and 2iu HGH ED
Week four: 15mg var and 2iu HGH ED
Week five: 15mg var and 3iu HGH ED
Week six: 15mg var and 3iu HGH ED
Week seven: 10mg var and 2iu HGH ED
Week eight: 5mg var and 2iu HGH ED

At that time she was 39 years old, 6' and 180lbs. While on the cycle she got up around 190lbs even with a fairly strict diet and within a couple weeks after coming off she was down to 178lbs with much improved body composition. 3iu of HGH made her ankles swell up pretty bad and that's why we dropped back to 2iu. She continued running the HGH for a month or so and then we broke up.

She had great strength gains and improvements in body composition during the cycle and the month or so on HGH alone. I planned her diet, prepped all her food and set up her entire routine for the duration. She was very happy with it. She liked the effect of HGH on her skin and hair, too.

 

[Anabolicchocoholic]

If I recall correctly it was the following:

Week one: 5mg var and 2iu HGH ED
Week two: 10mg var and 2iu HGH ED
Week three: 15mg var and 2iu HGH ED
Week four: 15mg var and 2iu HGH ED
Week five: 15mg var and 3iu HGH ED
Week six: 15mg var and 3iu HGH ED
Week seven: 10mg var and 2iu HGH ED
Week eight: 5mg var and 2iu HGH ED

At that time she was 39 years old, 6' and 180lbs. While on the cycle she got up around 190lbs even with a fairly strict diet and within a couple weeks after coming off she was down to 178lbs with much improved body composition. 3iu of HGH made her ankles swell up pretty bad and that's why we dropped back to 2iu. She continued running the HGH for a month or so and then we broke up.

She had great strength gains and improvements in body composition during the cycle and the month or so on HGH alone. I planned her diet, prepped all her food and set up her entire routine for the duration. She was very happy with it. She liked the effect of HGH on her skin and hair, too.

Thank you for sharing, glad it worked well for her Thats awesome you were able to help her out, lucky gal. And jealous of her height, wish I had a bit more height on me lol.

Def been looking into hgh recently, I know I won't be able to add it for a while though just because I'll be going off to school in a few months. But maybe In between. The only part that scares me is the risk of cartilage growing (nose and ears) and organ growth. Even at a low dose 1-2 iu.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Thank you for sharing, glad it worked well for her Thats awesome you were able to help her out, lucky gal. And jealous of her height, wish I had a bit more height on me lol.

Def been looking into hgh recently, I know I won't be able to add it for a while though just because I'll be going off to school in a few months. But maybe In between. The only part that scares me is the risk of cartilage growing (nose and ears) and organ growth. Even at a low dose 1-2 iu.

You're welcome, but screw her, lol. She left me for another woman and stole my cat months before our wedding. She was my best gym partner, nobody else ever managed to hang with me that long. I'm not sure she even lifts anymore though.

You might be a little young for HGH. I mean it's your call, but supposedly you wouldn't get as much out of it as someone older. If you do just do your research and do it right.

 

[Anabolicchocoholic]

You're welcome, but screw her, lol. She left me for another woman and stole my cat months before our wedding. She was my best gym partner, nobody else ever managed to hang with me that long. I'm not sure she even lifts anymore though.

You might be a little young for HGH. I mean it's your call, but supposedly you wouldn't get as much out of it as someone older. If you do just do your research and do it right.

Wow that's horrible. Sorry that happened I didn't even realize I was bringing it up again. I don't have a cat, but I'd never forgive someone who stole my dog.

I've always wished I had a gym partner. I have a gf I sometimes workout with as in once a month lol. The idea of someone being able to spot me and help me out with my lifts sounds really awesome. Weird but the only guys I ever am attracted to are usually ones I meet at the gym too. I wouldn't ever approach anyone though bc I don't want to have to face seeing that person everyday then on, and also a lot of the older guys know me pretty well from our older gym. When someone talks to me they all make a huge deal about it lol.

That's true on the hgh, maybe just got to wait till I get some more wrinkles to get my money's worth haha

 

[Anabolicchocoholic]

So this is split I decided on. Will happily take any critique

Upper Power: Barbell bench 3-4x3-5, Incline dumbbell bench 3-4x6-10, Bent over row 3-4x3-5, Lat pull down 3-4x6-10, Overhead press 2-3x5-8, Barbell curl 2-3x6-10, Skullcrusher 2-3x6-10
Lower Power: Low bar back squat 3-4x3-5, Sumo deadlift 3-4x3-5, Leg press 3-5x10-15, Leg curl 3-4x6-10, Glute bridges/Hip thrust 4x6-10
Rest: Cardio/abs
Upper Hypertrophy: All 3-4 sets x 8-12 reps, Incline bench, Flat dumbbell flye, Seated cable row, One arm dumbbell row, Dumbbell lateral raise, Seated incline dumbbell curls, Cable tricep extensions
Lower Hypertropy: 3-4 sets x 8-12 reps for Front squat, Barbell lunge, Glute bridge/Hip thrusts, Stiff legged deadlift. 3-4 sets x 10-15 reps for Leg extensions and Leg Curls
Rest: Cardio/abs
Repeat!

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Wow that's horrible. Sorry that happened I didn't even realize I was bringing it up again. I don't have a cat, but I'd never forgive someone who stole my dog.

I've always wished I had a gym partner. I have a gf I sometimes workout with as in once a month lol. The idea of someone being able to spot me and help me out with my lifts sounds really awesome. Weird but the only guys I ever am attracted to are usually ones I meet at the gym too. I wouldn't ever approach anyone though bc I don't want to have to face seeing that person everyday then on, and also a lot of the older guys know me pretty well from our older gym. When someone talks to me they all make a huge deal about it lol.

That's true on the hgh, maybe just got to wait till I get some more wrinkles to get my money's worth haha

It's all good, I can laugh about it now.

Yeah, besides her I've never had one last more than a few months. A friend of mine just started lifting with me over the weekend, so he'll either break or become a monster. Time will tell.

Sounds like my gym, lol. The older guys are always talking to the younger women. There's one couple that lifts there that used to deadlift face to face. They were really cool people, but that was a little much.

Would definitely prefer dating a fellow lifter, not one from my own gym for reasons like you said. Hard for non lifters to deal with the training and eating. Creates friction for sure.

So this is split I decided on. Will happily take any critique

Upper Power: Barbell bench 3-4x3-5, Incline dumbbell bench 3-4x6-10, Bent over row 3-4x3-5, Lat pull down 3-4x6-10, Overhead press 2-3x5-8, Barbell curl 2-3x6-10, Skullcrusher 2-3x6-10
Lower Power: Low bar back squat 3-4x3-5, Sumo deadlift 3-4x3-5, Leg press 3-5x10-15, Leg curl 3-4x6-10, Glute bridges/Hip thrust 4x6-10
Rest: Cardio/abs
Upper Hypertrophy: All 3-4 sets x 8-12 reps, Incline bench, Flat dumbbell flye, Seated cable row, One arm dumbbell row, Dumbbell lateral raise, Seated incline dumbbell curls, Cable tricep extensions
Lower Hypertropy: 3-4 sets x 8-12 reps for Front squat, Barbell lunge, Glute bridge/Hip thrusts, Stiff legged deadlift. 3-4 sets x 10-15 reps for Leg extensions and Leg Curls
Rest: Cardio/abs
Repeat!

I'd drop incline bench from upper power. No need for three heavy presses in one day in my opinion for this type of split. Either that or move overhead press to upper hypertrophy and do it after rows. I'd also alternate pushes and pulls so you're more fresh going into each one. Like bench first, then row, then overhead press, then lat pull down. I'd drop one of the rows from upper hypertrophy as two in a row seems redundant. On lower power day I'd do hip thrust before leg press. I'd put stiff legged deadlift right after front squat on lower hypertrophy, too. Just my opinions here. Overall good setup though.

 

[Anabolicchocoholic]

It's all good, I can laugh about it now.

Yeah, besides her I've never had one last more than a few months. A friend of mine just started lifting with me over the weekend, so he'll either break or become a monster. Time will tell.

Sounds like my gym, lol. The older guys are always talking to the younger women. There's one couple that lifts there that used to deadlift face to face. They were really cool people, but that was a little much.

Would definitely prefer dating a fellow lifter, not one from my own gym for reasons like you said. Hard for non lifters to deal with the training and eating. Creates friction for sure.

I'd drop incline bench from upper power. No need for three heavy presses in one day in my opinion for this type of split. Either that or move overhead press to upper hypertrophy and do it after rows. I'd also alternate pushes and pulls so you're more fresh going into each one. Like bench first, then row, then overhead press, then lat pull down. I'd drop one of the rows from upper hypertrophy as two in a row seems redundant. On lower power day I'd do hip thrust before leg press. I'd put stiff legged deadlift right after front squat on lower hypertrophy, too. Just my opinions here. Overall good setup though.

I feel you, I just don't really even date or anything anymore. I just study and go to the gym, pretty boring tbh. Agreed that it helps to have someone with similar goals/mindset though. Someone who doesn't mind coming over to help you meal prep, foam roll, and sip on bcaa cocktails.

Last ex (3 yrs ago just wow am I getting older lol) always loved to go out to eat, and it was hard bc I didn't want to be rude and refuse. I'd always get salads and whatever I could find with a lot of protein. He also didn't lift...was a runner...and didn't like me going to the gym lol.

My gym in the morning is like a circus lol. One of the guys there shrieks reallll loud and screams, another guy always does squats like everyday almost but only goes about 2-3 inches down, not even close to parallel, a skinny 16 year old kid who comes in super early (only see him when I go super early like 2:30/3am) who works out shirtless and spends half his time taking mirror selfies, this kid who loads the bar up with 8 45lb plates only to do calve raises and shrugs, another guy who only works out his triceps spends the rest of the time talking to chicks on treadmills and ellipticals. Only one older guy in the morning I've seen who is maybe on the juice He has a wife though (or maybe his daughter, honestly can't tell lol), the others usually come workout later in the day or in the evening. I could go on and on haha, maybe I just have no life and spend too much time there idk. I usually am so in the zone too, don't know how I even notice all this.

Thanks for the tips, revised as you recommended
Upper Power: Barbell bench 3-4x3-5, Bent over row 3-4x3-5, Overhead press 2-3x5-8, Lat pull down 3-4x6-10, Barbell curl 2-3x6-10, Skullcrusher 2-3x6-10
Lower Power: Low bar back squat 3-4x3-5, Glute bridges/Hip thrust 4x6-10, Sumo deadlift 3-4x3-5, Leg press 3-5x10-15, Leg curl 3-4x6-10
Rest: Cardio/abs
Upper Hypertrophy: All 3-4 sets x 8-12 reps, Incline bench, One arm dumbbell row, Flat dumbbell flye, Dumbbell lateral raise, Seated incline dumbbell curls, Cable tricep extensions
Lower Hypertropy: 3-4 sets x 8-12 reps for Front squat, Stiff legged deadlift, Barbell lunge, Glute bridge/Hip thrusts. 3-4 sets x 10-15 reps for Leg extensions and Leg Curls
Rest: Cardio/abs
Repeat!

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I feel you, I just don't really even date or anything anymore. I just study and go to the gym, pretty boring tbh. Agreed that it helps to have someone with similar goals/mindset though. Someone who doesn't mind coming over to help you meal prep, foam roll, and sip on bcaa cocktails.

Last ex (3 yrs ago just wow am I getting older lol) always loved to go out to eat, and it was hard bc I didn't want to be rude and refuse. I'd always get salads and whatever I could find with a lot of protein. He also didn't lift...was a runner...and didn't like me going to the gym lol.

My gym in the morning is like a circus lol. One of the guys there shrieks reallll loud and screams, another guy always does squats like everyday almost but only goes about 2-3 inches down, not even close to parallel, a skinny 16 year old kid who comes in super early (only see him when I go super early like 2:30/3am) who works out shirtless and spends half his time taking mirror selfies, this kid who loads the bar up with 8 45lb plates only to do calve raises and shrugs, another guy who only works out his triceps spends the rest of the time talking to chicks on treadmills and ellipticals. Only one older guy in the morning I've seen who is maybe on the juice He has a wife though (or maybe his daughter, honestly can't tell lol), the others usually come workout later in the day or in the evening. I could go on and on haha, maybe I just have no life and spend too much time there idk. I usually am so in the zone too, don't know how I even notice all this.

Thanks for the tips, revised as you recommended
Upper Power: Barbell bench 3-4x3-5, Bent over row 3-4x3-5, Overhead press 2-3x5-8, Lat pull down 3-4x6-10, Barbell curl 2-3x6-10, Skullcrusher 2-3x6-10
Lower Power: Low bar back squat 3-4x3-5, Glute bridges/Hip thrust 4x6-10, Sumo deadlift 3-4x3-5, Leg press 3-5x10-15, Leg curl 3-4x6-10
Rest: Cardio/abs
Upper Hypertrophy: All 3-4 sets x 8-12 reps, Incline bench, One arm dumbbell row, Flat dumbbell flye, Dumbbell lateral raise, Seated incline dumbbell curls, Cable tricep extensions
Lower Hypertropy: 3-4 sets x 8-12 reps for Front squat, Stiff legged deadlift, Barbell lunge, Glute bridge/Hip thrusts. 3-4 sets x 10-15 reps for Leg extensions and Leg Curls
Rest: Cardio/abs
Repeat!

Getting older at 23? You're funny, although I feel the same at 33 as I did at 23 except now I can't stay up late without feeling wrecked, lol.

I think I'm taking the year off dating myself. Two bad experiences in a row. Being single I can go to bed early, be super strict with diet and go to the gym on my off days for cardio and stretching. Work, gym, food prep, sleep, repeat with posting on Meso here and there throughout the day. Pretty boring, but I lived crazy in my teens and 20's.

Oh yeah, last gf didn't lift and was an alcoholic. Actually had that audacity to say the gym wasn't a hobby, but drinking beer was. We were constantly fighting about our lifestyles.

Anyway, sumo deadlift before hip thrusts, but everything else looks good to me. Feel free to tag me anytime if you think I can help with anything.

 

[Wendylifts]

You should definitely try powerlifting. We need more female powerlifters around here. Whenever you're ready just come on down to the powerlifting section. Your bench is actually pretty good, by the way.

Yes we need more female powerlifters! I'm one! And actually powerlifting has done much more for my physique than any hypertrophy program ever did. I've had great success with layne nortons powerbuilding template.

Welcome to meso!

 

[Anabolicchocoholic]

Getting older at 23? You're funny, although I feel the same at 33 as I did at 23 except now I can't stay up late without feeling wrecked, lol.

I think I'm taking the year off dating myself. Two bad experiences in a row. Being single I can go to bed early, be super strict with diet and go to the gym on my off days for cardio and stretching. Work, gym, food prep, sleep, repeat with posting on Meso here and there throughout the day. Pretty boring, but I lived crazy in my teens and 20's.

Oh yeah, last gf didn't lift and was an alcoholic. Actually had that audacity to say the gym wasn't a hobby, but drinking beer was. We were constantly fighting about our lifestyles.

Anyway, sumo deadlift before hip thrusts, but everything else looks good to me. Feel free to tag me anytime if you think I can help with anything.

Same, I went through a phase when I was in high school probably with drinking etc but I don't even drink anymore really knowing how it affects fat loss. I wish I could just enjoy a drink here and there though. Part of the crew sleeping before 8/9pm usually lol, I hate staying up late too.

Break might be just what you need

Yes we need more female powerlifters! I'm one! And actually powerlifting has done much more for my physique than any hypertrophy program ever did. I've had great success with layne nortons powerbuilding template.

Welcome to meso!

Thank you so much!! I look up to a lot of you badass powerlifters, can't wait to get started myself someday

 

[Anabolicchocoholic]

Day 1 (new split)
April/3/17
Protein= 160g
10mg var, 20mg clen
Workout=
Upper Power:
Barbell bench 3-4x3-5 [115]
Bent over row 3-4x3-5 [95]
Overhead press 2-3x5-8 [65, 65, 75]
Lat pull down 3-4x6-10 [70]
Barbell curl 2-3x6-10 [40, 45, 45]
Skullcrusher 2-3x6-10 [30]
& 15 min LISS cardio

Notes: in terms of diet rn I'm just doing 25g preworkout carbs and 75g postworkout, total protein is 160g (not including veggies for carbs or protein), and I don't add fat aside from the 6g fish oils. Just ends up easier to count to do only the essentials. I hope these cals aren't too much, it's about 1400.

At the gym today I warmed up with the bar then went to go find 10 lb plates to do my second warm up set with and an old guy stole my bench and started doing wrist curls with it lol. Then I walked behind him to sort of show my phone and keys were there, he ignored me, and then I just mentioned I was using it but it's ok if he wants to use it I'll just do something else. But he was so fucking rude about it like "yeah I didn't see any weights so I didn't think anyone was using it" and he glared at me and I was trying so hard to stay calm lol because yeah I can see how he would have thought it's not being used. I just felt like a jerk, everyone was staring lol. But whatever. I always try to share and be kind and always put my plates away, if someone is waiting for me to finish I always ask if they're waiting to use and let them work in but I just can't believe how bad people can be with gym etiquette sometimes. Especially the guys that leave there plates on and just leave for after supersetting like 3 benches. Having worked in a different gym (I used to close late night) cleaning up after people like that sucked. I get people pay for their memberships but that doesn't mean you just do whatever you want. Anyways rant over lol, I got sidetracked lmao.

 

[Iron Vett]

Day 1 (new split)
April/3/17
Protein= 160g
10mg var, 20mg clen
Workout=
Upper Power:
Barbell bench 3-4x3-5 [115]
Bent over row 3-4x3-5 [95]
Overhead press 2-3x5-8 [65, 65, 75]
Lat pull down 3-4x6-10 [70]
Barbell curl 2-3x6-10 [40, 45, 45]
Skullcrusher 2-3x6-10 [30]
& 15 min LISS cardio

Notes: in terms of diet rn I'm just doing 25g preworkout carbs and 75g postworkout, total protein is 160g (not including veggies for carbs or protein), and I don't add fat aside from the 6g fish oils. Just ends up easier to count to do only the essentials. I hope these cals aren't too much, it's about 1400.

At the gym today I warmed up with the bar then went to go find 10 lb plates to do my second warm up set with and an old guy stole my bench and started doing wrist curls with it lol. Then I walked behind him to sort of show my phone and keys were there, he ignored me, and then I just mentioned I was using it but it's ok if he wants to use it I'll just do something else. But he was so fucking rude about it like "yeah I didn't see any weights so I didn't think anyone was using it" and he glared at me and I was trying so hard to stay calm lol because yeah I can see how he would have thought it's not being used. I just felt like a jerk, everyone was staring lol. But whatever. I always try to share and be kind and always put my plates away, if someone is waiting for me to finish I always ask if they're waiting to use and let them work in but I just can't believe how bad people can be with gym etiquette sometimes. Especially the guys that leave there plates on and just leave for after supersetting like 3 benches. Having worked in a different gym (I used to close late night) cleaning up after people like that sucked. I get people pay for their memberships but that doesn't mean you just do whatever you want. Anyways rant over lol, I got sidetracked lmao.

The patrons at your gym suck!! I have never experienced that kind of rudeness in a gym. Our gym will charge $25 penalty to anyone who leaves their weights or comes in with dirty shoes and walks around leaving mud behind them. They just check the cameras to see who did it. I personally like the policy since it keeps all of the assholes in line lol

 

[Anabolicchocoholic]

The patrons at your gym suck!! I have never experienced that kind of rudeness in a gym. Our gym will charge $25 penalty to anyone who leaves their weights or comes in with dirty shoes and walks around leaving mud behind them. They just check the cameras to see who did it. I personally like the policy since it keeps all of the assholes in line lol

No reason for anyone to be rude to you tho, I'm sure you're bigger than all the guys there lol, can outlift any of one them haha.

All gyms need that policy!!!

 

[Anabolicchocoholic]

Idk If I should start a separate thread for this just to help aware people about this, but acne reallly really sucks!!

I never used to have it until about 3-4 hours ago when I had started to eat more things with wheat in them and processed foods basically. Even before that I used to eat Greek yogurt almost everyday so it wasn't really dairy alone or whey protein or anything like that.

But two weeks ago when I received the var and clen and had decided on the cycle I had researched quite a bit on the acne side effect a lot of people get from cycling, especially if they're already prone to it.

I was pretty determined to not let it get worse and wanted to get rid of it completely TBH. I've already tried various medicines (antibiotics) and topical creams and none really made a difference. It is extremely exhausting washing your face three times a day with an acne cleaner and moisturizing every time as well, I was sick of it and it didn't even help.

For me, they're small pimples mostly on my forehead and some on my cheeks near my nose.

But anyway, to the point I was trying to make. I started adding 1 tsp of turmeric powder into my whey protein post workout. It is antibacterial/antimicrobial. Also helps muscle recovery (quite a few studies done on it). Also take one digestive enzymes capsule with this meal, then at night have a probiotic capsule and In the middle of the day have a shot of apple cider vinegar in my water. You can also use turmeric topically on the face but I figured the muscle recovery part is nice too if I just drink it. My acne has gone down so much, my face is almost clear. It's crazy. Also reallly soft and the color is changed, skin glows almost. Idk of its just in my head but I'll keep using it and see If it goes away entirely. Only been 2 weeks so far.

 

[Anabolicchocoholic]

*3-4 years sorry, not hours lol. My phone won't let me edit sometimes.

 

[Masse]

Do you will share progress pictures?