I am anxious to see the response though from Darius on that thread
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nfdeilvs
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I'm watching every thread talking about this
Bro this is not serious. I can write whatever I want. First of all, probably I do understand something wrong, but
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http://www.labmax.ca/products.php?cat=1Even if there is, where do we know that you performed it correctly? In the test description for anavar you can see the following:
The color has to be observed after 15 minutes, later the colors will fade out, get darker making it impossible to interpret. If it is 10 mg tablet then 1/8 is enough, about 1 mg. The test was calibrated to detect small amounts, adding more will affect test results. The timing and the amount of powder is important.
So, I think this info is actual for all tests. Where do we know from that you used the right amount and right time? Also how we can be sure that you used exactly our gear?
And absolutely right, the carrier oil can significantly impact the results!
So what I read here is absolutely not serious. We will accept and consider claims only if real test results (chromotograph) are performed and photos of the tested products / results are published here with the whole procedure. As I said before we can ship any drug to the address of a lab if it will test it. If you don`t trust, you can place an order in our store anonymously, perform the test and publish here the results. Independent on the results I will refund your money for your order after the test is done and results are published!
All other test except chromotographic / spectral analysis are just not serious. To try to find out an active agent based only on the color of some unknown substance in the test, which at that change the color within several minutes to another one or depends on the amount of the gear, is absolutely not fair.
I repeat again, we have absolutely nothing against tests of our gear, but do the proper and fair tests and not this bullshit. I can tell as well if you give our prima for a cycle to a women you will not see any virilization, etc. However, this proves actually not a lot. Only spectral analysis is fair.
Ozzy619
Well-known Member
I agree that labmax is not the ideal or best way to test. But are you going to reimburse us to have these "real" tests done? Sounds like we would be the ones doing you a favor.
I agree sadly with basicstero.
Labmax is not that easy to use and not really accurate. Primo test Is on of the hardest to do with lab max if I remember correctly.
We have plenty of guys here that have access to mass spec test. Please let's send the vial to them and test it.
Was the gear bought from basic/darius or other official reseller? Was the code on the gear verified on the website?
I mean the best test would be to buy anonymously a primo vial and test it, because then the manufacturer can't deny any results and has to suck it up if the test results are bad.
Labmax is not that easy to use and not really accurate. Primo test Is on of the hardest to do with lab max if I remember correctly.
We have plenty of guys here that have access to mass spec test. Please let's send the vial to them and test it.
Was the gear bought from basic/darius or other official reseller? Was the code on the gear verified on the website?
I mean the best test would be to buy anonymously a primo vial and test it, because then the manufacturer can't deny any results and has to suck it up if the test results are bad.
Probably it sounds like this because of my bad english. I just wanted to say that we reimburse the order price (after the test is done) to the person who bought the items anonimously. As for expenses for the test itself, sorry guys, we will not pay for it. You can gather the money and perform it in this case the amount for everyone will be not high.
Nitrobuste
Member
The most important point is, we trust labmax tests done by well known members of meso. And now you have a serious problem, because whenever someone googles your shop in the future, they will see, that we identified your products as fake.
You remember what i said about your promo some days ago ? Everything happened exactly as i said...
Ge-tm
granabolic
And now pharmacom....
Im out guys. My search for a legit source in the internet ends right here.
You remember what i said about your promo some days ago ? Everything happened exactly as i said...
Ge-tm
granabolic
And now pharmacom....
Im out guys. My search for a legit source in the internet ends right here.
Guys but this is really not seriously, this tests are very very inaccurate and very lot of factors influence them. Nobody has seen, how many gear he put into the amp, how long he waited, I have not even seen this report yet. Could you please provide me the link to it.
I even do not see in the labmax store the kit to identify prima and equipoise... Where is it?
I will not even consider these results. I provided here spectrometric anylysis results and they were proper. SO, Nitrust, if you don`t trust us, please do not buy from us anymore, it`s your choice. Try to find someone better. We get to our mail almost daily messages that our gear is empty and people don`t feel stronger, etc. People always blame us and absolutely do not think that the reason is in all cases in their nutrition plan, cycle, work-out plan, sleep, etc. We have seen so many claims where people blamed us that they do not have any mass raising on our tests and do not feel it and wanted to get they money back. But as soon as we asked to make a blood work and they did it, results were by times higher as references. So, this is a people nature to blame everyone but not themselves... This is already a long time company policy, we do not consider any claims without fair and proper test results. Too many people want to get free gear and also lot of Pharmacom competitors, which lot of times tried to ruin our reputation by publishing fake and unproperly done test results. We no more consider such claims. The fact that we are already 10 years in the market and developing every year and more and more people and resellers order our gear worldwide let us tell that our gear is absolutely in proper order. In other case there would be lot of claims and proofs that our gear is fake. I have not seen any one. Any one really properly performed and documented test yet. Only unfounded words and claims without evidences. Please buy our gear, perform a real lab test, make photos of our product, butch number, check codes (for vials), describe the preparation process, make details photos of each step so that we would see that this is really our gear and publish the report here. In this case we will consider your results and undertake full responsibility if something is empty or some other agent as the manifested one has been used or etc... But this is just impossible that`s why I absolutely don`t worry about the results of a real properly performed test. All these tests with colors is nothing. And does not matter who perform it, trusted meso members or not, it absolutely does not change the inaccuracy of this testing method.
ironwill1951
New Member
i think you are wrong the responsibility to prove a product is good is up to the manufacturer not the consumer , and the tests you want us to perform are either unavailable or to expensive to do everytime you make an order .
so you might as well say you dont stand behind your products and if we get bad gear we are just shit out of luck....
so you might as well say you dont stand behind your products and if we get bad gear we are just shit out of luck....
Understand that we are using LM testing to determine whether your products are reliably pure and worth buying. When they fail the tests you lose customers. It's really that simple.
Notits
Well-known Member
Determining reliable purity with lab max? Really?
No, not reliable purity, reliably pure. In effect showing it doesn't contain a bunch of other crap that spoils the test.
pharmacon does have a good point...No real tests were done that showed 100% anything was fake ..Everyone's excuse is that the proper tests are too expensive and unwilling to foot the bill... pharmacon tests they have nobody will believe anyhow so basically what he posted above about all this is all you can expect from them...AS many say around here if you can't accept that then move along.....And no never used any of their products......
johnnyrotten94
New Member
Right, but there are a lot of variables. And it's difficult to determine if the test was performed correctly...IMO
Well crap so the eq might be in question here??
Err, no. They are unavailable.
Man, I agree. And I already provided all possible evidences here, spectrometry results of lot of our products, incl raw materials and final products. I inquired info about the purity of our HGH and explained what purity it has. I made photos of our chromotographs even with the paper - special for MESO members, I published here a video of our production line. Within roughly 10 days I expect to get another video of the other equipment in our production facility. I provided several times all possible proves I only could provide. They are absolutely enough. We performed real proper tests and I published results here. You don`t trust them and decided that some bullshit with color fluids is more reliable as our tests made on equipment worth dozens of thousands dollars. But if you do not trust them, sorry, this is already not our guilt. You say we shall undertake responsibility and take care of this test, I consider this as we shall pay for this tests. I am 1000000% sure if we do this, somebody will say, test results are fake because they have been sponsored by us!
There are and there will be always people unsatisfied with something. If you don`t trust out results, perform your independent proper tests but at your own expense. No one manufacturer here or on other boards provided as many proofs as we did! Have you seen our production video? Do you really think we would buy all this equipment to produce empty or fake products? Where is the sense? If our products were empty or fake, etc. it would be clear a long time ago. We work already 10 years! And our customer database only increases every month! I have nothing to add here.
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Ok..fair enough.. A 100% reliable test aren't available to show concrete evidence that things are fake. So we use unreliable tests to prove concrete evidence... Basically that's admitting you have no concrete evidence....
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