Pristine Anabolics Intro

[jackmeoff1]

Depends on the person, I pulled bloods with 3700 and 145 with no AI. No real side effects, mood changes or sexual issues.

I agree with this. For me whenever my test is high AF and my estrogen is in range I feel like complete ass. I think there is something about balance. With test levels over 5k I don't think estrogen over 100 is too alarming as long as you aren't getting gyno.

Back in the 90's guys used to run nolva on cycle simply to prevent estrogen from binding to breast receptor. AI's are overly used in my opinion. I blame it on trt clinics. They are prescribing crazy AI doses with like 150 mg per week. Then guys on the forums are complaining of no libido and think trt isn't working.

 

[88general88]

View attachment 115499 t400 about 6 weeks in 800mg a week, about 42 hrs after pin. Also on anadrol-from this source, accutane, and nolva from another.

Doesn’t really look like the nolva is working bro. Or you Might wanna up your dose, I understand that because your test is so high that e2 tends to correlate with that number, still extremely high. I hear what a couple other guys have said, aromasin would be your best friend for sure. Then if you get into a probably add in the nolva. But I guess in reality it really comes down to how are you feeling. If you are constantly feeling lethargic it’s a good sign that you need to work on getting that e2 lower

 

[T-Bagger]

Doesn’t really look like the nolva is working bro. Or you Might wanna up your dose, I understand that because your test is so high that e2 tends to correlate with that number, still extremely high. I hear what a couple other guys have said, aromasin may be your best friend for your situation, or get rid of the nolva and try ralox.

I’d say before upping the AI, see how you feel. Like @mp46 and @jackmeoff1 said - it’s about balance. As long as he isn’t having gyno symptoms, no need to up it.

 

[88general88]

I’d say before upping the AI, see how you feel. Like @mp46 and @jackmeoff1 said - it’s about balance. As long as he isn’t having gyno symptoms, no need to up it.

Wise words, hence the reason for my edit

 

[Mdubbs]

I agree with this. For me whenever my test is high AF and my estrogen is in range I feel like complete ass. I think there is something about balance. With test levels over 5k I don't think estrogen over 100 is too alarming as long as you aren't getting gyno.

Back in the 90's guys used to run nolva on cycle simply to prevent estrogen from binding to breast receptor. AI's are overly used in my opinion. I blame it on trt clinics. They are prescribing crazy AI doses with like 150 mg per week. Then guys on the forums are complaining of no libido and think trt isn't working.

Depends on the person, I pulled bloods with 3700 and 145 with no AI. No real side effects, mood changes or sexual issues.

I’d say before upping the AI, see how you feel. Like @mp46 and @jackmeoff1 said - it’s about balance. As long as he isn’t having gyno symptoms, no need to up it.

At first glance my concern for OP was he was trying to combat his high estro with the nolva and it wasn't working.Y'all are right though estro is a crazy thing and different for everyone. My first question should've been how hes feeling. I know for me I'd be rocking some nice DD's [emoji57].

 

[Trenity]

View attachment 115499 t400 about 6 weeks in 800mg a week, about 42 hrs after pin. Also on anadrol-from this source, accutane, and nolva from another.

Really appreciate you getting bloods pulled. Hit me up for your $150 credit whenever you're ready. I do have asin and adex on hand if you feel like you need to knock that E2 number down a bit.

 

[MisterSuperGod]

Doesn’t really look like the nolva is working bro. Or you Might wanna up your dose, I understand that because your test is so high that e2 tends to correlate with that number, still extremely high. I hear what a couple other guys have said, aromasin would be your best friend for sure. Then if you get into a probably add in the nolva. But I guess in reality it really comes down to how are you feeling. If you are constantly feeling lethargic it’s a good sign that you need to work on getting that e2 lower

He isn't complaining of gyno symptoms with that E2 level, therefore i would say the Nolva is doing the job it's supposed to.

 

[T-Bagger]

I know for me I'd be rocking some nice DD's

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Lol, I bet you’d suck them too

 

[Mdubbs]

Lol, I bet you’d suck them too

Psshhh... I wouldn't leave my house

 

[88general88]

He isn't complaining of gyno symptoms with that E2 level, therefore i would say the Nolva is doing the job it's supposed to.

Yeah my bad I shouldn’t have even said anything

 

[Apopkared]

Anyone tried his DHB ? Love the stuff but it can either be the best or it can cripple you. Wanted to get some more and try a new source. Thanks

 

[Trenity]

I am gonna run the buy 3 get 1 free special from now until Midnight tonight. (Central Time) Good for oils or orals, mix and match, equal or lesser value.

 

[Trenity]

Anyone tried his DHB ? Love the stuff but it can either be the best or it can cripple you. Wanted to get some more and try a new source. Thanks

The current batch (#03) tested at 107.8mg/mL. All reports I've heard say that the PIP is there but pretty minimal. I have not pinned this batch myself yet though.

 

[RicSlayr]

He isn't complaining of gyno symptoms with that E2 level, therefore i would say the Nolva is doing the job it's supposed to.

Correct, was simply posting bloods to contribute to the board and Pristine. Nolva is all I run for most of my cycles and it works fine.

Doesn’t really look like the nolva is working bro. Or you Might wanna up your dose, I understand that because your test is so high that e2 tends to correlate with that number, still extremely high. I hear what a couple other guys have said, aromasin would be your best friend for sure. Then if you get into a probably add in the nolva. But I guess in reality it really comes down to how are you feeling. If you are constantly feeling lethargic it’s a good sign that you need to work on getting that e2 lower

Forsure the nolva is doing it's job like it should and I feel great. From what I understand, Nolva doesn't actually lower e2 so it won't show on these types of blood tests. I run test base often in my cycles so it doesn't make much sense to me to try and dose and AI while doing this. If I ever run a cut cycle (which is hardly ever) I use an AI.

Thanks for the feedback though.

 

[Ambiguous]

Anyone tried his DHB ? Love the stuff but it can either be the best or it can cripple you. Wanted to get some more and try a new source. Thanks

I’m taking it and not getting any pip. I’m mixing shots with a few others things test, mast e, tren h.

 

[88general88]

Correct, was simply posting bloods to contribute to the board and Pristine. Nolva is all I run for most of my cycles and it works fine.



Forsure the nolva is doing it's job like it should and I feel great. From what I understand, Nolva doesn't actually lower e2 so it won't show on these types of blood tests. I run test base often in my cycles so it doesn't make much sense to me to try and dose and AI while doing this. If I ever run a cut cycle (which is hardly ever) I use an AI.

Thanks for the feedback though.

Maybe you can enlighten me since I haven’t plunged into any of the bases/no esters yet. Why would it not make any sense to use and AI if using base??

 

[TX_Hempknight]

Maybe you can enlighten me since I haven’t plunged into any of the bases/no esters yet. Why would it not make any sense to use and AI if using base??

Im not sure, but maybe its the lack of an ester, so maybe theres no conversion??

Not sure, just throwing out possibilities. Would like to know as well.

 

[LvnDead]

Im not sure, but maybe its the lack of an ester, so maybe theres no conversion??

Not sure, just throwing out possibilities. Would like to know as well.

With no esters they are in and out quickly. They spoke levels very high for the short amount of time they are present. So a Test no ester jacks test high, but in return your body naturally will have a spike in estrogen as it’s still test and will aromatize. I believe his point is he’s taking the nolva to just block the aromatization at breast tissue and allowing his e2 to run higher with his test being high. I’ve read and heard different people trying this and using little to no ai and having great results. It makes sense. Let your body do its natural thing as long as e2 isn’t too high and effecting you too negatively. Estrogen is needing to create the most growing environment. Just not too much.

 

[bama_barbell1014]

With no esters they are in and out quickly. They spoke levels very high for the short amount of time they are present. So a Test no ester jacks test high, but in return your body naturally will have a spike in estrogen as it’s still test and will aromatize. I believe his point is he’s taking the nolva to just block the aromatization at breast tissue and allowing his e2 to run higher with his test being high. I’ve read and heard different people trying this and using little to no ai and having great results. It makes sense. Let your body do its natural thing as long as e2 isn’t too high and effecting you too negatively. Estrogen is needing to create the most growing environment. Just not too much.

I wish there were more studies showing any difference in aromatization with different esters. I know that its its thought to be less with shorter esters but ive never seen data on this.

 

[LvnDead]

I wish there were more studies showing any difference in aromatization with different esters. I know that its its thought to be less with shorter esters but ive never seen data on this.

With no esters you undoubtedly will have a spike in conversion simply because the quick spike in test the body naturally will have a spike in E.