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If you train an isolation exercise for strength a few sets and then for hypertrophy for a few sets, they definitely take away from each other, right?
 
Worf said:
What sort of isolation exercises are you doing for strength? What exercises for hypertrophy ?
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Purely curls and calf raises, I meant doing 3 sets for strength and then right after, 3 sets for hypertrophy.

I figure the strength training sets hurt the hypertrophy sets because they keep me from using heavier weight on them so I'm not able to do as much damage as I could if I did strictly hypertrophy, right? My strength sets are 8 reps, somewhat slow, and my hypertrophy sets are 12 to 16 reps with aiming at making each rep last about 3 seconds, with a good hard flex on each contraction. Is this alright? What could I do better?

I saw Eddie Hall saying that training a muscle to lift heavy and then training it to lift light takes away from the strength gains. Is this true or is he full of crap?

Everything else that I do other than biceps and calves is purely strength, but even if they take away from each other a little bit, i like to do both on biceps and calves as long as they aren't severely taking away from each other. The hypertrophy training has worked great by the looks of it the last few months, I just wanted to learn how to do It, too.
 
SteroidsBro said:
Purely curls and calf raises, I meant doing 3 sets for strength and then right after, 3 sets for hypertrophy.

I figure the strength training sets hurt the hypertrophy sets because they keep me from using heavier weight on them so I'm not able to do as much damage as I could if I did strictly hypertrophy, right? My strength sets are 8 reps, somewhat slow, and my hypertrophy sets are 12 to 16 reps with aiming at making each rep last about 3 seconds, with a good hard flex on each contraction. Is this alright? What could I do better?

I saw Eddie Hall saying that training a muscle to lift heavy and then training it to lift light takes away from the strength gains. Is this true or is he full of crap?

Everything else that I do other than biceps and calves is purely strength, but even if they take away from each other a little bit, i like to do both on biceps and calves as long as they aren't severely taking away from each other. The hypertrophy training has worked great by the looks of it the last few months, I just wanted to learn how to do It, too.
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Training biceps and calves will have no impact on strength for other lifts except making taking recovery away overall. Doesn't matter if you do high reps or low reps for them. Personally I don't do calves ever and rarely do biceps since they won't bring up my total by training them.
 
SteroidsBro said:
Purely curls and calf raises, I meant doing 3 sets for strength and then right after, 3 sets for hypertrophy.

I figure the strength training sets hurt the hypertrophy sets because they keep me from using heavier weight on them so I'm not able to do as much damage as I could if I did strictly hypertrophy, right? My strength sets are 8 reps, somewhat slow, and my hypertrophy sets are 12 to 16 reps with aiming at making each rep last about 3 seconds, with a good hard flex on each contraction. Is this alright? What could I do better?

I saw Eddie Hall saying that training a muscle to lift heavy and then training it to lift light takes away from the strength gains. Is this true or is he full of crap?

Everything else that I do other than biceps and calves is purely strength, but even if they take away from each other a little bit, i like to do both on biceps and calves as long as they aren't severely taking away from each other. The hypertrophy training has worked great by the looks of it the last few months, I just wanted to learn how to do It, too.
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Biceps and calves , traps as well, these are muscles that have varying responses to specific rep ranges. Some do better with high reps and some better with other ranges, frequency and total volume will come in to play here also. It is a very individual thing and most people just need to find what works for them with that. As far as exhausting yourself doing bi’s or calves that’s a bit different. If you are in a greater fatigue state due to working out those stabilizer muscles then it could hold back your strength in other areas. Excessive bicep, calve, or even trap soreness could definitely put a hitch in training the big 3. The key is to treat those movements and those muscles groups as supporting muscles and prioritize accordingly.
 
Oh no, I was just specifically asking about those two muscles training the two for strength and also for hypertrophy right after the strength training.
 


Can’t remember if I posted this previously.If I did please disregard.
1743 lb ATWR 74kg, dude is only 25 and still has potential IMO. I see a 1800 lb total from him in the future. Don’t think he can keep making 74 though fwiw.
 
Alot of impressive guys out there.

I was thinking of making the jump to a powerlifting gym specifically.

Will be far out of my way, but I think it would be very beneficial to my total.
I think I'm also getting impatient with my progress lol.
Especially seeing guys with a
total that blows mine out of the water at such a low weight lol

And yeah, Haack isnt even human
 
Silentlemon1011 said:
Alot of impressive guys out there.

I was thinking of making the jump to a powerlifting gym specifically.

Will be far out of my way, but I think it would be very beneficial to my total.
I think I'm also getting impatient with my progress lol.
Especially seeing guys with a
total that blows mine out of the water at such a low weight lol

And yeah, Haack isnt even human
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There's girls squatting mid to high 500's raw and pulling in the 600's. Makes me feel like my squat is weak.
 
Perrin Aybara said:
There's girls squatting mid to high 500's raw and pulling in the 600's. Makes me feel like my squat is weak.
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Daaaaammmmnnn

Thanks for making me feel terrible LOL.
Just kidding, motivates the fuck out of me.
Especially as a guy that uses gear.

I've only been back in the training game for a year, so I'm still seeing great progress and feeling amazing, trying to get.back up to 20s former glory.

Watching a woman out squat me, that's just what I need to get pumped up!

Low bar here I come!!!
 
Silentlemon1011 said:
Daaaaammmmnnn

Thanks for making me feel terrible LOL.
Just kidding, motivates the fuck out of me.
Especially as a guy that uses gear.

I've only been back in the training game for a year, so I'm still seeing great progress and feeling amazing, trying to get.back up to 20s former glory.

Watching a woman out squat me, that's just what I need to get pumped up!

Low bar here I come!!!
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Don't feel bad, she outsquats me too.
 
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