Don’t act like drostalone is a saint steroid it irritates prostate too much.
It also hits lipids especially HDL can cause some mineral imbalance especially at the dosages you’re stating.
Can give low e2 sides and can make estro management a pain in the ass.
With high e2 (without symptoms due to mast) and high DHT guess what hit the prostate gonna take.
I won’t even mention the balding issue as this is not a valid side effect for me.
I know for a fact that I would grow better on 200 testosterone 400 nandrolone rather than 200 test 1000 mast (I wouldn’t be able to piss let alone make gains).
And in fact with 200 test 400 nand I would have much less strain on my body due to total anabolic load and androgenic load.
HDL is absolutely irrelevant and is not linked to cardiovascular events based on current medical evidence.
Adequate LDL and triglycerides are crucial.
Prostate problems are caused by estradiol and prolactin. Not just through DHT.
When will it finally be understood that Drostanolone and Primobolan are less androgenic than Proviron and 5a reduced testosterone?
Including alopecia...
And by the way, you will go bald in any case if you are receptive to it.
Furthermore, I have very serious doubts that anyone gains more muscle on Nandrolone. I suspect that users are extremely deceived by their fat and water gains.
Personally, nandrolone is far too toxic to cells. It has been found to cause lasting damage to cell membranes. Attacks the penile tissue and causes brain damage.
On top of that, sooner or later I'll get bad skin and ED.
In my opinion, Test and Nandrolone Cycles are just clumsy. After all, it's not just about muscle gains but about the whole body and its functions.
But everyone is different. And if you say that nandrolone is better for you, then it is.
I also think 200 test for 1000 Drosta is an extremely unfavorable ratio. 700 Test and 1000 Drosta works great for me. (for me - it is not an advice)
My blood count is good, my E2 is slightly increased, I don't have any joint problems and my erection, libido and mood are on top.
And it’s fucking obvious you don’t grow the same on masteron primo vs test nand
If that was the case the bread n butter growing stack would be mast primo test and not test dbol deca.
Yeah we maybe didn’t have the science back then but it’s fucking obvious to the naked eye that you don’t grow the same on DHT’s vs the heavy hitters , and I’m not talking about water retention (but even water retention it’s secondary “extra” that would push the growth a little tad further).
As already said, that is not the case.
Unfortunately, your statements are very dusty and not up to date. Just Bro Science.
The stacks you mentioned are predestined to have to deal with aromatase inhibitors and caber. Is that so great?
Severe water retention, as is the case for most people with this cycle design, is very unfavorable for blood pressure and ultimately for the kidneys.
The good old bodybuilders from days gone by... most of them have kidney problems. Is it worth it? Nope.
I follow the victor black approach as well, but I’m curious where he got this from? Afaik there are no clinical trials, it would appear that he just guessed? Or ran his own trials that couldn’t have been controlled properly. This is the one part of his teaching that really doesn’t make sense as I’ve never seen this demonstrated in an actual clinical trial.
Him and John Jewett claim they all build muscle at “relatively the same rate on a mf per mg basis” but what are these rates?
There was actually a paper about it. But the fact that I'm just mentioning this and currently don't have a source for it is hot air... I'm trying to find it.
But at the end of the day, the testosterone derivatives all have the same chemical structure. A few modifications change certain properties but not the stimulation of the androgen receptor.
In addition, it is known that the common DHT derivatives are insensitive to the 3a HSD and are therefore equally potent for hypertrophy.
Talk is cheap... I'll see what I can find.
