Currently running:
750mg of testosterone cypionate
400mg of trenbolone enanthate
250/300mg of tudca + nac
20mg of cialis
20mg of cardarine

I have a resting heart rate of 120-140 bpm.
My question is can I run 40mg of propranolol and 10 mg of ezetimibe while on cycle to help with this?
Thanks in advance.
 
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Bruh. That is an ultra high RHR. Why throw more meds at it? You've already got quite the polypharmacy situation going on.

Is that 20mg Cialis PER DAY? I hope not.

I would start with dumping the cardarine. Drop the Cialis to 5mg/day max if you're at 20mg day. Check your electrolytes. Make sure you're getting plenty of cardio.

Also, don't run the tren longer than 6 weeks. If this is a bulking cycle drop it altogether - tren is a poopy bulker compared to 100 other compounds you could run that are way better for bulking and less harsh on the organs.

I'm curious how much do you weigh? How many cycles have you run before? Are you watching your blood pressure too?

edit: also your history has you at 19yo and also starting a cycle just this March - and you're blasting over a gram of gear right now in late summer/early fall. I'll spare you the "you're too young for this" stuff as it's too late already. But please, please understand that this process is a marathon, not a sprint. Be nice to your body.
 
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Yeah 20mg of cialis per day. Why "I hope not"?

Using 20mg of cialis per day to keep blood pressure under control, with 30 minutes of cardio per day.

Blood pressure is 125/78

Because that's a lot of tadalafil. The daily dosage should be 5mg max. If you are having BP issues, run a BP med like telmisartan. While Cialis can at times slightly lower BP, it's not an actual BP med. But dude, your age and giving yourself BP issues - please don't do this to yourself. Though 125/78 is decent. Look, even if you don't believe me - you can at least drop the cialis to 5mg max and cardarine to 0mg for a couple of weeks and see what it does to your RHR. Are you taking anything else that might affect your RHR? Preworkout? Caffeine? Stimulants?

Note that cycles like this can take an existing stimulant regimen and explode the side effects - say for instance if you're on ADHD meds or something like that.
 
Are you taking anything else that might affect your RHR? Preworkout? Caffeine? Stimulants?

Note that cycles like this can take an existing stimulant regimen and explode the side effects - say for instance if you're on ADHD meds or something like that.
No, I don't take anything like pre workout, caffeine, stimulants etc. No other medication.

Edit: Also don't drink and smoke.
 
Cut the tren and cardarine out and cut the cialis at least in half. 5-10mg is all that's needed for blood pressure.
 
Currently running:
750mg of testosterone cypionate
400mg of trenbolone enanthate
250/300mg of tudca + nac
20mg of cialis
20mg of cardarine

I have a resting heart rate of 120-140 bpm.
My question is can I run 40mg of propranolol and 10 mg of ezetimibe while on cycle to help with this?
Thanks in advance.
How much ai u using?
And what level is your estradiol at?
 
Not using any ai at all.

I don't suffer at all from estrogen or prolactin issues regardless of how hard I push it for or however long I choose.

Getting bloodwork on the 20th
My guess is high estrogen with possibly high prolactin.
I did not see the ai in the protocol so i knew it was the estrogen more then likely just wanted you to confirm it .
Do bloods as soon as possible and maybe drop the tren.
 
It's almost certainly the cialis. I can't believe you're running 20mg. Jesus Christ. Why?

Although cardarine has cardio-positive effects, I've definitely heard of it causing an elevated heart rate in individuals prone to tachycardia. And the combination of cardarine with 4 times the maximum therapeutic dose of cialis certainly isn't doing you any favors.

Tren is notoriously cardio-toxic. It's probably the single worst offender of any AAS. And as another poster mentioned, it isn't the best for adding mass. It's only used by pros because of its interaction with glucocorticoid receptors, causing it to massively spare muscle during a caloric deficit.

Honestly, your cycle is reckless enough, you're a bit lucky this is all that's happening. You need to be more intelligent about the stuff you put in your body. I'm amazed you're running that much cialis. What made you think that much cialis was a good idea?
 
3 people have told you the smart things to do already
I asked can I use propranolol to slow down heart rate and ezetimibe for cholesterol on cycle.

Can I use propranolol for now until telmisartan arrives.

The test and tren will take a week to half in my system, so I'm asking can I use propranolol for the moment until then.

Also I'm 20 as that's outdated.

Rarely on here ever.
 
It's almost certainly the cialis. I can't believe you're running 20mg. Jesus Christ. Why?

Although cardarine has cardio-positive effects, I've definitely heard of it causing an elevated heart rate in individuals prone to tachycardia. And the combination of cardarine with 4 times the maximum therapeutic dose of cialis certainly isn't doing you any favors.

Tren is notoriously cardio-toxic. It's probably the single worst offender of any AAS.

Honestly, your cycle is reckless enough, you're a bit lucky this is all that's happening. You need to be more intelligent about the stuff you put in your body. I'm amazed you're running that much cialis. What made you think that much cialis was a good idea?
Because the therapeutic dose of cialis is in context of a non enhanced person.

Without cialis and cardio my blood pressure skyrockets up to 180

Edit: Also my source does 20mg cialis, 50 tablets. I just take 1 a day.

Generally curious with what's wrong with running cialis that high?
 
Because the therapeutic dose of cialis is in context of a non enhanced person.

Without cialis and cardio my blood pressure skyrockets up to 180

Edit: Also my source does 20mg cialis, 50 tablets. I just take 1 a day.

Generally curious with what's wrong with running cialis that high?
Nothing really. It’s simply more than necessary to achieve boners or lower blood pressure. I’d drop it down to a capsule EOD if for nothing more than to save money because more than that isn’t really doing anything above and beyond
 
I asked can I use propranolol to slow down heart rate

This shit is notorious for causing irregular arrhythmia. You need to stop assuming you can just randomly self prescribe a slew of random shit. At this point, you're just tossing fecal matter against the wall and seeing what sticks.

Stop taking everything you're taking other than the test. The tren will take a long time to clear, but that ship already sailed. You'll also have its metabolites bouncing around in your system for up to a year, so congrats.

Because the therapeutic dose of cialis is in context of a non enhanced person.

Exactly, so taking four times the normal amount (while regularly ingesting other compounds that are taxing on the cardiovascular system) is an absolutely terrible idea.

Cialis just happens to lower blood pressure as a biproduct of being a vasodilator. It isn't something you just titrate through the roof because it's heart healthy and combats the negative effects other compounds can have on your heart. Doctors don't just hand out cialis like candy. They won't even prescribe it to someone with a heart condition. Cialis, all by itself, certainly has the capacity to damage a person's heart.

Without cialis and cardio my blood pressure skyrockets up to 180

Then wtf are you doing on that cycle?

I've done 1g of test, 1g of anavar, and 1g of primo, without my blood pressure being higher than the 130's/80's.

If you just stopped taking everything other than the test, you'd (hopefully) be fine. But continuing to stack more drugs on top of what you're taking now is insanely stupid. And your lack of ability to understand your situation makes me think you shouldn't even try AAS.

BTW, when you cycle off and go hypogonadal for months straight while you PCT, you'll most likely lose 90% of what you gained during the cycle.

There are much better ways to go about this than what you're doing, and that's putting it mildly.
 
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