How do you know the actual product is expired?
what does "expired" mean to you?
Check out this information found on the US NIH.gov site:
Drug expiry debate: the myth and the reality
and, see the article I shared in the earlier post (quoted below) from Harvard Medical School:
So please help me understand what it is you are claiming as the alleged problem with the Basicstero amps (completely sealed glass) we were discussing?
Are you claiming these products are not sterile?
Are you claiming there is some toxicity?
Are you claiming there is notable degradation?
If so, please show me the analysis results and real data that back your claim.
If you’re not making these claims and/or do not have any data support such claims, then I do not see what issue with the product is even in question.
Do you think the product suddenly went from 100% good one day, then the clock stuck midnight the next day and it suddenly went bad?
Why is it that when sources print the purity/concentration on their products it does not count as absolute unwavering proof (i understand, because they can print anything), but on the same label the date means so much?
As long as these products are stored properly, the contents are good for a long time past any printed date.
I respect you may choose to do or not do whatever you would like, but, assuming the items are stored correctly, discarding these amps because of some date on a label is a waste of a good product.
I agree with you here and if I had any ability or authority to set policy, I would simply have an accurate manufacture date printed but NOT print an arbitrary "expiration date."
I know smaller lab simply print up new labels (a dishonest practice but common) when less popular items have not moved for a while.
Larger labs have too large of batches for this to be practical or economical; also, I believe Pharmacom has more integrity and will simply say what they have and know.
Since there is no known expiration dates, labs, all labs, should stop the marketing practice and simply include the genuine manufacture date of when the batch was sealed.
Obviously, no source knows the manufacture date of the ingredients since those come from bulk chemical suppliers -- so there is no way to actually know the age (for purposed such as predicting degradation) of active agents; also, the ingredients may sit with the source or supplier for a long time before being used to produce a product batch.
but at least the source does know when they actually added the contents into and vile or amp and sealed it.
I think the best, and only genuine/accurate info, any source may provide is the known date when the source took the last steps and put the date of either when the ingredients were mixed or the date they sealed the finished product.