Math Quiz for Discussion. Ya might learn something useful.

[Gramps]

The experts will likely know the answer right off the bat. You keep quiet for the moment and let some greenhorns take a shot at this!

My numbers are more precise than listed here. I'm rounding for simplicity. I brewed up a batch of Test C 100mg/ml mixed with Nandrolone Decanoate 100mg/ml for a solution of 200mg/ml. This is for TRT along with joint relief. I weekly take 120-140mg of test C so out of this mix, I'd draw about 1.2ml. Now I'm a proven 8x person. For 100mg of test, I can expect 7-800ng/dl on the test. When I drew blood, I was amazed to see 1600+! I thought it was amazing for a moment, then I did the math. I don't have labmax, so I relied on melting points of the Test C which was a bit over 200F, and the deca which was about 95F. Again, the answer to the high T reading is obvious to many, let's hear some of you newbies chime in with what is wrong with this picture!

 

[Burrr]

Was your blood test lc ms?

 

[Gramps]

Yep. Numbers are all accurate.

 

[Wunderpus]

The experts will likely know the answer right off the bat. You keep quiet for the moment and let some greenhorns take a shot at this!

My numbers are more precise than listed here. I'm rounding for simplicity. I brewed up a batch of Test C 100mg/ml mixed with Nandrolone Decanoate 100mg/ml for a solution of 200mg/ml. This is for TRT along with joint relief. I weekly take 120-140mg of test C so out of this mix, I'd draw about 1.2ml. Now I'm a proven 8x person. For 100mg of test, I can expect 7-800ng/dl on the test. When I drew blood, I was amazed to see 1600+! I thought it was amazing for a moment, then I did the math. I don't have labmax, so I relied on melting points of the Test C which was a bit over 200F, and the deca which was about 95F. Again, the answer to the high T reading is obvious to many, let's hear some of you newbies chime in with what is wrong with this picture!

How long after your injection did you draw bloods?

 

[Gramps]

15 hours I believe.

 

[Wunderpus]

15 hours I believe.

You pulled bloods 15 hours post injection, to test cyp. blood levels, why?

 

[Wunderpus]

I mean your deca is enan, sorry, half asleep.

 

[Gramps]

You pulled bloods 15 hours post injection, to test cyp. blood levels, why?

I'd been on TRT a year and a half, straight T from this source for a couple month, this batch/mix for 2-3 weeks. Timing of the shot compared to when I could take blood called for 15 hours and I wanted to see the peak anyway. I'll get to your other responses a bit later.

 

[Gramps]

Anyone else wanna chime in? @Wunderpus is doing some homework even half asleep! Some of you are up all night playing with this shit so show yourself!

 

[Gramps]

OK, boys n girls n others, @Wunderpus is on the only track I could find to go down. What else could be involved to mysteriously have me reading at 16x, has the same melting point as Deca, and show no signs of joint relief in a few weeks? Naturally when I questioned the fella that sold me the goods he claims this doesn't happen. I'll wait before putting him on blast in the hopes he has a better answer to my more detailed response, but I don't see that happening. I believe the small $ income is more important to these people than the potential $$$ loss in bad press. In the mean time it would appear I have some high dollar Test E I never ordered.

 

[Burrr]

so test e and deca have same melting point?

 

[Wunderpus]

OK, boys n girls n others, @Wunderpus is on the only track I could find to go down. What else could be involved to mysteriously have me reading at 16x, has the same melting point as Deca, and show no signs of joint relief in a few weeks? Naturally when I questioned the fella that sold me the goods he claims this doesn't happen. I'll wait before putting him on blast in the hopes he has a better answer to my more detailed response, but I don't see that happening. I believe the small $ income is more important to these people than the potential $$$ loss in bad press. In the mean time it would appear I have some high dollar Test E I never ordered.

It might be worth lab maxing...

 

[Gramps]

so test e and deca have same melting point?

Real close.
TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE Melting Point 32-36C 90-97F
NANDROLONE DECANOATE melting point= 30-35C 86-95F
Closer than I can test.

It might be worth lab maxing...

Yes it would, but I can't afford the extras as bad as that is. Is there a low cost intro kit?

 

[Wunderpus]

Real close.
TESTOSTERONE ENANTHATE Melting Point 32-36C 90-97F
NANDROLONE DECANOATE melting point= 30-35C 86-95F
Closer than I can test.



Yes it would, but I can't afford the extras as bad as that is. Is there a low cost intro kit?

Not really. Honestly, the bloods and the melting points are enough to me.... Sounds like you got yourself high priced test. enan.... Do you believe this source will offer to reimburse a mass spec?

 

[Gramps]

All comms were great - right until a problem showed up... One ignored, one answered with "we don't make mistakes" and still waiting for another. So, I don't plan to get what I ordered there any time soon nor any testing provided. At least the test I didn't order appears to be good quality, if not pricey.

 

[ickyrica]

I'm following this @Gramps , I unfortunately can't offer an educated anything because, well, I'm simply uneducated on the matter. Interested, just uneducated. Hope they come correct for you

 

[Gramps]

Education was the whole point of this thread in the breing section. If you're limited in what you can test like I am, you never know what you're getting. My "deca" passed the melt test but failed the blood test since it was test e. I'm not a labmax fan because people use it beyond its means but in this case it would likely have saved a month or more of wasted time and my overpaying.

As for the source, I've gotten the standard "we've never seen this before" along with super slow responses when asked to make it right. I'm not sure at this point I would even use whatever they shipped. Now I gotta dig up fucking money I don't have to pay again in hopes of getting what I ordered from someone else.

Until someone can explain to me how I got 16x bloods on test/deca, put Benjamin Yan Raws on your Do Not Buy list. How does that stalling and dancing feel now, Ben?

Now that THAT bridge is burned, someone point me to some reliable deca or npp!

 

[ickyrica]

I got hosed on anavar powder once. I feel for ya.

Makes a man want to go down to a Benihana and break some shit. Wait, wrong Asian folk...

 

[GoPower]

I think it might be the test itself. I have also had test ratings that were 'off-the-charts' high, when I was maintaining TRT levels with the addition of Nandrolone Cypionate for joints. The test recognized the high amount of nandrolone as testosterone. All my doctor saw was that my testosterone levels were way too high.

 

[AnTabolic73]

put the source on blast