Meso Powerlifting Corner

[RodgerThat]

@Nutpuncher here you go bud.

 

[jaymaximus]

If you're a powerlifter or want to compete in it a smith machine will not be acceptable. The restricted range of motion, the decrease in stabilizer muscle activity needed, and the fact that it's not a free weight will not help you in PL.

BBers find uses for the smith machine but I only use it as a seat or a coat hanger.

That's not even doing the movement. Smith machines don't include bar weight and don't use stabilizer muscles I top of that they hold an unnatural bar path and can lead to damage in your joints and if your squating in it you can seriously injure your back with heavier weight. Sorry man but smith machine counts about the same as saying you can leg press 600 so you can squat 600 it doesn't translate at all

Edit: damn @Docd187123 beat me by like 30 seconds!

 

[Docd187123]

Thanks , the reason why I ask is because I don't have a work out partner.

You are correct in @RodgerThat, I noticed I can lift much heavier on a smith machine. I didn't realize no bar weight until you mentioned it.


Any suggestions on lifting without partner/spotter? Should I simply not put the lock nuts on when I bench so I can dump the weights if need to? Which seems like a dangerous way of saving my ass.

You shouldn't need one in your day to day training unless you train to failure which many powerlifters avoid. If you're going for max effort work or a rep max then just ask for a quick spot for those particular sets. Yes you can also leave off the clamps to dump the weights.

 

[jaymaximus]

You shouldn't need one in your day to day training unless you train to failure which many powerlifters avoid. If you're going for max effort work or a rep max then just ask for a quick spot for those particular sets. Yes you can also leave off the clamps to dump the weights.

Damn Doc. Youre on it. I was typing the same thing and saw an alert come through. Youve must be training fingers

 

[jaymaximus]

I did my first day of westside barbell today. Its only 1 day, but its good so far. I liked only doing one "major" lift because I was able to take my time there and really concentrate (today was squats + accessories) on it.
Also did my first hamstring centric work since like June...fuck, I sucked!

 

[Whoremoans]

Why do you need a training partner to max on squats? Do you not have a power rack with bars to catch the weight?

 

[jaymaximus]

Why do you need a training partner to max on squats? Do you not have a power rack with bars to catch the weight?

I cant speak for him. At my regular gym theres no power rack. Sucks balls. Ive been spoiled the last 2 weeks away from home at a great gym. Really changes your whole workout and mentality when you have quality equipment.

 

[Whoremoans]

I cant speak for him. At my regular gym theres no power rack. Sucks balls. Ive been spoiled the last 2 weeks away from home at a great gym. Really changes your whole workout and mentality when you have quality equipment.

Everything is old and beat up in my gym but I love it there. You can tell it's a powerlifting gym by the amount of bent barbells.

 

[Whoremoans]

It's pretty cool you have all your treadmills, steppers, machines, and all that shit up front. Then if you go in the back room you get to the good shit. Benches everywhere, power racks, bars and belts galore, two massive dumbbell sets from 5lbs to 165lbs and all hammer strength errythang press machines. I love my barbell club.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Everything is old and beat up in my gym but I love it there. You can tell it's a powerlifting gym by the amount of bent barbells.

I wish there was one of those around here, I bet it cuts down on the casuals. My gym isn't bad, they've got a platform and rack and allow chalk, but it's full of senior citizens that complain about noise and staff doesn't know a thing about lifting, including the trainers. A guy that does strongman brought his own deadlift jack and the manager had a fit and made him take it home. I asked one of the trainers what happened to it and she didn't even know the purpose of it.

 

[Whoremoans]

 

[jaymaximus]

I wish there was one of those around here, I bet it cuts down on the casuals. My gym isn't bad, they've got a platform and rack and allow chalk, but it's full of senior citizens that complain about noise and staff doesn't know a thing about lifting, including the trainers. A guy that does strongman brought his own deadlift jack and the manager had a fit and made him take it home. I asked one of the trainers what happened to it and she didn't even know the purpose of it.

I'll admit, before I got into it powerlifters used to get on my nerves in the gym. Always slamming shit around and Deadlifting wherever they wanted. Of course I was probably hatin a little bit. Now that im on the other side I get the same treatment.

 

[Whoremoans]

I wish there was one of those around here, I bet it cuts down on the casuals. My gym isn't bad, they've got a platform and rack and allow chalk, but it's full of senior citizens that complain about noise and staff doesn't know a thing about lifting, including the trainers. A guy that does strongman brought his own deadlift jack and the manager had a fit and made him take it home. I asked one of the trainers what happened to it and she didn't even know the purpose of it.

Nobody complains about noise here. And you never get anybody in the back that's not a serious lifter. All the old people, and women stay up front with the machines and cardio equipment. It's kind of segregated lol. Three separated rooms, cardio and machines up front, crossfit room in the middle, powerlifting/heavy shit in the back.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

I'll admit, before I got into it powerlifters used to get on my nerves in the gym. Always slamming shit around and Deadlifting wherever they wanted. Of course I was probably hatin a little bit. Now that im on the other side I get the same treatment.

There's some guys at my gym that do strongman and they're loud and make a big scene, but our deadlift days fall on the same day every now and then and I always have a good time lifting with them. My fiance hates it though, she calls it a circus every time they come to the gym packing their circus dumbbell, axle, log and all that. I know they constantly get complaints by the older people.

Nobody complains about noise here. And you never get anybody in the back that's not a serious lifter. All the old people, and women stay up front with the machines and cardio equipment. It's kind of segregated lol. Three separated rooms, cardio and machines up front, crossfit room in the middle, powerlifting/heavy shit in the back.

I'd rather lift somewhere like that. Concrete floors, no AC, just fans, all free weights. Pantera Far Beyond Driven on repeat.

At my gym they have an aerobics room, then the upper body weights and cardio stuff are in one room and lower body stuff is in another. Since most people don't do legs at all that room is at least mostly empty most of the time, so no waiting.

 

[Nutpuncher]

Why do you need a training partner to max on squats? Do you not have a power rack with bars to catch the weight?

Great question. There is 1 squat rack at my work gym but with my lack of knowledge, I thought you would need someone standing behind you incase you somehow fall back. Thank you for suggestion.

 

[Perrin Aybara]

Great question. There is 1 squat rack at my work gym but with my lack of knowledge, I thought you would need someone standing behind you incase you somehow fall back. Thank you for suggestion.

95% of my training I've done alone. Just use the power rack wisely and you're good.

 

[Whoremoans]

Great question. There is 1 squat rack at my work gym but with my lack of knowledge, I thought you would need someone standing behind you incase you somehow fall back. Thank you for suggestion.

I don't think I could fall backwards when I squat.. I always lean a bit forward. Feet wide, toes out.

 

[Whoremoans]

Also if your gym is empty you can use the power rack to save your ass on heavy bench attempts.

 

[Nutpuncher]

95% of my training I've done alone. Just use the power rack wisely and you're good.

Will do.

I don't think I could fall backwards when I squat.. I always lean a big forward. Feet wide, toes out.

Yea, that's my problem....not correct form because sometimes I feel off balance.

 

[Masters Power]

Everything is old and beat up in my gym but I love it there. You can tell it's a powerlifting gym by the amount of bent barbells.

I've f'ing managed to bend 2 of my 4 Olympic barbells. Pisses me off since I make sure not to drop them as I own them.