Primobolan - underrated for muscle gain?

[Jaxino]

Interesting. I heard the libido issues with EQ are from it raising E1? I take plenty of AI though and the low libido persists with EQ...

Go test your E2, E1 in men body does nothing....

If EQ works for you, it lower E2 more than Primo.

On 1500 Test 1000 Primo had 160pg/ml E2 (no libido issues)
On 1500 Test 1200 EQ had 28pg/ml E2 (not perfect libido)

 

[Eddie.]

Go test your E2, E1 in men body does nothing....

If EQ works for you, it lower E2 more than Primo.

On 1500 Test 1000 Primo had 160pg/ml E2 (no libido issues)
On 1500 Test 1200 EQ had 28pg/ml E2 (not perfect libido)

Great to know that! I had the impression that if one compound suppresses your e2 then the other one would behave the same. Primo lowers mine a lot and now i'm about to start EQ. I just don't have the ability to run a high sensitivity e2 test for EQ and most probably i'll have to go by feels..

 

[clayface91]

If you have libido issues with boldenone you may have them with primo too (I know I do). 200mg mast takes care of that with primo as well for me though

Have you found that if you increase the dose of primo that you also have to increase the mast? Or is 200 mast sufficient at any dosage of primo?

 

[Enzo1a]

Tried it but was limited to 700mg a week(100mg per day was the max dose I could tolerate the PIP).
I think it was shit for building muscle, same as masteron. Trying EQ now, but might I think I’m camp “test is best” just run test as high as possible and dose AI and nolva as needed

 

[sneak007]

Go test your E2, E1 in men body does nothing....

If EQ works for you, it lower E2 more than Primo.

On 1500 Test 1000 Primo had 160pg/ml E2 (no libido issues)
On 1500 Test 1200 EQ had 28pg/ml E2 (not perfect libido)

Oh wow. I'm going next week to get tested but I already paid for the regular test and not the ultra sensitive one

 

[Jaxino]

@Eddie
@sneak007


I used ECLIA mate, so don't worry. Just don't run Tren when you do ECLIA blood tests.

 

[Eddie.]

@Eddie
@sneak007


I used ECLIA mate, so don't worry. Just don't run Tren when you do ECLIA blood tests.

I ve read the non sensitive test might show wrong e2, most possibly higher than it actually is. We'll see..i'm gonna do eclia before cycle and 4-5 weeks in and take it from there.

 

[effswithtren]

I use bold cypionate for this reason. Cypionate is close enough to enanthate that it works pretty well... such that you don't need to adjust the doses mid-cycle like you would when EQ blood levels finally peak. However boldenone kills my libido so I need a little 200mg drostanolone in there too to get it normal. Can be kinda hit or miss for that reason.

Yeah my little project actually worked, it was just a pain in the ass. Big frontloads, long tapers of test on the back end, fucktons of basically wasted syringe space. Were I to do it again, doing bold cyp would be the better way to do it, save for it being lower mg/ml. I will say though, the project worked. I convert e2 like a bitch, and my bloodwork had great e2 throughout despite some very high test usage that’d have me sprouting bitch tits in a week otherwise.

 

[buzzingonaas]

Have you found that if you increase the dose of primo that you also have to increase the mast? Or is 200 mast sufficient at any dosage of primo?

I haven’t toyed around with that actually. This is the first time i’ve ran mast with my primo and it’s making a huge difference. 800ish test, 400 primo, 200 mast