My PCT Journal to kickstart HPTA post HRT

[BigAk]

There you are when you see him tell him we said HI. If your going to do any E2 or E testing you need to come off the clomid do a search on this SWALE posted about this some time ago. I think he will spend about 2 to 3 hrs with you and order tests to have done when you get back. I hope now you will sleep good to night.

I will make sure to send him your regards phil.

I am glad you've mentioned this fact about the clomid. Although I feel certain my clomid is fake, I will stay off it anyway.

Funny thing.... After I booked my appt., suddenly I started feeling much better. This is an indication that my bad feelings were self triggered in my head and not because of my test levels. Hopefully I will be sleeping good tonight.

 

[chap]

good luck AK, hopefully Swale will keep you on the right path and hopefully you will keep adding to this 'journal' as you go on your journey, your health is a life long path that you follow

also, don't underestimate the power of the mind, I would bet that if they had slipped you a fake test report saying everything was optimal and sky high, you would be feeling on top of the world right now, even with the 'low' test

I still don't think that your clomid was fake, but like Matt said, just the assurance for your mind is important in your case, so I think you have made the right decision in getting an appointment

Good luck

 

[BigAk]

also, don't underestimate the power of the mind, I would bet that if they had slipped you a fake test report saying everything was optimal and sky high, you would be feeling on top of the world right now, even with the 'low' test

That is a very true fact chap... For instance; after I setup my appointment with Dr. Crisler's secretary I felt better already.. Now, I am sitting with my wife as she's watching old episodes of Ally McBeal. I am feeling very content and not upset at all. It's hard to believe that I'm feeling this good on 77 total T. I have made the mistake of allowing my mind to believe that I should feel really bad at 77. So I did feel bad. Now that I'm on my quest to Michigan, I'm feeling a 100 times better.

As far as the clomid Chap.. My inner feeling tells me it's fake. That's for two reasons:
1) Why did I not feel any of the horrible side effects that everyone is talking about. People talk about bad sides from a mere 50mg dose. I was taking 100 for a whole month!!! No visual sides... no head pressure....

2) Why would I be a special case that Clomid doesn't work on?? I mean; after 30 days of being on the stuff, you'd think my levels would be more than 77...

I am hoping that Dr. Crisler would be be able to offer a good plan for me to save my HPTA.

 

[chap]

There are actually many people that clomid doesn't work on. Clomid is used as a test in endocrinology by whether it 'works' or not on a given patient.

It is also an important fact that has been known by wise people for a long time, is never judge the legitimacy of a substance based on side effects or not. I've heard that before with aas, people accusing their source of selling bunk because they didn't get side effects....... side effects are very individual. I didn't get much in sides and I was on 300 mg of clomid, I only got visual tracers one morning, and I was taking 3 times as much as you.

Regardless of the above, you have taken an important step for peace of mind, anyway, and at least the Doctor will 'force' you to follow a certain regimen, which will hopefully keep you from sabotaging yourself.

best of luck

 

[pmgamer18]

That is a very true fact chap... For instance; after I setup my appointment with Dr. Crisler's secretary I felt better already.. Now, I am sitting with my wife as she's watching old episodes of Ally McBeal. I am feeling very content and not upset at all. It's hard to believe that I'm feeling this good on 77 total T. I have made the mistake of allowing my mind to believe that I should feel really bad at 77. So I did feel bad. Now that I'm on my quest to Michigan, I'm feeling a 100 times better.

As far as the clomid Chap.. My inner feeling tells me it's fake. That's for two reasons:
1) Why did I not feel any of the horrible side effects that everyone is talking about. People talk about bad sides from a mere 50mg dose. I was taking 100 for a whole month!!! No visual sides... no head pressure....

2) Why would I be a special case that Clomid doesn't work on?? I mean; after 30 days of being on the stuff, you'd think my levels would be more than 77...

I am hoping that Dr. Crisler would be be able to offer a good plan for me to save my HPTA.

BigAK your a lot like me and if I let my mind go wiled I would be a bigger mess then I am to day. Yrs. ago a Dr. told me about doing this when I was in the Hosp. If you can read this link and try this 2x's a day to give your mind and body a big rest a much bigger rest then 8 hrs. sleep. It takes some time to learn it but once you do you can do this anywhere on a bus in the john at work.

http://www.ucop.edu/humres/eap/relaxationrespone.html

And if you like this get the book. Also when you can't sleep try doing this it will put you to sleep laying down.

 

[BigAk]

BigAK your a lot like me and if I let my mind go wiled I would be a bigger mess then I am to day. Yrs. ago a Dr. told me about doing this when I was in the Hosp. If you can read this link and try this 2x's a day to give your mind and body a big rest a much bigger rest then 8 hrs. sleep. It takes some time to learn it but once you do you can do this anywhere on a bus in the john at work.

http://www.ucop.edu/humres/eap/relaxationrespone.html

And if you like this get the book. Also when you can't sleep try doing this it will put you to sleep laying down.

You've told me about this before Phil..... but I haven't put it to practice yet. I think I will try it sometime today. I just had lunch so I have to wait two hours before I do it. Thank you for all your support.

 

[BigAk]

Feeling really shitty today.... I have low energy and I'm very depressed... I don't know how I'm going to last till Tuesday feeling like this... Even then, nothing magical is going to happen.. We have to do more blood work and wait before Dr. Crisler can determine what is needed for my therapy.

Could it be that my test levels have headed further down than 77?? and that's why I'm feeing shitty.... I'm not sure I can handle this all weekend long...

What do you guys suggest I should do??

 

[tigerlilly]

This is going to sound smart ass. But you may want to throw back a couple of beers, and take in a good movie. Think positive thoughts. Don't get wrapped up psychologically.

 

[hackskii]

That is good advice but alcohol will elivate estrogen in men so this might not make things better.

 

[pmgamer18]

Feeling really shitty today.... I have low energy and I'm very depressed... I don't know how I'm going to last till Tuesday feeling like this... Even then, nothing magical is going to happen.. We have to do more blood work and wait before Dr. Crisler can determine what is needed for my therapy.

Could it be that my test levels have headed further down than 77?? and that's why I'm feeing shitty.... I'm not sure I can handle this all weekend long...

What do you guys suggest I should do??

Stop it you have bad and good days don't try to analyze them like this your sabotaging your self. Stop thinking this is bad for you. How was the wood this morning any.

 

[BigAk]

Stop it you have bad and good days don't try to analyze them like this your sabotaging your self. Stop thinking this is bad for you. How was the wood this morning any.

I have not had morning wood since the last one time I did about four days ago. That was unexplainable... What's more unexplainable is that a week ago, I had an intercourse with my wife..... Then I thought I was on my way to recovery and started feeling better..... makes no sense to me at all.

I went to get the results of my bloodwork today but they were not ready... I was hoping to see what my Estradiol and total E was in order to determine if I need to take Arimidex or not. For some reason I suspect that they are high because today I'm feeling anxiety.

Could Tuesday get here any sooner!!!!

 

[pmgamer18]

I have not had morning wood since the last one time I did about four days ago. That was unexplainable... What's more unexplainable is that a week ago, I had an intercourse with my wife..... Then I thought I was on my way to recovery and started feeling better..... makes no sense to me at all.

I went to get the results of my bloodwork today but they were not ready... I was hoping to see what my Estradiol and total E was in order to determine if I need to take Arimidex or not. For some reason I suspect that they are high because today I'm feeling anxiety.

Could Tuesday get here any sooner!!!!

Hang in there man we all are pulling for you.

 

[BigAk]

Hang in there man we all are pulling for you.

Phil.... I don't believe I could go through this without your support and everyone else's for me. If it wasn't for you guys, I would have hit the Androgel two days ago and wasted a whole month and a half of hard work on trying to recover. I owe you all... I owe you big time... It's like you guys are part of my PCT. You guys should be added to the protocol steps, and I vote to make it step number one. unbelievably, one of you even took it upon himself to call me in person at home and offer his help and support. All of this leaves me only speechless to express my appreciation adequately. All I can say is that I am a blessed guy to have you all pull for me...

 

[pmgamer18]

Phil.... I don't believe I could go through this without your support and everyone else's for me. If it wasn't for you guys, I would have hit the Androgel two days ago and wasted a whole month and a half of hard work on trying to recover. I owe you all... I owe you big time... It's like you guys are part of my PCT. You guys should be added to the protocol steps, and I vote to make it step number one. unbelievably, one of you even took it upon himself to call me in person at home and offer his help and support. All of this leaves me only speechless to express my appreciation adequately. All I can say is that I am a blessed guy to have you all pull for me...

BigAK this is what the forum is about help and support I owe my life to these guys that have helped me in times of despair. I asked the BIG up there to watch over you last night I hope he did, how was your night. I had a chance to talk to Dr. John and told him to take good care of you. He told me he will do his best.

 

[BigAk]

BigAK this is what the forum is about help and support I owe my life to these guys that have helped me in times of despair. I asked the BIG up there to watch over you last night I hope he did, how was your night. I had a chance to talk to Dr. John and told him to take good care of you. He told me he will do his best.

Awesome Phil.... Thank you for praying for me. He sure answered your prayers; cause I felt pretty good last night actually. After my last post yestereday I was feeling really bad and anxious. I thought maybe some Arimidex just in case my estrogen is sky high.. I took Arimidex and took a nap... I woke up feeling pretty good. I spent the whole night with my wife watching TV and she ordered a pizza... We had a nice relaxing time.

I'm very spiritual and pray alot.. I think any cure is destint from above. I'm sure that before long He'll have mercy on me... He always does..... When I go through the hard hard times, I'm afraid it's just pay-back time for all the sins I committed in the past.... At least that's what I feel and believe. I brought all this to myself with my own hands.

I want to also thank you for putting a good word for me with Dr. Crisler... I am excited about my trip.

Today has been okay actually..... When I did my blood work yesterday, the doctor wrote me up a script for time released low dose Xanax... Although I don't want to rely on this stuff, my wife thought it would be a good idea to take the edge off and make me relax this Saturday. So, I did take one this morning... I've been feeling pretty mellow all day... no anxiety .... no depression.... Actually, I'm having a good day..... It's an overcast day today, and the temprature is mild.. I took my 3year-old son to the park... We rode the carousel many times and rode on many other rides... It was a very relaxing time and made me feel very happy.

Tonight, we're getting a baby sitter and we're going out for movies... I hope you're having an awesome weekend Phil.

 

[pmgamer18]

Awesome Phil.... Thank you for praying for me. He sure answered your prayers; cause I felt pretty good last night actually. After my last post yestereday I was feeling really bad and anxious. I thought maybe some Arimidex just in case my estrogen is sky high.. I took Arimidex and took a nap... I woke up feeling pretty good. I spent the whole night with my wife watching TV and she ordered a pizza... We had a nice relaxing time.

I'm very spiritual and pray alot.. I think any cure is destint from above. I'm sure that before long He'll have mercy on me... He always does..... When I go through the hard hard times, I'm afraid it's just pay-back time for all the sins I committed in the past.... At least that's what I feel and believe. I brought all this to myself with my own hands.

I want to also thank you for putting a good word for me with Dr. Crisler... I am excited about my trip.

Today has been okay actually..... When I did my blood work yesterday, the doctor wrote me up a script for time released low dose Xanax... Although I don't want to rely on this stuff, my wife thought it would be a good idea to take the edge off and make me relax this Saturday. So, I did take one this morning... I've been feeling pretty mellow all day... no anxiety .... no depression.... Actually, I'm having a good day..... It's an overcast day today, and the temprature is mild.. I took my 3year-old son to the park... We rode the carousel many times and rode on many other rides... It was a very relaxing time and made me feel very happy.

Tonight, we're getting a baby sitter and we're going out for movies... I hope you're having an awesome weekend Phil.

I just got back from the show and dinner we had Mexican I am feeling good. Watch that Xanax been weaning off it for the last 3 months I am down to .125mgs at bed time. Dam hard stuff to come off. I will put the word in for you to have a dam good night.

 

[daphne]

My doc has me doing T Enan or T-Cyp at 1ml every 7 to 10 days and a 1/2 ml of HCG once per week. My issue is that I am unhappy with the quality of my erection and that once I achieve the goal, the rebound is way to long (the descent is too fast). Should I increase the HCG? Take Cialis for quality of life? Thoughts

 

[pmgamer18]

My doc has me doing T Enan or T-Cyp at 1ml every 7 to 10 days and a 1/2 ml of HCG once per week. My issue is that I am unhappy with the quality of my erection and that once I achieve the goal, the rebound is way to long (the descent is too fast). Should I increase the HCG? Take Cialis for quality of life? Thoughts

Iml does not tell me your dose t comes in 100mgs/ml and 200mgs/ml. But when I have this problem it is my Estradiol is to high.

 

[BigAk]

I just got back from the show and dinner we had Mexican I am feeling good. Watch that Xanax been weaning off it for the last 3 months I am down to .125mgs at bed time. Dam hard stuff to come off. I will put the word in for you to have a dam good night.

Yeah... I know... I'm also scared of getting hooked on the Xanax.. I am going to take it only if I need it.
I had a good night last night too Phil... But, this morning Sunday, I didn't feel myself all day long... not sure what's going on in me hormonally any more.... But, I took more Arimidex and took a nap. I woke up feeling a bit better.... I am really hoping that my body is still trying hard to recover regardless of any Clomid which I quit taking since last Thursday.

 

[BigAk]

How do you guys explain this one to me...

Today is Monday which is a week post my last blood results that revealed 77 range of test. I woke up this morning laying next to my wife... I eventually started feeling horny but was very scared to try anything. However, although I did not have an AM wood this morning, I was able to get turned on and obtain an errection and have an intercourse. The errection was not the best in the world and ended up ejaculating rather quickly. But, I was actually able to have sex and enjoy it immensly... Volume was good too.

Although I'm devistated with my numbers, I feel like I'm performing and living as if I don't have low test.

What in the world is going on with me guys????