New Bill Roberts article on labmax testing

[Kinikuman]

Labmax def has it's place... I'll continue to use it, especially when determining anavar from winstrol and dbol. I can say without a doubt that it can determine which hormone is which.

Bill Roberts is far from the steriod God... There are ton of so called experts out there. All he has stated is his opinion of the tests based on nothing but his "chemistry" background. Until he personally does some in depth testing of the product, I don't give a shit what he says. It's his opinion...

I just need to see some concrete studies to disprove labmax...

Do you have any concrete studies that show us that Labmax functions as you claim it does? A bunch of bros running the test in their bathrooms and kitchens don't count, either. Why do we need studies to disprove but nothing to prove? That's not science, it's faith. Faith in something that someone is selling to you... and of course they are doing so out the benign goodness of their hearts, right? I am not so easily convinced.

 

[tanuki]

So funny. When I said this last year everyone flipped one lol.

Facts don't matter when you feel it in your gut. The Catholic Church jailed Galileo for backing up Copernicus' theory of a heliocentric solar system.

 

[Sworder]

Everyone should think real carefully about this: it cannot detect raw test.
How then does it detect Test that has been mixed with any number and/or concentrations of various substances? How??

Asking people to think, Kinikuman you are silly

 

[Kinikuman]

Asking people to think, Kinikuman you are silly

I know... It's asking a lot.

Put simply, you might get results as accurate and consistent as Labmax using tea leaves to determine the compound and concentration in your vials.

It's easy - here's how:

1. Buy some special divining tea from me or one of my associates. (Only $20 per kit!)
2. Mix the loose tea leaves in a cup with hot water, not boiling.
3. Steep tea for 3-5 minutes, or until the liquid reaches a color you like.
4. Drink the tea. Yes, all of it.
5. Spit the leaves that stuck to your teeth back in the cup.
6. Wait 5 minutes. You should feel a nice little caffeine rush that will intensify the anticipation.
7. Now, look down deep into the bottom of the cup. All the way down,
8. If the leaves are gathered in the center the compound listed on the vial may or may not be what it claims.
9. If the leaves tend to gather more to the left side that means your compound is of a high concentration. Possibly. To the right means it is low concentration. Perhaps. Occasionally these are reversed depending upon the solar alignment and the forbearance of reptiles.
10. In the event that leaves gather around edges in circle your vial is total bunk. Or maybe not.
11. If test is inconclusive, buy another one and try again. Sooner or later you'll get a hit. I promise.

Feel free to PM me for ordering details! Buy now, while they last!

 

[Fouts]

I know... It's asking a lot.

Put simply, you might get results as accurate and consistent as Labmax using tea leaves to determine the compound and concentration in your vials.

It's easy - here's how:

1. Buy some special divining tea from me or one of my associates. (Only $20 per kit!)
2. Mix the loose tea leaves in a cup with hot water, not boiling.
3. Steep tea for 3-5 minutes, or until the liquid reaches a color you like.
4. Drink the tea. Yes, all of it.
5. Spit the leaves that stuck to your teeth back in the cup.
6. Wait 5 minutes. You should feel a nice little caffeine rush that will intensify the anticipation.
7. Now, look down deep into the bottom of the cup. All the way down,
8. If the leaves are gathered in the center the compound listed on the vial may or may not be what it claims.
9. If the leaves tend to gather more to the left side that means your compound is of a high concentration. Possibly. To the right means it is low concentration. Perhaps. Occasionally these are reversed depending upon the solar alignment and the forbearance of reptiles.
10. In the event that leaves gather around edges in circle your vial is total bunk. Or maybe not.
11. If test is inconclusive, buy another one and try again. Sooner or later you'll get a hit. I promise.

Feel free to PM me for ordering details! Buy now, while they last!

it doesn't matter what you say people will still buy into it. I work for a company like that. They get sold magic beans and expect the golden goose eggs on a weekly basis. Sometimes I wonder how they stay in business.
But there are people here who will defend it simply because they have believed in it for so long.
i think the word shill gets thrown around way too much.
I wouldn't say Mercury is a shill I would say he's devoted a lot of time to something that now is pretty questionable. Its only natural to get defensive.

I would like to see more tests done on Watson cyp from pharmacies and see how consistent it ends up being. That would restore some of my faith at least.

 

[ebola]

it doesn't matter what you say people will still buy into it.

I see here only two idiots attacking labmax.

I am new in that thing.

I got some vials, test prop. I have tested it passed labmax. I have NPP it also passed labmax. I know that I started to pin good gear. I start to see good gains and I feel that it is good.

Labmax worked exactly like in the instruction they supply. I do not know what those idiots are talking about. If I listened to idiots like them from beginning I would be pinning corn oil.

They have been basted with bunk gear this is why they attack the test.

 

[Fouts]

I see here only two idiots attacking labmax.

I am new in that thing.

I got some vials, test prop. I have tested it passed labmax. I have NPP it also passed labmax. I know that I started to pin good gear. I start to see good gains and I feel that it is good.

Labmax worked exactly like in the instruction they supply. I do not know what those idiots are talking about. If I listened to idiots like them from beginning I would be pinning corn oil.

They have been basted with bunk gear this is why they attack the test.

Quite an assumption

 

[tanuki]

I see here only a few idiots like myself ebola and mercury dickricking labmax.

Fixed it for ya

 

[Docd187123]

I see here only two idiots attacking labmax.

I am new in that thing.

I got some vials, test prop. I have tested it passed labmax. I have NPP it also passed labmax. I know that I started to pin good gear. I start to see good gains and I feel that it is good.

Labmax worked exactly like in the instruction they supply. I do not know what those idiots are talking about. If I listened to idiots like them from beginning I would be pinning corn oil.

They have been basted with bunk gear this is why they attack the test.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[tanuki]

Labmax worked exactly like in the instruction they supply.

God exists because the bible, torah, koran, or harry potter series says so.

 

[Docd187123]

God exists because the bible, torah, koran, or harry potter series says so.

But does God work exactly like in the instructions supplied?

 

[mojuice87]

God exists because the bible, torah, koran, or harry potter series says so.

Can't argue with Harry potter bro. The other books are sketchy but Harry potter is the truth.

 

[DTdr2]

God exists because the bible, torah, koran, or harry potter series says so.

But does God work exactly like in the instructions supplied?

This is a Bill Roberts thread. For. God issue's please go to https://thinksteroids.com/community/index.php?threads/134246719/

 

[Kinikuman]

I see here only two idiots attacking labmax.

I am new in that thing.

I got some vials, test prop. I have tested it passed labmax. I have NPP it also passed labmax. I know that I started to pin good gear. I start to see good gains and I feel that it is good.

Labmax worked exactly like in the instruction they supply. I do not know what those idiots are talking about. If I listened to idiots like them from beginning I would be pinning corn oil.

They have been basted with bunk gear this is why they attack the test.

Hi Contagion. Got any proof of your claims, idiot? Like maybe an HPLC report backing up what your Labmax test told you?

No? I didn't think so. Just more broscience bullshit.

You would not be the first to claim their gear was good on feel and gains. Ever hear of the placebo effect? It can be powerful.

I normally refrain from the name-calling because it is so pedantic but in your case it is clearly warranted. You tested 2 products that came out the way you wanted them to and this is proof that the test works? Idiots like you are pinning corn oil because you put your faith in a test that doesn't work.

Neither I nor any other member here are "attacking" the test. Challenging it's validity? Absolutely so. I'm too old and experienced to just take everything on faith that gets pushed my way. Something smelled about Labmax the first time I saw it. As more and more information comes to light, my opinion, based on facts, has become more solid.

I question everything that get's pushed our way and for good reason. There are far more predators than providers in this game. I, for one, actually give 2 shits about the welfare of the members of this board. If I think they are being taken advantage of or being misinformed in ways that could cause them harm, it is my duty to stand up and say something about it.

 

[flenser]

This thread is a trip. I see a lot of generic arguments against labmax, mostly stating how unreliable it is. I completely agree with the unreliable tag. Those saying otherwise are just wrong. It’s a damned finicky test that’s very easy to misinterpret. And yes it can be spoofed.

But labmax does do one thing very well, and that’s tell you when the label on the vial doesn’t match the contents. Does it give some false fails due to carrier oils and impurities? Yes, of course it does, but so what. I’m perfectly happy dumping a vial that failed labmax, even if it “may” contain what was claimed – and something else that I can’t identify.

More to the point is the number of times labmax has been right and shown something was fake. Just from memory I can think of Astro (var, test e, mast p, mast e), Pep (var, mast p, mast e, test p), Biologic (test c, mast e, deca), MFL (test p, mast p, test e), GP (deca, test e, mast p), and those are just the things I bought and tested myself. Several UGLs have been run out of here due to failed labmax tests (how is Mike Strong’s rep around here these days?), quite a few others simply had to close.

Is labmax unreliable in some cases? Yes. Is it less reliable than a UGL printed label? NO! I personally believe UGLs are too unreliable even with labmax tests. I no longer buy from them at all. The reason I reached that decision was all the fake shit I found when I labmaxed what I bought.

 

[flenser]

I should also mention that using labmax is 100% reliable against substitutions. A primo vial containing test p is going to be obvious as hell. Ditto mast p containing deca (AMA sold me this). There are probably a dozen other common substitutions that UGLs have practiced for years with virtually no chance of getting caught. Not anymore, though. Labmax makes substitutions very risky for UGLs.

 

[mercury]

I should also mention that using labmax is 100% reliable against substitutions. A primo vial containing test p is going to be obvious as hell. Ditto mast p containing deca (AMA sold me this). There are probably a dozen other common substitutions that UGLs have practiced for years with virtually no chance of getting caught. Not anymore, though. Labmax makes substitutions very risky for UGLs.

I have been user of this test for a long time and I am not pinning corn oil anymore. It is not 100% bullet proof but those guys pay $5 for single test vial and expect it to be HPLC or GCMS.

It is very well documented. If you have good test prop, it will show you it will react with proper colors. If you have NPP it will show you it will react with different colors, etc... It will react with different color to different steroids, you cannot fool this.

If you have only corn oil it will show you that it is fake.

UV light is the most important part of the test and this guy Bill Roberts does not even mention it, he has no understanding of the test.

 

[Kinikuman]

Does it give some false fails due to carrier oils and impurities? Yes, of course it does, but so what.

Then by this same property, you might also have false positives, no?
If so, then this refutes your next post.

I should also mention that using labmax is 100% reliable against substitutions.

Because we all want some measure of protection against fraud it is easy to not look at the whole picture. Consider it.

 

[flenser]

Does it give some false fails due to carrier oils and impurities? Yes, of course it does, but so what.

Then by this same property, you might also have false positives, no?
If so, then this refutes your next post.

I should also mention that using labmax is 100% reliable against substitutions.

Because we all want some measure of protection against fraud it is easy to not look at the whole picture. Consider it.

Maybe I should have called it common substitutions. Actually I did a couple of sentences later.

There are probably a dozen other common substitutions that UGLs have practiced for years with virtually no chance of getting caught. Not anymore, though. Labmax makes substitutions very risky for UGLs.

For example, when labmax first came out there was no color test for primo because virtually every sample they received contained test p.

 

[Docd187123]

From their website this is all I could find to support their claim that Labmax is used by various countries for customs and LE.

The steroids identification test kit is used by customs and law enforcements in various countries. Our products are also approved to be purchased by United Nations for various agencies as a tool to detect controlled substances. It works the same way like preliminary colorimetric test for detection of drugs. Although colorimetric tests are not new, there was never anything reliable to test for presence of steroids before. Follow the links on the bottom of this page to see examples and full documentation of various tests.

The tests have been approved by State of Virginia and many others. You will find on the bottom of the page mentioned ampoules Steroid Test B
http://www.dfs.virginia.gov/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Approved-List-of-Field-Test-Kits-12-3-12.pdf.

I'm sorry but, and I quote, "You will find on the bottom of the page mentioned ampoules Steroid Test B" does not assure me in any way, shape, or form that labmax is used by the State of Virginia. They also show nothing in regards to any other US agency or any other country. Also the English is pretty bad which you'd think a Canadian company that has customs and LE agencies as their customers would make a better attempt at using good English......

It reads like a high schooler wrote the text for the Labmax website.