OdieM is Meso's Biggest Scam (A corollary to the GG witch hunt)

@CensoredBoardsSuck suggested that maybe we should be a little more accepting of an honest review even if it is favorable. There is a place for a positive review, and it does not have to cross the fan boy line. Shit, I was ready to say something nice about the indian grade boner pills i got from naps, but then they went and leaked all that data

I agree but a positive review is not suggesting that an apple is equal to an orange and that the guy selling orange has great products based on don't know what. Especially when we are talking about pct and AI.

if someone suggest bunk gear, worse can happen is that you wasted money.

You fuck up with pct you are in for a bad surprise and you fuck up with AI while having a fucked pct you are in for a nice pair of new boobs, like the devika's one just a bit uglier.

Same as a bad review made without any facts should be discarded or inquired in details.
 
Been following both threads from last two days and I think I have to chime in too as you people are talking about me.
I don't mind to be talk but when it comes to my reputation I'm sensitive just like others.
First of all I'll talk about Odiem, as all this thread is about him. He's a stand up and I respect him like a bro. Haven't talk to him lately. But that guy is still a diamond to me. Have/had forwarded many people from on this very board. Now the question is does he had any intentions to get paid out or getting free stuff or you can think worse. The answer is STEAL NO. He never asked any favours, not even a discount.
I don't know the deal but, how could a man who never ask for any free shit by sending people over to me is bad. I don't know man what you people all about.
He was your family member here, don't know if you consider MESO your family or not but on what board I'm on I treat all like my brothers. And as far as I think you all on Tren, don't even think about what you saying and fighting on some dumb stuff. Everyone make mistakes, does that mean you bash the someone who been with you from years. But who am lecturing you all. All of you are well grown people.

Now comes to me.
First thing first, I'm not here to sell anything.
Jokes a part why I'm comparing to apples and oranges lolll. If you still want to I prefer Oranges. Lmao
How European Pharma companies are better or different than Indian Pharma companies. MSD, Schering, Bayer, Novartis, German Remidics, Cipla, SUN, Cadila, Pfizer, Dr. Reddy are avalible on both worlds. Am I right? May be not all of them.
But how you say this product is made in USA or EU or I don't know in Kuwait, that's why it's a better product than Indian products. Have you ever been in the factory where all the stuff made. How you know the raws they use are not from other side of the world. May be the raws produced in India and manufacturers the end product in EU. Come on guys...
May be the potency written on the blister pack is different in both worlds but no other difference can be found.
Let me tell you something an inside story, Schering ties up with Cadila here which have an another decision name German Remidics and under the same division the old Testoviron Test E 250mg/ml made. I'll not mention names. But top 10 of world's Ifbb using the same product and they are pleased.
I never mind if someone comes up and do the bloods, I'll be pleased too. You want it, buy it and get the stuff done.
Now I comes to generics, yes boner pills and other daily used items are coming in both decisions. Ethical - Pharma grade and Generics. People who using the daily necessity items like aspirin, combiflame, I brufin prefer generics coz they are cheap but you never know if the potency is 100% correct but it doesn't mean it's bunk.
Now generics are comes in two decisions, ones are local facility makers and others are reputable companies like German Remidics, Micro, Cipla. (mind that these companies comes in both Pharma and Generics)
I can get you 50mg Pfizer Original Pharma Viagra which comes in $10 approx one tab and I can get you $.65 German Remidics 50mg Red tab Vigora - Generic. No matter how experience you are you don't have a stand to address Pfizer is better than a Generic.
The conclusion is don't get fooled that Indian stuff is not good as EU products. If you want to you can do bloods on my stuff any time.

I'm not new here, if I'm not active as other doesn't mean I'm not lurking. I have been invited many times to give my services to board members. That's been said that i'm a private source but If I want to I can hope on right now and I know plenty of members who know me from those past Good Evo days will get a stand for me too.
But I'm afraid from arguing people again and again. As I said people do mistakes and I'm not different from others. I have made some mistakes too.
But it seems like you have to have perfect to get fit on this board. If you ever make a little mistake you been bashed hard, your name will spoiled and at last get a ban.

I know that some people might not agree with me on Odiem part on Pharma Generic stuff but every coin has two faces.
Please confident yourself with my words as I'm not here to bash any member or any reputable Vendors. It's just my believe to provide best of best service and not BS, you don't have to agree with me on this. After all its all Internet.
Hoping everyone have a great weekend a head

Regards
Kai
 
Been following both threads from last two days and I think I have to chime in too as you people are talking about me.
I don't mind to be talk but when it comes to my reputation I'm sensitive just like others.
First of all I'll talk about Odiem, as all this thread is about him. He's a stand up and I respect him like a bro. Haven't talk to him lately. But that guy is still a diamond to me. Have/had forwarded many people from on this very board. Now the question is does he had any intentions to get paid out or getting free stuff or you can think worse. The answer is STEAL NO. He never asked any favours, not even a discount.
I don't know the deal but, how could a man who never ask for any free shit by sending people over to me is bad. I don't know man what you people all about.
He was your family member here, don't know if you consider MESO your family or not but on what board I'm on I treat all like my brothers. And as far as I think you all on Tren, don't even think about what you saying and fighting on some dumb stuff. Everyone make mistakes, does that mean you bash the someone who been with you from years. But who am lecturing you all. All of you are well grown people.

Now comes to me.
First thing first, I'm not here to sell anything.
Jokes a part why I'm comparing to apples and oranges lolll. If you still want to I prefer Oranges. Lmao
How European Pharma companies are better or different than Indian Pharma companies. MSD, Schering, Bayer, Novartis, German Remidics, Cipla, SUN, Cadila, Pfizer, Dr. Reddy are avalible on both worlds. Am I right? May be not all of them.
But how you say this product is made in USA or EU or I don't know in Kuwait, that's why it's a better product than Indian products. Have you ever been in the factory where all the stuff made. How you know the raws they use are not from other side of the world. May be the raws produced in India and manufacturers the end product in EU. Come on guys...
May be the potency written on the blister pack is different in both worlds but no other difference can be found.
Let me tell you something an inside story, Schering ties up with Cadila here which have an another decision name German Remidics and under the same division the old Testoviron Test E 250mg/ml made. I'll not mention names. But top 10 of world's Ifbb using the same product and they are pleased.
I never mind if someone comes up and do the bloods, I'll be pleased too. You want it, buy it and get the stuff done.
Now I comes to generics, yes boner pills and other daily used items are coming in both decisions. Ethical - Pharma grade and Generics. People who using the daily necessity items like aspirin, combiflame, I brufin prefer generics coz they are cheap but you never know if the potency is 100% correct but it doesn't mean it's bunk.
Now generics are comes in two decisions, ones are local facility makers and others are reputable companies like German Remidics, Micro, Cipla. (mind that these companies comes in both Pharma and Generics)
I can get you 50mg Pfizer Original Pharma Viagra which comes in $10 approx one tab and I can get you $.65 German Remidics 50mg Red tab Vigora - Generic. No matter how experience you are you don't have a stand to address Pfizer is better than a Generic.
The conclusion is don't get fooled that Indian stuff is not good as EU products. If you want to you can do bloods on my stuff any time.

I'm not new here, if I'm not active as other doesn't mean I'm not lurking. I have been invited many times to give my services to board members. That's been said that i'm a private source but If I want to I can hope on right now and I know plenty of members who know me from those past Good Evo days will get a stand for me too.
But I'm afraid from arguing people again and again. As I said people do mistakes and I'm not different from others. I have made some mistakes too.
But it seems like you have to have perfect to get fit on this board. If you ever make a little mistake you been bashed hard, your name will spoiled and at last get a ban.

I know that some people might not agree with me on Odiem part on Pharma Generic stuff but every coin has two faces.
Please confident yourself with my words as I'm not here to bash any member or any reputable Vendors. It's just my believe to provide best of best service and not BS, you don't have to agree with me on this. After all its all Internet.
Hoping everyone have a great weekend a head

Regards
Kai
Have no dog in this fight and no interest in the topic of products. But when it comes to the topic of OdieM I completely disagree with your view. Threats towards females in any shape or form. Makes him scum in my eyes. No excuses!
 
Kai i have said many Times that You have been a stand up guy for my experience and the one of other friends that have used you.

Genetics are available in Europe or USA as well and they are made by pharmaceutical company approved by both authority (eu - USA).

What I believe is not the same are the pharmaceutical standard of India compared to eu-USA.

It doesn't matter where the raw come from, it's the quality control that's superior in any pharmaceutical company that operate under eu-USA laws compared to one in India.

I know you never pushed your products saying they are equal to any eu-USA products or trying to mislead ppl.

My problem was towards GG not towards you.

Just to be clear :)
 
Have no dog in this fight and no interest in the topic of products. But when it comes to the topic of OdieM I completely disagree with your view. Threats towards females in any shape or form. Makes him scum in my eyes. No excuses!

Same here.
I'm fairly new here and don't know this OdieM fellow (and don't feel like reading the huge thread about it), but this @GearGodess person seems really down to earth and her comments are always helpful. It's a shame if she was attacked.

As for this thread, I'm over here like:

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Been following both threads from last two days and I think I have to chime in too as you people are talking about me.
I don't mind to be talk but when it comes to my reputation I'm sensitive just like others.
First of all I'll talk about Odiem, as all this thread is about him. He's a stand up and I respect him like a bro. Haven't talk to him lately. But that guy is still a diamond to me. Have/had forwarded many people from on this very board. Now the question is does he had any intentions to get paid out or getting free stuff or you can think worse. The answer is STEAL NO. He never asked any favours, not even a discount.
I don't know the deal but, how could a man who never ask for any free shit by sending people over to me is bad. I don't know man what you people all about.
He was your family member here, don't know if you consider MESO your family or not but on what board I'm on I treat all like my brothers. And as far as I think you all on Tren, don't even think about what you saying and fighting on some dumb stuff. Everyone make mistakes, does that mean you bash the someone who been with you from years. But who am lecturing you all. All of you are well grown people.

Now comes to me.
First thing first, I'm not here to sell anything.
Jokes a part why I'm comparing to apples and oranges lolll. If you still want to I prefer Oranges. Lmao
How European Pharma companies are better or different than Indian Pharma companies. MSD, Schering, Bayer, Novartis, German Remidics, Cipla, SUN, Cadila, Pfizer, Dr. Reddy are avalible on both worlds. Am I right? May be not all of them.
But how you say this product is made in USA or EU or I don't know in Kuwait, that's why it's a better product than Indian products. Have you ever been in the factory where all the stuff made. How you know the raws they use are not from other side of the world. May be the raws produced in India and manufacturers the end product in EU. Come on guys...
May be the potency written on the blister pack is different in both worlds but no other difference can be found.
Let me tell you something an inside story, Schering ties up with Cadila here which have an another decision name German Remidics and under the same division the old Testoviron Test E 250mg/ml made. I'll not mention names. But top 10 of world's Ifbb using the same product and they are pleased.
I never mind if someone comes up and do the bloods, I'll be pleased too. You want it, buy it and get the stuff done.
Now I comes to generics, yes boner pills and other daily used items are coming in both decisions. Ethical - Pharma grade and Generics. People who using the daily necessity items like aspirin, combiflame, I brufin prefer generics coz they are cheap but you never know if the potency is 100% correct but it doesn't mean it's bunk.
Now generics are comes in two decisions, ones are local facility makers and others are reputable companies like German Remidics, Micro, Cipla. (mind that these companies comes in both Pharma and Generics)
I can get you 50mg Pfizer Original Pharma Viagra which comes in $10 approx one tab and I can get you $.65 German Remidics 50mg Red tab Vigora - Generic. No matter how experience you are you don't have a stand to address Pfizer is better than a Generic.
The conclusion is don't get fooled that Indian stuff is not good as EU products. If you want to you can do bloods on my stuff any time.

I'm not new here, if I'm not active as other doesn't mean I'm not lurking. I have been invited many times to give my services to board members. That's been said that i'm a private source but If I want to I can hope on right now and I know plenty of members who know me from those past Good Evo days will get a stand for me too.
But I'm afraid from arguing people again and again. As I said people do mistakes and I'm not different from others. I have made some mistakes too.
But it seems like you have to have perfect to get fit on this board. If you ever make a little mistake you been bashed hard, your name will spoiled and at last get a ban.

I know that some people might not agree with me on Odiem part on Pharma Generic stuff but every coin has two faces.
Please confident yourself with my words as I'm not here to bash any member or any reputable Vendors. It's just my believe to provide best of best service and not BS, you don't have to agree with me on this. After all its all Internet.
Hoping everyone have a great weekend a head

Regards
Kai

Kai - just a bit of advice - drop the support for Odie, immediately, until you have looked into what he was, and what he ended up being here! You are speaking out of ignorance, relative to the garbage he pulled here, man.

He might have been nice to you? Well of course he was - he was sending you money, and relying on you to send him legit products, and entrusting you with his personal information.

I already posted about you above, offering mostly complimentary things about you. But I am telling you that you look like a fool showing up here defending Odie, given what he did here.
 
Narcissism much?

If there are members with issues re p'com gear (and they have been here more than a minute) then they know they and should chime right in. After stretch, Ricky, Astro, Mike strong, hammer, and all the other fucktards I don't care to recall who screwed over/ripped off/poisoned members, no source gets a pass on complaints.

If you want to assume the role of confidant and spokeswoman for the "people wanting to say a lot more," how about you encourage this steadily growing collection of angst-filled members who fear for their digital virtue to speak up and hand Frank his ass? That's what we do here. If a source fucks up, you post your complaint, it is assessed for credibility by the members, and if valid, we pursue the source with all the enthusiasm of a dog with three dicks in a room full of legs.

I'm pretty sure your intentions are not bad, I'll hesitate at saying they are good, because your inability to get out of your own way and your consistent pursuit of drama screams "narcissist." Chill, sister. When meso decides to elect a mayor you can throw your hat in the ring. I'm sure you'll win by a landslide. Until then, let it play out.

Luca's vial is crashed. I have several vials of p'com NPP that have crashed. They did not crystallize in the circular pattern seen in luca's vial, but that doesn't mean it's bacterial contamination. The crystallization pattern can vary widely. Basic chemistry. My vials, like Luca's, go clear on heating. Go figure. Bacterial contamination doesn't magically disappear and reappear with heat.

Somebody else sees the issue with bacteria coming and going with heat!!!! Ch**se and rice that right there is a damned giveaway. Thank you LS
 
Somebody else sees the issue with bacteria coming and going with heat!!!! Ch**se and rice that right there is a damned giveaway. Thank you LS

It was already brought to the general attention many times in luca's thread but many ppl kept ranting about being contamination of bacteria and ignored it completely.

Oh by the way losing BF by the day and eating whatever I want just looking at total calories :) looks like low carb low fat low whatever or high whatever doesn't change much if you are in a deficit and protein are kept high. Got compliments today in how fast I'm getting lean and vascular.
 
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